Kyiv

[Pantherman38]

I black American male traveling to Kiev via Budapest. I have been on this site for years and it had prepared me immensely for my voyages abroad. I have traveled to many foreign destinations and this is my first time in Kiev. What should I expect in regards to the general attitudes to other ethnic nationalities?

I would appreciate any insight on this subject.

[Explorer69]

I am in Odessa just now, and very coincidently the two semi free-bees that I have been going out with the past weeks had the same job: Working for some internet love site as interpreter between (stupid) foreign men who is looking for a wife on the internet site, but the girl cannot speak English and an interpreter is need, what of course costs money. But there is not real girl looking for marriage it is all being taking care of by the interpreter, who gets 2 USD for each message she 'translates'. The other free bee told me that she take care of about 50 fake accounts on an internet site which is also is a pay site and her job is to keep the communication going as the poor men are paying per message and that she get 1 USD per message. She told me that she make a couple of hundred USD this way per month.

Take care out there.

I have had a similar story, I dated girl in Odessa who had worked with "Anastasia", she told me the girls working there had to write fake messages and run correspondence with a lot of guys. Some of the photos for different girls were in reality the same girl, but from different nagels and with different outfits. A big fraud! She told me she stopped working there because this was all too crazy!

[Hal Johnson]

Yeah, you definitely have to pay for the gold and silver gallery, but its totally worth it. I have had many dates with great freebies.

There is a fixed cost per month (I think its like $30) and there are lots of girls that I have met through it. There is no per message cost and translation is totally free.

Joining this site is definitely worth it, if you are serious about wanting to meet freebies. I have had lots of good luck through it and highly recommend it.

The only catch is that you put that you are from Western Europe, North America, Australia and New Zealand to be approved.

Good luck!

Hal

[Himself]

I had a look for fun to this site romanceinrussia. You have 3 types of galleries of women: Gold, Silver and Free. The funny thing is that when you browse the Gold & Silver gallery, the photos of the girls are quite good with many attractive girls. When you browse the Free gallery, it looks like more a "horror" gallery. Then you discover that for contacting "Gold & Silver" you need to upgrade and pay and for the Free. Well it's free.

I am in Odessa just now, and very coincidently the two semi free-bees that I have been going out with the past weeks had the same job: Working for some internet love site as interpreter between (stupid) foreign men who is looking for a wife on the internet site, but the girl cannot speak English and an interpreter is need, what of course costs money - but there is not real girl looking for marriage it is all being taking care of by the interpreter, who gets 2 USD for each message she 'translates'. The other free bee told me that she take care of about 50 fake accounts on an internet site which is also is a pay site and her job is to keep the communication going as the poor men are paying per message and that she get 1 USD per message. She told me that she make a couple of hundred USD this way per month...

take care out there....

[Poisson1]

Hey guys,

I was asked a question by a few people about the site romanceinrussia. Com. I thought I would just post the answer here.

Its really good for finding freebies! I have tried flirt/mamba and this seems to work a lot better. Its because they carefully filter who uses the site, including guys.

The easiest way to get accepted on the site is to make sure you put your country of origin as USA, Canada, England, Italy, France, Spain, Germany, etc. Essentially Western Europe or North America. I think the administrators of the site will only accept people who put this as their country of origin. I found this out because the first few times I was not approved because I put down that I was from Kiev, instead of New York.

Good luck!

I am in st. Petersburg now having a blast. Next stop estonia. Thanks again for all the great advice and help!

Thanks,

Hal

I had a look for fun to this site romanceinrussia. You have 3 types of galleries of women: Gold, Silver and Free. The funny thing is that when you browse the Gold & Silver gallery, the photos of the girls are quite good with many attractive girls. When you browse the Free gallery, it looks like more a "horror" gallery. Then you discover that for contacting "Gold & Silver" you need to upgrade and pay and for the Free. Well it's free.

[Hal Johnson]

Hey guys,

I was asked a question by a few people about the site romanceinrussia. Com. I thought I would just post the answer here.

Its really good for finding freebies! I have tried flirt/mamba and this seems to work a lot better. Its because they carefully filter who uses the site, including guys.

The easiest way to get accepted on the site is to make sure you put your country of origin as USA, Canada, England, Italy, France, Spain, Germany, etc. Essentially Western Europe or North America. I think the administrators of the site will only accept people who put this as their country of origin. I found this out because the first few times I was not approved because I put down that I was from Kiev, instead of New York.

Good luck!

I am in st. Petersburg now having a blast. Next stop estonia. Thanks again for all the great advice and help!

Thanks,

Hal

[Hal Johnson]

Hey guys,

I am having a great time in Ukraine and Russia. Thanks for all the great posts.

Here's something that has been really useful for me, I have had some great luck meeting some beautiful women on:

www.romanceinrussia.com

It's good for freebies and p4p. Definitely, start sending out messages before you do your travels.

[DJ FourMoney]

The cheap days are over in Kiev but compared to Moscow I suppose you could say that it's cheap. It's all relative. I have not been to Kiev since September, but Arena, Avalon, and Shooters all have semi-pros that vary in price. There are still pros around but they are not nearly as obvious as they once were. Just keep your eyes open for the tell tale signs (girls sitting together drinking coke and not dancing) and you might see some who you can make eye contact with and approach. Depending on the night of the week and the state of your "game" there are some "normal" girls at the same bars who can be coerced into having sex. After all, Kiev IS a University town so there are plenty of girls around if you look in the right places. And of course, you can always check out the Salons. Some of the girls will make "house calls" but it's a matter of what you can negotiate.

You still have time left though. Get on www.flirt.com.ua and start getting some things going. I would be willing to bet that if you do a search on girls between the ages of 18 and 22, you will have 15% who OVERTLY say they are willing to have sex for money. Others who are looking for a man between the ages of 16 and 60 are a dead give away. Chat them up on line (in English) and you will be surprised at what you get back. (Don't forget the English toggle in the bottom left) My experience has been that Ukrainian girls in Kiev tend to speak more English than in Moscow.Tell them you are coming for vacation and are looking for sex. Most of these girls know other girls who are "working" and will hook you up. Nothing ventured nothing gained.

Not only are the "salad" days over but the push back has started -

http://rt.com/Top_News/2009-12-14/uk...x-tourism.html

There is also the minor fear that it might be legalized. Some were complaining (if you watch it) that they are being hit on by those seeking P4P making it impossible to go down the streets of Kiev one fairly attractive girl said.

I find this interesting given the recent raid of River Palace reported on these forums.

Have Fun!

[Mr Well]

Do anyone have any knowledge about Impressa.

It was recommended but for me it is unknown?

[Julien Kiev]

How much did that cost?

It was 100 $ to go out with girl or to have sex in their own bedrooms.

[Bez Bezarra]

I used to live here 2 years ago and go to Klub Mexico and spend much more good time in private rooms.

How much did that cost?

[Strike 69]

Hi,

I'm in Kiev for 10 days. I used to live here 2 years ago but few things had changed it seems. Where is my dear club Mexico (strip club in Kreshiatik where you could also spend good time in private rooms.). Does someone knows this kind of place in Kiev, I mean where you don't need to take out girl but enjoy show. And much more after.

Also, if one of you is interested to go with me to different places as RP, etc to find girls, it can be fun also.

Ciao,

Julien

Interesting, I just had a great sesson with an escort girl from Ukraine in Mexico City, quite overpriced but excellent service overall. The girl was very surprised to see that I was able to speak a few words in Russkiy,.... maybe a preview of I am going to get in Kiev.

[Julien Kiev]

Hi,

I'm in Kiev for 10 days. I used to live here 2 years ago but few things had changed it seems. Where is my dear club Mexico (strip club in Kreshiatik where you could also spend good time in private rooms.). Does someone knows this kind of place in Kiev, I mean where you don't need to take out girl but enjoy show. And much more after.

Also, if one of you is interested to go with me to different places as RP, etc to find girls, it can be fun also.

Ciao,

Julien

[Jake993]

Hi,

I am taking my first trip to Ukraine. Kiev this Christmas holiday, and are staying until the beginning of January.

I thought Ukraine was suppose to be a cheap country, but then I read here that girls charge like 150 dollars and up? That is insane. Is it not possible to find girls that go with you for 50 dollars and up? Of course, I talk about independents, I realize that company girls have to charge a lot more.

And Arena have no working girls anymore? That is dissapointing, I have heard so much good about that place. Any other place to recommend for cheap girls and alot of fun?

The cheap days are over in Kiev but compared to Moscow I suppose you could say that it's cheap. It's all relative. I have not been to Kiev since September, but Arena, Avalon, and Shooters all have semi-pros that vary in price. There are still pros around but they are not nearly as obvious as they once were. Just keep your eyes open for the tell tale signs (girls sitting together drinking coke and not dancing) and you might see some who you can make eye contact with and approach. Depending on the night of the week and the state of your "game" there are some "normal" girls at the same bars who can be coerced into having sex. After all, Kiev IS a University town so there are plenty of girls around if you look in the right places. And of course, you can always check out the Salons. Some of the girls will make "house calls" but it's a matter of what you can negotiate.

You still have time left though. Get on www.flirt.com.ua and start getting some things going. I would be willing to bet that if you do a search on girls between the ages of 18 and 22, you will have 15% who OVERTLY say they are willing to have sex for money. Others who are looking for a man between the ages of 16 and 60 are a dead give away. Chat them up on line (in English) and you will be surprised at what you get back. (Don't forget the English toggle in the bottom left) My experience has been that Ukrainian girls in Kiev tend to speak more English than in Moscow.Tell them you are coming for vacation and are looking for sex. Most of these girls know other girls who are "working" and will hook you up. Nothing ventured nothing gained.

[Ididid]

Hi,

I am taking my first trip to Ukraine. Kiev this Christmas holiday, and are staying until the beginning of January.

I thought Ukraine was suppose to be a cheap country, but then I read here that girls charge like 150 dollars and up? That is insane. Is it not possible to find girls that go with you for 50 dollars and up? Of course, I talk about independents, I realize that company girls have to charge a lot more.

And Arena have no working girls anymore? That is dissapointing, I have heard so much good about that place. Any other place to recommend for cheap girls and alot of fun?