Kyiv

[Tomek123]

Thank you for the report. That is closer to MY experience in Kiev, even if I am not as tall, young, or good looking as you. I am able to get great sex, mind-blowing sex, perhaps not from supermodels, but from very beautiful girls and women, and at a reasonable price. Of course, we all have minimum standards, but after those standards are met, the quality of the sex is more important than getting the best looking girl. The problem is that you never know how good the sex is going to be until after it is too late. Sex with a girl lies there and complains is not good, whether she is a supermodel or not.

Steve is right. In any case, you will get higher quality women than at home in Denmark or Norway or the USA. Europe and the USA are extremely pragmatic cultures. There is a very low status of a man in family and society. He has long been humiliated. Several generations of arrogant, arrogant, self-confident women have grown up. A man often does not feel the same feelings with a western woman as during sex with a Ukrainian lady. One my friend, a German, confessed to me about it. Tomek, the impression is that you fuck not a woman but something strong equal to you. . It's like having sex with a guy. When I see the ass of a young Ukrainian woman, I feel the strength of a male. I feel her humility. It excites. I feel like a man. Why so. The western woman has lost the ability to be submissive. She earns as a man. She can tell a man any insult. She is protected by law.

And female submission is something that includes the mechanism of male arousal and makes an orgasm so strong. Because it is inherent in us from nature. And this is the main drama of the Western world. Western men travel to Mexico or Slavic countries not only because women are poor there. They go because the submissive Russian or Ukrainian white female ass and pink pussy give them a sense of sharpness and wild male power. Sense of complete domination. These women are weaker and more feminine than in the west.

Some photos hot UA chicks.

[Limarian]

Fifth day.

A pleasant 'intimate massage' from Dreams' with Marina a pleasant attractive rather professional young lady-there seems to be a protocol with these internet based massage places. They have clear rules- bringing a light cover for the bed to protect the sheets from the oil and antiseptic hand rub for the client. In spite of the ads offering kissing-they don't-just peripheral nibbling-you can stroke the puss why but no mouthing and if you want 'peep show' the girls will act puzzled so that's not an easy option either. All in all it's a bit on a sterile experience. I prefer massage to escorts where the girl that shows is never the one in the seductive pictures-I like a little more intimacy even if it doesn't end with full sex and there's always that hope that it might. So, in spite of injecting nearly 5 MG of of pt141 topped up with 75 MG of Viagra there was no huge reaction but she got me hard and I came with a huge relaxing flood of relaxation. Irritatingly I woke up at 3 am with a monstrous erection like a solid tree trunk-nice but rather inconvenient as it didn't go down until the following morning. Discovered a great basement club just next to Dominos pizza on Baseina a whole range of beers and lagers. Noisy fun place for a group, tables of drunk girls to chat to. I'm going back tomorrow.

[Stevie69]

Thank you for the report. That is closer to MY experience in Kiev, even if I am not as tall, young, or good looking as you. I am able to get great sex, mind-blowing sex, perhaps not from supermodels, but from very beautiful girls and women, and at a reasonable price. Of course, we all have minimum standards, but after those standards are met, the quality of the sex is more important than getting the best looking girl. The problem is that you never know how good the sex is going to be until after it is too late. Sex with a girl lies there and complains is not good, whether she is a supermodel or not.

During the three days in Kiev I got a few c....g

All in all it was a nice trip. But I am torn whether I should visit Kiev again. It was a lot of work to find women. The trip made me a bit more confident, but maybe there are better places to learn that like Sankt Petersburg or Moscow. I also think about going to African countries like Ghana, Uganda or Madagascar, hmmm.

[The Mercy Seat]

Hi,

Going to be free 18-22 of May in Kiev. If anyone wants to meet for a beer or some Food or talk. Send me a PM.

[Tomek123]

In Ukraine, the biggest value for veterans is ordinary beautiful girls who urgently need money for new trendy panties and smartphones. Also these are beautiful single UA mothers. These are not prostitutes in the usual sense of the word. If this beautiful golden-haired girl were born in Norway or Denmark, then most likely you never you would not see her in your bed. You could only look at her with longing in a cafe. These are rich countries. These girls. This is the most spicy and savory dish in the Ukrainian restaurant. Except for them, of course, there are also experienced professionals. For which sex is work. But the most tasty and spicy dish you can get in Ukraine is young beautiful ordinary ones girls. As a rule, many of them have a boyfriend and may even love him. This is the sharpest dish. Refined. Except for Russia, this is probably the only place in the world where you can fuck a tender blonde like a girl from magazines in full force. She stands in the pose of the dog and you see her white as snow beautiful ass. And pink pussy. She is a student or seller in a Kiev supermarket with a salary of $ 300 a month. Ten minutes ago, you drank coffee and a little earlier she tenderly spoke with her boyfriend and discussed with him the next trip to the cinema. She says affectionate words to him and you approach her from behind and your excited cock touches her fantastic ass. She starts gently massaging your cock and at the same time talking to her boyfriend. Her hair shines like gold. Her laugh. Her beautiful voice and her young beautiful body excites you and you turn into a wild animal. You are no longer a man but a male. A wild beast. You see this submissive white ass and shy pink pussy. Your hand powerfully slaps the pope. Your dick enters this pussy with rage as a brutal Mongol horde breaks into the besieged city. Punch and punch again. And punch again. This is absolute power and domination. Ukraine's veterans are well aware of this feeling. . but Ukraine can cruelly disappoint you. It is not ready to immediately open to you all its charms and dignity. It's like a wild flower. This is a strange world. Ukraine. It requires that you become a little Ukrainian. So that you a little integrated into this society.

[Tomek123]

Yes. PhotoSlider telling the truth. This is absolutely true. This is absolute truth and when we create our community called the Ukrainian Legion these words our friend PhotoSlider should be written at the entrance to our office.

Ukraine and Thailand is just a hunt for different sensations. For different emotional and sexual states. It's like cocaine or marijuana. What's better? It's just a different feeling and that's it. In Thailand, you see a battle-hardened sex service veteran in your hotel room. This girl came three years ago to Bangkok from a village in Laos. It's like a bio robot. She's polite. A lot of smiles. She does what everyone does a day, often several times a day. It's an iron Asian workhorse. It's like sex with a martian. It's Asian skin, psychology is alien to you, even her scent is unusual for you. Her pussy will accept any client. You understand that she will give this smile to everyone, the old man from Sweden and the young macho from Russia or Italy. In Ukraine, the biggest value for veterans is young ordinary beautiful girls who urgently need money for new trendy panties and smartphones. Also these are beautiful single UA mothers. These are not prostitutes in the usual sense of the word. If this beautiful golden-haired girl were born in Norway or Denmark, then most likely you never you would not see her in your bed. You could only look at her with longing in a cafe. These are rich countries. These girls. This is the most spicy and savory dish in the Ukrainian restaurant. Except for them, of course, there are also experienced professionals. For which sex is work. But the most tasty and spicy dish you can get in Ukraine is young beautiful ordinary ones girls. As a rule, many of them have a boyfriend and may even love him. This is the sharpest dish. Refined. Except for Russia, this is probably the only place in the world where you can fuck a tender blonde like a girl from magazines in full force like a wild animal.

[PhotoSlider]

What could have been done better in your case?

- Forgo Lviv.

- Whenever Ukrainian female makes eye contact, and you fancy her, ask for a date.

- While giving the girl money, ask for her phone number, Instagram, Viber, any way to contact her.

Seems that you did the latter with the girl you met before the departure.

And maybe couple more:

- Do not go to any establishments at Arena City.

- Do not go to strip clubs in general.

There is a slight chance of finding a newly arrived girls at Rio, but usually they just take your money. $300-400, after entrance fee, drinks and private dances are factored in, doesn't guarantee good quality take out. My impression it is 50-50% chance of a good performance at your place. Too much for a short, or even a long visit.

I go to Rio for food and drinks and occasional eye candy, but do not do take out any more. To be honest my last visit to Rio was in November 2017, and maybe 30% of the ladies on stage looked attractive. I didn't like the atmosphere at Scarlette. YMMV.

For a short visit Kiev can be terrible or wonderful. True lottery, or more like semi-controlled card counting while playing blackjack at casino, where chances depend on length of stay, monger's attitude, preparedness, and knowing one of local languages (mostly Russian, and more and more Ukrainian). No matter what some state here, language does help in many cases, including communication while making love, before and after.

Blackjack allows attempts at calculating, but doesn't guarantee positive outcome. Over long periods of time good player will not lose. Same with mongering in Kiev. Hard work, great excitement along the way, occasional failures here and there, and insatiable desire for more).

[Horny American]

She does give a pretty good wet sloppy deep throat BBBJ with moaning etc. Two of my three nuts were from that. She's a decent lay as well. She did contact me (both of them did) and her profile doesn't say anything about looking for a sponsor but she is definitely an UTR provider. She did keep on messaging me after our date for a repeat but by then I was hooked on the hotter spinner. She even offered to bring a friend for a hot 3 some but I passed. Her dream is to find someone to take her to the USA.

Very interesting about Marina. Two years ago she contacted me unsolicited on Mamba. She was very aggressive and sent me about 40 messages. I was semi interested but she didn't have any clear pics. I kind of strung her along a little in case of emergency I would meet her. But I had a lot of success that trip off mamba so she didn't make the cut. She ended up getting pissed and blocking me. Now I wish I would have met her I love a good BBBJ / CIM.

[Limarian]

Day four.

I am making a bit of a mess of things here in Kiev. I was pondering the options. A possible two girl peep show lesbian massage could be exciting after lunch. A brush with the usual surly soviet cashier at the corner caff and then on for a coffee. Sitting in the sun a well dressed older woman sits next to me and strikes up some innocent conversation in a most polite and gentle tone. 'Will this civil encounter lead to sex?' my fantasy mind asks as the first stirrings at the dirtiness of my brain workings begin. Sure enough, dropping her voice she asks about massage and I feel a leap. Could this be my problem with the younger lovelies? Perhaps-I actually need some more sympathetic less demanding challenge. Is this a new low in my journey to the gutter of sex? 'Walk away-please don't do this to me ' my logical left brain thunders. 100 dollars is agreed and we walk to my apartment. Gentlemen, I must now tell you that this was the lowest most irredeemably ghastly sexual encounter of my life. Once the trappings were removed-well you must remember the bathroom scene from 'The Shining', Then there was the language problem, the endless babble, the moans about various operations and fractures, the general resistance to follow instructions, the wandering unkempt minge disaster and the half hour in the toilet adjusting various bandages. And there was more, I now have to deal with the nasty side effects of the little blue helper I had swallowed. Why why why do I get myself into these situations?

I stuffed down some more Viagra and rang Angelina Salon in eternal hope of a pretty girl who does all that kinky stuff they promise-kissing and 'peep show' etc. Of course, the nicely rounded pleasant friendly girl that came refused the intimacy of kissing-just pecks and no BBBJ or sex in spite of my lavish promises of more than the 1800 uah. She did have a routine straddling my prostrate form facing away giving the feeling that it was her pussy rather than her well oiled palms I was penetrating. I came nicely in her greasy palms her finger unexpectedly poking around in my rear entrance. Enormous happy relief and an excellent classic massage followed and I made her come (maybe) with the vibrator. I tipped her 200 uah and may well call her for another strong massage tomorrow. So some progress.

[Member #4722]

Just spent two weeks in Kiev and as usual I didn't have any problems finding ladies to take care of my needs. I will say that mamba is getting even more full of fake profiles from agencies. I did try out two different ladies that contacted me once they saw my profile show up as being local (Kiev as location).

Marina was a pretty 34 yo brunette with a nice rack (36 C's) and an average body. I would estimate that she was about 5'4" or so and around 130-135 lbs. I'the rate her in the 6-7 range. She speaks decent English and she asked for $100 for 2-3 hrs of play. Pretty good BBBJCIM but she is a spitter. MSOG no problem and I got 3 mitts in. She also LOVES champagne so if you buy a couple of bottles (cheap is fine) she will fuck you silly. She also offered to stay all night with more play in the morning for another $100 but I passed.

The other mamba girl was just adorable and had a sweet ass. I saw her three nights and my only complaint was that everything was covered (CBJ not BBBJ). I wished I could've brought her home with me..

Very interesting about Marina. Two years ago she contacted me unsolicited on Mamba. She was very aggressive and sent me about 40 messages. I was semi interested but she didn't have any clear pics. I kind of strung her along a little in case of emergency I would meet her. But I had a lot of success that trip off mamba so she didn't make the cut. She ended up getting pissed and blocking me. Now I wish I would have met her I love a good BBBJ / CIM.

[DramaFree11]

Just spent two weeks in Kiev and as usual I didn't have any problems finding ladies to take care of my needs. I will say that mamba is getting even more full of fake profiles from agencies. I did try out two different ladies that contacted me once they saw my profile show up as being local (Kiev as location).

Marina was a pretty 34 yo brunette with a nice rack (36 C's) and an average body. I would estimate that she was about 5'4" or so and around 130-135 lbs. I'the rate her in the 6-7 range. She speaks decent English and she asked for $100 for 2-3 hrs of play. Pretty good BBBJCIM but she is a spitter. MSOG no problem and I got 3 mitts in. She also LOVES champagne so if you buy a couple of bottles (cheap is fine) she will fuck you silly. She also offered to stay all night with more play in the morning for another $100 but I passed.

The other mamba girl was just adorable and had a sweet ass. I saw her three nights and my only complaint was that everything was covered (CBJ not BBBJ). I wished I could've brought her home with me..

Cute Girl! You are doing a good job of proving me wrong. [Deleted by Admin].

[Horny American]

FYI, millennium girls quoted two (2) hours for the $300 which is why I passed. I can't edit typos so I figured I'd correct it this way.

I tried out a few strip joints as well. Millennium ladies tried to shorten the time. Quoted the expected $300 but only for 2 hours and not 3hrs like usual do I passed. Princess is located across the street from millennium (next to Buddha Bar) but that's another story.

Lastly, I tried out three different massage places too but since nobody else is posting info about massages on here and since we don't even have a massage thread I'll keep it to myself for now.

[PhotoSlider]

...The girl was a tall brunette, very shy at the beginning. I undressed her from behind and slowly started playing with her firm breasts while kissing her neck. Her lustful breathing was a turn on. Not so shy anymore, she threw me on the bed and gave me a BJ. It was really nice after all the failures...

To me this sounds like the glass was more than half full.

I would classify your first visit to Ukraine as reasonably successful, considering you are a newbie, obviously came in unprepared, and wasted time in Lviv (great city to visit, but not really a mongering destination).

Kiev is not for fainthearted, or pathetic whiners. You had at least 3 nice encounters.

Thank you much for sharing in such detail, especially for being honest, and confessing your doubts. Seems like a few girls took substantial interest in you, and there's potential for more. You being early thirties, good looking and having adequate engineer's income definitely helps. Going forward the choice is yours. As Tomek said, Ukraine is not Thailand. It is one thing to go to Kiev for work, or reside there and partake in special entertainment. It is completely different sport visiting for 5-7 days strictly for mongering, and expecting paradise on earth.

What could have been done better in your case?

- Forgo Lviv.

- Whenever Ukrainian female makes eye contact, and you fancy her, ask for a date.

- While giving the girl money, ask for her phone number, Instagram, Viber, any way to contact her.

Seems that you did the latter with the girl you met before the departure.

Christmas and New Year's Eve can be fun in Kiev, as long as there are few options lined up, preferably regulars. I did it in December 2016.

Even if you never come back, there are great memories to have.

[Horny American]

Just spent two weeks in Kiev and as usual I didn't have any problems finding ladies to take care of my needs. I will say that mamba is getting even more full of fake profiles from agencies. I did try out two different ladies that contacted me once they saw my profile show up as being local (Kiev as location).

Marina was a pretty 34 yo brunette with a nice rack (36 C's) and an average body. I would estimate that she was about 5'4" or so and around 130-135 lbs. I'the rate her in the 6-7 range. She speaks decent English and she asked for $100 for 2-3 hrs of play. Pretty good BBBJCIM but she is a spitter. MSOG no problem and I got 3 mitts in. She also LOVES champagne so if you buy a couple of bottles (cheap is fine) she will fuck you silly. She also offered to stay all night with more play in the morning for another $100 but I passed.

The other mamba girl was just adorable and had a sweet ass. I saw her three nights and my only complaint was that everything was covered (CBJ not BBBJ). I wished I could've brought her home with me.

I tried out a few strip joints as well. Millennium ladies tried to shorten the time. Quoted the expected $300 but only for 3 hours and not 3 grs like usual do I passed. Princess is located across the street from millennium (next to Buddha Bar) but that's another story.

Lastly, I tried out three different massage places too but since nobody else is posting info about massages on here and since we don't even have a massage thread I'll keep it to myself for now.

[Tomek123]

Ukraine girls love to play games and are looking for financial compensation for there service. Other then that they are the same as all other girls all over the world. That being said, many have left the country for Better Lives, not reported much on this page.

I agree. You also need to understand that the high position of a man in family and society is so characteristic of East Slavic peoples is gradually crumbling. And the female domination is gradually increasing. The power and power of a woman is gradually increasing. Of course this is not the aggressive Western feminism from which men run into Thailand and Ukraine. But the process is going. Ukrainian and Russian man is not the same self-confident domineering arrogant male what was even 10 years ago. So you should not be a boor and primitive but should not be a rag for wiping female shoes. Ukrainian young female should see your Western culture but also feel that you will not allow her to dominate yourself. Then she will meekly become a dog without panties in your hotel room. . and maybe you will fuck her the next time you visit Kiev. And more and more. Can you fuck her even then when she's already married, be careful not to harm her. She should feel your hidden power. Constantly. You need to get rid of the western feminist models after arriving in Kiev, but also not to become a cheeky primitive idiot. Like some stupid western guys.

P.S. Hot UA chicks.