Kyiv

[Jojosun]

Well, to be fair I don't go to Amman to meet UA girls, that just happened by accident. And apart from a very cute, almost no English 4am encounter with a UA girl who pulled the local cigarettet out of my mouth, tossed it on the floor and replaced it with a duty free one, I had really no interactions.

I go to Jordan for fun. I buy gifts, I buy groceries (Israelis don't dig on Mt Dew and Cheeseburgers as much as Arabs and Westerners do) and go back to Israel with my booty.

I was agreeing with you, I think his ideas of picking up women in Muslim countries is absolutely terrible. So he had a good run or witnessed one, that's just like, his opinion man.

Hate giving misleading directions.

Golda Meir's street where she was born is 5 Baseyna, Kiev

[Frazer]

Max. USD300, say for 3-4 hours (at least).

Which is not exactly cheap.

Thanks Inso

[DJ FourMoney]

Some of those scammers are very skilled. You get caught either when you are a newbie, or when your are over-confident and you let your guard go down. You seem to think that you are less stupid than those desperate for pussy? Be careful my friend.

Was in Kiev last week and ended up spending my week with a freebie (got lucky!). But even when you're with a freebie, you wonder where she's taking you, so I ended up selecting the restaurants and everything. And I'm not even sure if I would trust her fully next time. We'll see.

Don't get me wrong, it can happen anytime, guard up or down. I'm just saying and you have the key, you're in-control. As I understand its still fairly easy to find freebies in this date and age. 18-24 much harder than 25-35/40, everybody wants the 18-24. There's plenty to choose from and there are not enough Western Men to even talk to all the available women in that age range its just not humanly possible.

Everybody makes mistakes, just some can be easily avoided.

[Jojosun]

Well, to be fair I don't go to Amman to meet UA girls, that just happened by accident. And apart from a very cute, almost no English 4am encounter with a UA girl who pulled the local cigarettet out of my mouth, tossed it on the floor and replaced it with a duty free one, I had really no interactions.

I go to Jordan for fun. I buy gifts, I buy groceries (Israelis don't dig on Mt Dew and Cheeseburgers as much as Arabs and Westerners do) and go back to Israel with my booty.

I was agreeing with you, I think his ideas of picking up women in Muslim countries is absolutely terrible. So he had a good run or witnessed one, that's just like, his opinion man.

I went down memory lane this morning, and it clicked, infact the first woman from Ukraine that I met was Golda Mabovitch.

I was with a group on a School educational holiday to Israel in the late seventies, when we met israel's first woman ex prime minister, known by her married name, Golda Meir.

She was called the(Iron Lady). We thought OMG, she is an ugly Russian Woman.. I think she was also called (The only man in the Government), when she was a minister, but not for her Looks.

There is a monument as a tribute to her memory in the street in Kiev, where she was born, 5 Basiyba st.

Kiev's Daughter, she is called.

I visited the place + I did the caves in Kiev. Culture vulturing during the day & mongering at Night.

[EasyEase]

Dear Mongers,

I am heading to Kiev for the 3rd time in this year, I have visited numerous places like Brazil and Thailand, but my new favorite is Kiev.

Through Mamba I have contact to about 20 beauties all between 18 and 29. Most of them look like killers! I have my Mamba experience and I think I have prepared myself well this time.

Further to that, I am in contact with 2 freebies through Skype. We know each other from previous visits to Kiev and have established some kind of a relation. And then there is always, Avalon and Shooters for fast action.

I haven't been to other places such as Rio and other places you mention here. Sure I will try some of those.

Thanks Hunter Dave for your reports, they inspire me and I start to view the mongers life from a different perspective due to you! As much beautifull pussy in less time and even more less money. I used to pay much much more then I do now and the game is still exciting. It gets boring when you get laid every night because you had the right sum in your wallet.

Report will follow!

I will be in Kiev 21-25/10/2010

Regards,

Easyease

[Ziggym]

Funny that ziggy mentions here that he goes to Amman, jordan to meet UA girls. My first try with a UA born Israeli girl was in a Brothel in Tel Aviv.

And it was there for another first for me with a Moroccan israeli girl.

I know what I would prefer.

Well, to be fair I don't go to Amman to meet UA girls, that just happened by accident. And apart from a very cute, almost no English 4am encounter with a UA girl who pulled the local cigarettet out of my mouth, tossed it on the floor and replaced it with a duty free one, I had really no interactions.

I go to Jordan for fun. I buy gifts, I buy groceries (Israelis don't dig on Mt Dew and Cheeseburgers as much as Arabs and Westerners do) and go back to Israel with my booty.

I was agreeing with you, I think his ideas of picking up women in Muslim countries is absolutely terrible. So he had a good run or witnessed one, that's just like, his opinion man.

[Vostro000]

I guess strange a thing happen while I contact this lady from network site.

I don't know how can I post her photo. I said to her you are too sexy and she send me this back with a phone number. Read it and tell me if you think is true

Greetings, meeting with me costs 100 dollars, in sex I accept all restrictions is not present! Communication with me only through work, to that-that I married + you will ask to phone of doctor Krysko M. Ale. I the ophthalmologist! Only so.come on reception is even better and all we will solve, medical-small town, the Center of surgery of the eye, the second floor. Branch! At a meeting all we will solve and we will agree! Got that?

[HunterDave]

After the past 24 hours I needed some heavy rest. Got a few hours of sleep, but my phone, non-UA, kept ringing. Turned out there was an emergency back home and I would need to cut my trip by a day or two. It was too late to make it out that day so I called and decided to rebook my flights to the next day rather than chance a Saturday departure and not getting back when I needed to return home.

Still being tired from the night before and with this being my last night I decided to SMS a few of the ladies and see if I could maximize my time with a few hotties. I knew tonight was not going to be my 3-some with the 2 blondes from last night (we had that planned that for Friday night). I immediately heard from a 19 year old blonde, 166 cm, nice A+ cups, named Angella (from a previous trip), a college student, who had been hoping to see me earlier that week, but she said she was having her 'red days' or as I would say flying a Baker Flag, down for scheduled monthly maintenance. Angella said she was raring to go and that she could be at my place by 17. 00.

She has this long blonde hair, but keeps it in a bun most of the time, except when we are in bed. I just love to have that long blonde hair all over me. Plus it is great in doggie if you like to gently pull on it like reins while you imagine you are 'Bronco Billy' riding a wild bronc! This little hottie loves to practice her BBBJ skills. When I first met her I worked to get her to swallow all of me but she kept gagging. We kept working and working and finally she could swallow without gagging. We worked long and hard on this again but she was better this time and only partially gagged the first time. She kept at it and clearly learned from our practice to where she gave a very good BBBJ. She gives a decent massage, but I keep her practicing, plus I just enjoy massages. Now this hottie is very snug and very tight and loves missionary and doggie where I can get deep penetration. This is a girl that will do everything I ask her and definitely wants to learn more things in the sack. She said she wanted to spend the night, but the tall 19 year old from the night before has SMS'd me and said she wanted to see me again since I was leaving early. So after 2 rounds I told my little blonde that I needed to get some rest before I left early in the AM and that she would have to leave. We showered together, she worked to get me hard with a BBBJ, she worked hard to get me off and we cleaned up. I gave her some cab fare and some "lunch money, ' walked her to her cab, big hug and kiss and grabbed that nice little tight ass one last time till I return and waved goodbye.

My auburn haired 19 year old showed just after midnight. I wasn't sure if she planned to stay the night but was prepared if she so desired. If not, Plan B was to hit Avalon or Shooters. She was smoking hot in some long heels, tiny little skirt and smelled great. We attacked each other in the elevator up to the 11th floor and did not pass go when we entered the apartment. We immediately proceeded to the bed where I got to slowly undress this hottie. This girl was so horny and hot! She was a real moaner and clearly enjoyed the foreplay (as did I). I kept things nice and slow worked to get her hotter and hotter. She gives a great BBBJ, and loves to swallow all of me. I love sex with this one because she makes all the right noises to spur you on. She expresses her passion violently and loves to get her long fingernails embedded in my back and ass. This one truly appreciates a good deep ride! She shows it and told me that her favorite position is me riding and pinning her to the mattress from behind. Deep penetration is her favorite. She gives a mean massage and loves to slowly run her fingers lightly over my body. She works my cock gently to excite me and get me rock hard. We had two great rounds and she then told me that she wanted to stay the night. My little head took charge and said 'a bird in hand, was better than an unknown Avalon bush' so I said ok. We both got some shuteye, in between a few nice long sessions to include my 'morning wood. ' This girl was a true rider. If she could, I think she would wear me down to a few vertebrae and a pool of spinal fluid. Glad I was using the Gen-V. She finished my morning wood off, showered and left about 9 AM, in time for me to clean up, pack and depart for the airport.

This was a great trip and I will write up a final report on things a mongerer should consider when visiting Paradise!

Hunter

[HunterDave]

When I arrived at Avalon the place was pretty busy and there were quite a few women on the dance floor and in and around the booths. I parked myself at the bar with a drink and scoped the terrain. I did see several hotties and struck up conversations with a few. I thought I would pull one of them and get ready to head back to my place. I did meet up with a former RP hottie. I knew who she was, but I acted like I thought she was just there for some dancing and company. I asked her what she did and she said she likes to just 'relax. ' I said oh, and what does that mean and 'cost'. She said $200 (nice to know that without RP the starting offer is $200 instead of the old RP starting price of $300. I told her that $200 was way too much with all this nice talent present and that I can offer $100. She said not enough. After some more small talk she eventually moved to $150, but I did not move off my $100 offer. So I moved down the bar.

What happened next was unbelievable. Hell I find it hard to believe. It was like Mr. Toads Wild Ride at Disneyworld! A ride that never stops, and one that I did not want to see end!

There was something out on the dance floor while I was talking with the former RP hottie, but I was partially blocked by several other guys. There was this hot little blonde shaking her booty around the dance floor and from my vantage point she was captivating all the men on and around the dance floor. This girl could really dance!. After I left the former RP hottie I looked down the bar and spotted a blonde I had met from a previous trip. I moved down to say Hi and to get a great big hug from her. She looked great (pics to follow) and she told me she was with a friend. While we sat there and talked her friend showed up and to my pleasant surprise it was the hot blonde dancer. This girl was the hottest thing in Avalon bar none. Hell one of the hottest things I had seen in person in all my trips. She could easily be a model, maybe even a super model. It was nice to just be around these hotties and to wish for the best ending. When this hot blonde moved thru the crowd all the guys literally parted to let her pass and to stare at this little hottie, breathtaking to say the least! First negative, she did not speak much English, but seemed to understand a bit more. I decided to work thru it, we talked abit and lots of dancing. The girls loved to have their pictures taken on the floor (I will post soon). These 2 hotties had everyone on the floor stopping just to stare and gawk. And I got to dance and bump with both of them. In between we had several shots of tequila with chasers. I knew I was headed for a crazy night. When the girls went to the powder room the former RP hottie blonde moved in and offered to leave for $100, not even tempted I passed. And then another former RP hottie brunette came by hoping to offer her services. I passed on her as well hoping that my time with the two hot blondes might be more memorable. After a few hours of dancing at Avalon, they suggested we head to Vodka Bar for some karaoke.

The blonde I met in a previous trip told me that her friend (the hotter of the 2 with model looks) liked me and wanted to hang around with me and might want to stay with me. I did have some warning signs and bells go off with this (sounded hard to fathom in just a few hours with them both), but I think the little head was overriding the big head. Since I had had such a good time with the afternoon blonde and 19 year old earlier in the night, plus I had never seen Vodka Bar, I decided to pass on the former RP hotties and see where things with the 2 hot blondes would lead me. We cabbed to Vodka Bar and I am not shitting you, we cut thru the crowd like butter. I had a blonde on each side of me and we walked right thru the entrance. A great entry and sure made you feel like one was on the "A" list.

Hunter Dave to Base Camp. I am beginning my ascent!

Vodka Bar was packed with a tremendous amount of talent for a Wednesday night! I would match the hotties I saw that night with any other night in any other club that I have seen in Kiev. Great eye candy for any hungry mongerer! It was like being Elmer Fudd hunting during (r)wabbit season. You couldn't miss no matter where you pointed your gun. We went up to the karaoke bar/room but it was packed and were told it would be awhile before we could hang there, so we went back down to the main floor and just enjoyed dancing with the many others. Again, very enjoyable 'eye candy" and some great bumping and grinding with many a hottie. It seems you can have even more fun with all the other women, when they see you with the hotties hanging around with you, they seem to be even more friendly to you. I will post a few of the other hotties from that night. Having these 2 blonde hotties dancing around and watching the men around them literally stop to watch them was almost worth the time with these two (yea right!). I can still see those asses in those tight jeans in my mindseye now. Totally mesmerizing! We ordered a bottle of vodka and 6 Red Bulls to keep us occupied and keep the liquor flowing to keep these hotties in the right mood.

We finally made it to the karaoke bar. It was still packed with a small private party with some very hot women. Some mongerers might see a room with several hotties. I see an 'ass farm of hotties, ' waiting for attention and waiting to be separated from the herd. Too bad I had my 2 hands full with the hot blondes. We had a great time singing some songs, neither of them could carry a tune, but I did enjoy seeing them practicing those jaw muscles! We headed back to the main floor, and by this time the hotter (model) blonde was putting her arm around me and hugging, and snuggling up to me. What a hottie! I know all the other guys around us were wondering what the hell I had over them. And I just smiled and enjoyed the company. I knew I was very fortunate, I didn't want to rub their faces in it, I just wanted them to know where mine was hoping to be and was expected to be later than night. Between those nice tight fitting jeans! From what I could see she had a nice ripe little peach of an ass, waiting to be touched, tasted and HAD!

I kept taking fotos and they kept posing. I must have taken more than 70 fotos of these and other hotties. While I thought I might have a shot at a twin killing, and I was prepared for the task, the tall one told me that the hotter blonde wanted to be alone with me. I just smiled, but the taller hottie told me that we would all be together for a threesome on Friday night? Once I knew the hottest one wanted to be alone, we decided to leave, caught a cab and headed to my place.

Hunter Dave to Base Camp, I can see the Summit. And it is spectacular!

She was all over me in the cab, very nice! When we got back to my place this hottie was full of energy. I turned on the Music TV channel and she proceeded to give me a sensual striptease all over the apartment. We danced closely with each other and I got to chase this one all around. She played a hot little game of chase, her dancing sensually even behind the floor length curtains and everytime I caught her I got to take another piece of clothing off of her. Crazy and hot was the price of this ride! Like I said Mr. Toad's wild ride!

She was a very good DFKer! All that starting and stopping was not doing any good to my transmission. But the chase was a hell of a lot of fun. Unwrapping this hottie was pure pleasure. She had a very nice little B rack, very perky! I slowly worked those form fitting jeans off that fine body and proceeded to kiss and suck every inch of that hot body! She wanted to have sex on several pieces of furniture but really loved laying on the leather couch arm with us in missionary. She gave a very nice BBBJ and just loved doggie and when I pinned her to the mattress from behind. Her energy was boundless so I let her ride me cowgirl while I just sat back and enjoyed her ride. She was riding me hard like a mustang and proceeded to try to drain me of all my bodily fluids. We rested after a great 1st round. I convinced her to give me a nice sensual massage to get me hard again. Lying next to this blonde hottie who is trying to get you hard a second time was not too difficult, but I told her she needed to try to spur me on and she worked hard at it. This girl was like the Energizer bunny, she loved to f*** like a rabbit. She gave me another great BBBJ and we had a very nice 2nd round. She was a joy in the sack. This girl knew what to do with morning wood. Clearly it would not go wasted. This girl was packing heat. Any hotter she would have burned my pubes.! We showered together and she left just before noon. I gave her some cab fare, a few hundred grivna ('lunch money') to buy something nice for herself. I walked her to a cab, and gave her a nice farewell kiss. What a night! I was dead tired and crashed hard for several hours.

Hunter

[HunterDave]

Sorry for the delay on the rest of my trip but between an unexpected sad event and then good business news at work, these past few weeks have kept me busy.

Day 6

The rental agency picked me up and took me to another apartment near the new stadium off Shota Rostaveli. Nice new apartment on the 11 floor. Great view and very secure, very modern looking with a bright red leather couch. The first 5 days in paradise had been exceptional. Little did I know that things would pick up and be even better! Now for the 'rest of the story. '

After I got settled I decided it was christening time for the new place. I had wanted, from a few previous trip, to pull this hot little 20 year old blonde. Her name was Camilla, 172 cm, (I will look for her mamba profile later, but do have her digits. I have been blocked again and Mamba help support seems to be down these past few days). She is this tall slender blonde in the water with a blue mesh material in her fotos. Very hot and very nice looking. I called her up and we set up a time for mid afternoon. She was hard to bargain with wanting $100 (+taxi) for a few hours, multiple pops. I finally negotiated $80 with no cab fare. With the success I had been having this was more than I wanted to pay, but having seen her profile fotos I just had to have this one. I had to see this nice eye candy in the flesh! I told her if she showed up and she was not the girl in the fotos then the deal was off and that I would not even give her cab fare to be gone. She assured me it was her. Again, there are some hotties on Mamba you just have to see and just want to have them. Problem is there are so damn many of them! So much 'strange, ' so much to hunt. Not enough time, not enough night time to work one's tactics.

To my surprise Camilla was on time, called from downstairs and waiting outside the apartment building. I opened the door and there was the cutie I expected. She had that thin almost white blonde hair. Very nice. It was the girl in the fotos. She had put on a few kilos but hell she was very slender, almost skinny in the profile fotos. As she entered the building I was able to preview how nice her ass looked in those skin tight jeans. Very nice! Her English was passable, but I was not meeting her for the conversation. And I did plan to keep that gorgeous mouth full anyways. So language was not my intent. It seems that everytime you think you have hit and tapped the mother lode, another beautiful hottie walks in. A nice predicament to have.

We had a little wine then off to the shower for her to clean up. She looked great in the towel and I enjoyed unwrapping my daytime present. I know I had the camera video on but have yet to review any of my latest videos from this last trip. She was a good kisser, pushed back at giving a BBBJ but after I gave her an oral to remember, she loosened up and finally got into a very nice BBBJ. Camilla enjoyed swallowing all of me which made me very happy. She was great in missionary and cowgirl, but when I gave it to her in doggie, she really picked up her energy and excitement. After the first pop we lay in bed and just talked a little. She was a college student and was working to help make ends meet. She gave me a nice sensual massage, worked to make me hard again. This time I made her work hard in cowgirl and reverse cowgirl. I finished with her pinned to the mattress. Two very nice pops. We then showered together. She had very beautiful soft skin. I like it when they enjoy cleaning my cock and balls. They are so gentle and seem to be very thankful for the time together. Always nice to have a hottie soap you up in the tub. The day had started out very nice. Needless to say I had no idea that it was about to go nova!

After Camilla departed I headed over to The Patio and had a nice pizza pie and beer. I had notified several hotties I had been talking with the past few months on Mamba that I was in town and if they wanted to meet to text or call me.

I heard back from this 19 year old college student and we set up a meeting at Arena City Bar at 7 PM. I grabbed a drink at Arena and a table near the band playing. About 19. 10 in walks this tall auburn headed lovely, Laura, wearing high heels, a swatch of jeans (she called a skirt) and a nice low-cut top (showing how nicely she was endowed-a nice set of perky twins). With the band playing very loud and trying to converse with her across the table was weak at best, she then recommended I move next to her at the table. While Laura was a very attractive hottie, I found myself right next to that low-cut top and staring at the twins, hoping they also wanted to come out and play that night. All she wanted to drink was a fresh juice drink. With the band playing I then asked after she was done with her drink what she might like to do. She said just be with me and talk. I offered to take a walk down K St or we could go back to my place where I had some nice wine. She said for me to choose. (it was like asking the fat kid to guard the pie). Guess which way I went? We moseyed over to my place.

She liked the new apartment look, and the security. I popped the cork on the wine and we sat and enjoyed a small glass wine. Very nice, she leaned up against me a lot. She sure smelled nice. I asked her if she had a boyfriend and she said that she had broken up with him about 9 months before. I asked if she had dated much since her breakup and she said between studying at University and spending the summer with her mother she did not have time for a boyfriend right now. This raised my 'monger radar' to a peak interest and a fully operational screen! Needless to say it also peaked my little heads interest!

With the way things were going so smoothly in such short order. (just 1 hour since we had ever met) I decided to go I for the kill figuring this hottie was dressed to kill and had probably not been with a man in quite awhile. After some light kissing, touching, petting and then lots of DFKing I moved her from the couch to the king size bed. Great passionate kissing and slowly undressed each other. I slowly removed that little jean skirt and her top. Very nice lingerie and I thoroughly enjoyed removing her fancy hosiery from her body. I felt like a little kid in a candy shop or like on Christmas morning opening a very nice wrapped present. All for me. Keep in mind she appeared to not have had a man in quite awhile so I took things very slow. I held back my personal joy and expression when I unhooked her bra and let the twins run free. A very nice set of see cups. I ravished those yams both sucking and kissing. I slowly kissed her whole body which excited the hell out of her. I forgot to tell you that this hottie had some damn long nails and believe me I felt them that night. I gave her a nice and slow oral session which had her going nuts plus she even enjoyed several fingers inside to help get her all hot and ready. She was begging for my cock, but I told her it was my turn for some reciprocation so she gorged herself on my cock giving a great BBBJ. I made her swallow all of me as I pulled on her long auburn hair back and forth. Finally she was more than ready for missionary. I was ever so slow in entering her. Teased her with the head for a good while, she kept trying to pull me in, but I resisted till she could no longer take the teasing then when I was deep inside her that is where she had those long finger nails embedded in my ass as she held on for dear life, all the while she was DFKing and just sucking on my lips deeply. You know she is enjoying the ride when she is sticking her tongue deep inside your ears and going just plain wild. I felt like a bronco rider enjoying the ride and holding on for as long as I could! Clearly this hottie had not had a good round of sex in quite awhile! My job was to keep it up and satisfy her. We had a great time in doggie where she actually enjoyed me slapping that ass hard as I rode her from behind with a little hair pulling just like in the rodeo. I pinned her to the mattress hard to get as deep as I could and finally was able to come. Not a bad first ride and I made her come at least twice by the way her body was shaking.

We lay around talking (she wants to improve her English skills. I told her ok but that I also wanted to have her continue working her 'oral' skills at the same time). We had a little more wine and I gave her a slow light touching massage all over her back, legs, ass, pussy, etc. She then gave me a great hard massage on me and then turned to a light touching massage in an effort to get me hard again. She was able to suck me hard and we had a great 2nd round. I can still feel her long finger nails in my ass cheeks. It was like she was using some spurs on my ass to keep me riding hard and ride hard I did! We had about 4 great hours of sex, lots of DFK, sucking and f***ing. Not bad for a first time meeting. Her damn phone kept going off after 11 PM, it was her roommate just checking to make sure she was ok. She finally answered the call and said while she had considered staying for the night (yea!) she felt she needed to leave since she had morning classes and her roommate was worried. I told her that was fine and if she wanted she could come the next night and stay if she chose to. We called her a cab and I walked her down, gave her 50 grivna for fare, a great big hug and kiss, little pat on the ass, grabbed those luscious cheeks and waved goodnight. It was a great first 'date' and one I hoped to repeat. Two great lays in my new place. I considered calling it a night, but it was only 12. 30 so I decided to clean up and head to Avalon where I had heard from a driver it might be ladies night. What happened next is worth a separate report, a night to remember for many a mongerers night!

Hunter

[Insomniaque]

If they didn't match their pictures.

And if you do more research you will find that this same girl, is advertising herself at different prices.

I know they do it in the Uk as well.

The same girl advertises at £ 100 for 1/2 hour, and £100 per/ hour.

Thanks Jojo,

I indeed noticed that many pros had different profiles (names, ages, etc.) but I hadn't paid attention to prices. My, plenty of sharks in the Dnipro.

Never mind. I am currently in touch with Lucy Pinder.

[Insomniaque]

- Hotels: normally I stay in 4/5 stars hotels in the diplomatic district (whatever this means in Kiev). Are such hotels guest friendly in K? If they aren't, do you have any suggestion for the weekend? Please keep in mind that I love "whole nights" and I hate to be bothered by the hotels security...

If you can afford it, I definitely recommend the Premier Palace. Nice place, good service and utterly girl-friendly (you will find some high-end hookers inside, for that matter) and you don't even need to tip the security when you bring a girl in. Plus there is a strip-club in the hotel; given the place I assume it's high-end as well. Not been there, so I don't know if take-out is on the menu; you might want to check it out if money is not your concern.

- Where to find girls... Again, suggestions? Escorts? Clubs where to find pros?

Apart from dating sites? Rio strip-club, as far as I'm concerned. Nothing better to suggest... Unless the RP has found a worthy successor?

- Prices. What is a fair rate for a whole night? I am in my mid thirties, decent looking and normally a good company. If this matters in Ukraine. To what price should I stick to avoid to be treated as an idiot?

Max. USD300, say for 3-4 hours (at least).

[Jojosun]

US$ 80 max per hour .And if the pictures don't match your expectations ,send them away.

Plenty of Fish in the Dnipro.

If they didn't match their pictures.

And if you do more research you will find that this same girl, is advertising herself at different prices.

I know they do it in the Uk as well.

The same girl advertises at £ 100 for 1/2 hour, and £100 per/ hour.

[Jojosun]

I would like to know what prices you guys usually pay for the "pros" advertising on Flirt? As far as I can see, prices start from UAH450 for the low-end, with an average price around UAH600. Now I have this chick, a bit too skinny in my taste but with a really slutty look (arf! arf!) so she might be an option. She quoted USD150 per hour (anal excluded), to which I replied I am not a thanksgiving turkey and there is no way I pay twice as much as the average price. She then retorted: at that price, simply the pictures are not real.

Am I right to think that she is bullshiting me?

US$ 80 max per hour .And if the pictures don't match your expectations ,send them away.

Plenty of Fish in the Dnipro.

[Frazer]

Dar fellows:

In november I will be (for the first time) in Ukraine for a 10 days business trip. I will spend most of these 10 days in Kiev and most likely I'll have a short trip to Lugansk. My company will pay for the hotels that I choose and I will be accompanied by a (male) colleague. I will however monger solo.

As I do before every trip, I've already RTFF but some issues are not yet clear and I would really appreciate some help

- Hotels: normally I stay in 4/5 stars hotels in the diplomatic district (whatever this means in Kiev). Are such hotels guest friendly in K? If they aren't, do you have any suggestion for the weekend? Please keep in mind that I love "whole nights" and I hate to be bothered by the hotels security...

- Where to find girls. I've been working on Mamba and other general dating sites (Okcupid, plentyoffish...) but I don't really feel comfortable with the results I had so far. As others have pointed out, most of the replies come from obvoius pros (which is just fine for me...) but so far I had problems in discussing prices and service (how long, what is included, how much for the whole night and so on..). Again, suggestions? Escorts? Clubs where to find pros? I've nothing against freebies but I just won't have enough time for that.

- Prices. What is a fair rate for a whole night? I am in my mid thirties, decent looking and normally a good company. If this matters in Ukraine. To what price should I stick to avoid to be treated as an idiot?

- Avoiding the starfish. Are bad performers frequent? Any tip to deal with or (better) to avoid them?

Thank you for any input. Field report guaranteed.