Kyiv

[Guntherus]

I'm heading to Kiev this week for the first time. I've seen old information on other sites about many bars and clubs being full of working girls. .....
I know it's easier ordering a girl online from an agency but I actually find it more enjoyable to go out and find prostitutes / escorts.... Thanks in advance.

I would say, the clubs and bars in the centre have working girls, but they are jaded, worn out and probably will try to scam you. Caribbean, Arena, Buddha, Shooters, Forsage. But it can be easier for younger guys. A topic not so much discussed here, age makes a big difference. Also on the streets (Kreshatik), but allow me to remind us of the terrible fact that Ukraine has one of the highest rate of STD in countries with reliable statistic.

[DramaFree11]

Let's think about this logically if you were a girl would you hang out at McDonald's, looking for Dudes. Think about it.

[DramaFree11]

Mcdounald's, is an option, but low end. Night Life is terrible, way over-rated. Fridays OK, but that is the only night that is decent. Caribbean club is option, also very average at best.

I'm heading to Kiev this week for the first time. I've seen old information on other sites about many bars and clubs being full of working girls. Is this still the case, everyone here just seems to talk about getting girls online.

If so which bars are good to visit.

I've also seen some older posts here about girls looking for guys at McDonald's in Kiev. Presumably there are a number of McDonald's in Kiev, anyone have any information on which one it is and if it's still worthwhile?

I know it's easier ordering a girl online from an agency but I actually find it more enjoyable to go out and find prostitutes / escorts.

Thanks in advance.

[Mpjsongs]

I'm heading to Kiev this week for the first time. I've seen old information on other sites about many bars and clubs being full of working girls. Is this still the case, everyone here just seems to talk about getting girls online.

If so which bars are good to visit.

I've also seen some older posts here about girls looking for guys at McDonald's in Kiev. Presumably there are a number of McDonald's in Kiev, anyone have any information on which one it is and if it's still worthwhile?

I know it's easier ordering a girl online from an agency but I actually find it more enjoyable to go out and find prostitutes / escorts.

Thanks in advance.

[Riina]

Two conclusions. First, getting rid of middlemen is key to lower prices. But getting rid of middlemen requires time. Agencies exist for a reason. Guys want to come to Kyiv for 3 days and have sex with a different girl every morning and evening, and most guys can't arrange that without an agency. Some guys might be successful using mamba semi-pros for rushed sex tours like this, but certainly not average guys. Most guys require a much more leisurely schedule to get success with true semi-pros.

I'm a big believer of cutting out the middle man. But when it comes to prostitutes, it's extremely inefficient to chase after individual girls.

[Riina]

What about that "intim-house" website? Some guy here wrote about them. They promote some salons and escort service. Saw their adds everywhere on the web.

Does nobody know them? How's the service?

http://relaxkiev.com/eng/

I think RelaxKiev is the biggest source of undercover agencies. We need some members to report links to specific numbers where the booker is making an reasonable attempt to vet girls.

[Arkiloko]

I wish we had some links to these secret agencies with no names.

What about that "intim-house" website? Some guy here wrote about them. They promote some salons and escort service. Saw their adds everywhere on the web.

Does nobody know them? How's the service?

[Riina]

I would think, if you google their number, it will show up on some kind of an escort site where you can post a link. No agency could exist without some form of internet marketing.

I wish we had some links to these secret agencies with no names.

[Riina]

Agencies don't have names. Even when the touts on the street give you "visiting cards" they just have phone numbers on them with no names.

I would think, if you google their number, it will show up on some kind of an escort site where you can post a link. No agency could exist without some form of internet marketing.

[DramaFree11]

I refuse to pay 200 taxi fee. 100 is good with 2000 girls.

Had 24 girls so far in 15 days. Had 3 days down sick with strep. Probably DFK or DATY.

Am healthy now.

3 girls were terrible:

1. From war torn Donetsk area. Visibly traumatized. Complained all the time. After she yelled irritated "It hurts! I pulled out my dick and told her literally "Get the fuck out now! Another one will be here instead of you in 30 minutes. " Lost 70 USD. Gambling money.

2. Two girls arrived for me and my friend. Paid them 2 K per. Right there in the street one started playing mama-san:

- Do you, guys, know the rules?

- ? Please remind us!

- No kissing. No touching private parts.

My friend and I looked at each other, and asked:

- What do you think?

- They can go to hell!

Got our money back, short of 100 UAH taxi fee.

3. This morning two girls arrived, very nervous newbies. Confidence and shame problems. Were rude. I turned and walked away. They yelled:

- Money for taxi!

Didn't honor them with response.

3 out of 24 - IMO not a bad ratio.

I have an unfair advantage though: this agency knows me. I speak fluent Russian and decent Ukrainian.

Warning: I do not have girls numbers to give away. I can explain my approach over Viber voice call. Cheers! Sorry, it gets very busy in Kiev.

Wow, P. Slider, I totally agree with your post. Welcome to the real Ukraine.

Nice Report.

[DramaFree11]

Agree, fighting with girls or a couple of dollars or few Euros is very bad advice. Pick you battles, there are many in dealing Kiev girls, just not worth it.

[Vitrea]

I refuse to pay 200 taxi fee. 100 is good with 2000 girls.

Taxi fee is likely to be 100 during the day and 200 at night. I am sure you can negotiate and if you know them well and they know that you are a good customer they will agree to 100 at all times. But for a newbie, who is my target audience here, they will ask 200. I personally do not worry about 3 vs 6 euros.

[Vitrea]

It sounds like you are having a good time. Which agencies did you contact for Tanya, Emma, Ilona?

Agencies don't have names. Even when the touts on the street give you "visiting cards" they just have phone numbers on them with no names.

[PhotoSlider]

Have a short message that I cannot send you.

[SuperLove]

Brother monger,

I am serious, getting tons of them at 7 plus for $$$200-250 a day.

It seems Ukraine is full of beautiful girls and most of them rely on their body to get them food. Things are changing.

Thanks Photoslider, I have contacted a few chick and they are all asking me 175-300. All of them are 7 and 7 plus.

7 and 7 plus in Kiev, highly unlikely, 6 if you are lucky. Try to deal in reality.