Kyiv

[AntonySun1996]

Yesterday as my sponsored girl was busy, I decided to try something new. Went to call a taxi outside Arena and asked the driver if he know where to find devushki and he said yes. The driver was a little bit old and quite nice, speaks very limited English but since my Russian is okay, it was not a problem. He said he knows several places and took me to check them. The first place we went is located somewhere on Shota Rustaveli street (not far from arena) inside a residence area and its name I can't remember exactly but the first name is "Wild" (two words altogether). It's not ordinary apartment but rather more like a small entertainment complex. There were many facilities inside including baths, billiard table, and several rooms. The decoration was quite classy compared to ordinary apartments.

So my driver called and a beautiful blonde opened the door who turned out to be the manager there. We went in and about six to seven girls came for my to pick, but they were quite old and not good-looking and not interesting to me at all. Actually I think the manager is so hot with beautiful blue eyes, long blond hair and attractive curves, and also looks quite young. So I would rather take her than the girls standing there for me to pick, but I was not sure if she was available and thought it would be inappropriate to ask. So I said I was going to leave but quite hesitated while looking at her. She saw I was hesitated and guessed why, and said ' ya? Ya tozhe rabotayo (me? I also work)' but only after thirty minutes. I was quite surprised and agreed immediately to meet her after 30 min.

While waiting, I decided to check another place with my driver. My driver took me to an apartment on Baseina street. Didn't had high expectation beforehand since I know the quality of the majority of apartment girls from both my own experience and forum posts, but it turned out to be a surprise. Five girls were available there and except one or two not to my taste, all quite young, pretty, and hot. Two were tall and slim (one was even taller than me, it seems), one was a little short and fat, but with big boobs. I would rate the tall beautiful girl as 8 if not 9, and the rest above 7, What's even better is the fact that they were all very welcoming and kind to me and tried hard to persuade me to stay there. But since I already promised to fck the manager girl, I decided to come back the other day.

We still had time and the driver said he knew other places but I thought these were enough discoveries for the day so I told him just take me back to the Wild xxx and wait a few minutes for the manager girl. After a while she came out and let me in. I kindly thanked the driver, gave him 500 grivnas and asked him to come back after 1 or 2 hours. Then I went to a room with the girl and fcked her. She was 22, typical Ukrainian hottie, spoke little to zero English. The price was 3000 gr per hour and 2500 for the second our (yeah more expensive than more apartments but to me was worth it). I took her one hour and was sent to hotel by my taxi driver. BTW drinks and snacks were available in that place.

My next plan during this stay in Kiev is to contact my driver again and come back to the second apartments to fck the hotties there. They are hotter than my sponsored girl I have to admit, though I used to rate her 10, haha.

Conclusions:

1. It's still possible to find gems in apartments if you have time and patience. Don't get frustrated after just a few failed tries.

2. Russian language skill is vital. Step out of your comfort zone and do some studies in your free time before you come to Kiev. Even some basic phrases would help.

3. Kiev is a lovely city of amazement and surprise.

Best wishes.

[AntonySun1996]

Hi guys,

I am going to Kiev in Dec for 4 days.

I am looking for girls under 28 years old (I am 30), 7-10 on a scale of 10.

And I am willing to compensate 100 euro (120 USD, 3000 UAH) for 2-3 hours.

Am I asking for too much? Is it realistic?

I read the posts here. I have an idea about Mumba and Tinder.

How do you distinguish those who look for long term relationship vs those who look for paid sex?.

That's quite a lot of questions bro. I suggest you to read through the forum posts of recent months and you will find answers to most of your questions. Mongering in Kiev, as you probably know, is not a easy thing for first-time foreign travellers with limited time and budget, so knowledge is important. Please take your time and read the posts.

Happy hunting.

[AntonySun1996]

I understand and believe you, but I am sure most will agree that learning Russian and practically moving to Kiev is a little excessive to sleep with white blondes. I tried Mamba, Rio, online dating, tinder, the apartments, Sky Bar, Vodka Bar, Bhudda Bar, blah blah blah. All of them were disappointing, and working your way through the scams is exhausting. Its just not a monger friendly city as a tourist.

I am actually having much more success with travelgirls.com , I have had one Latvian Blond and one Ukrainian blond staying at my house for the cost of a European flight. It take a little time, but not all the girls on there are scammer. I will try Moscow next year, some positives reports come from here.

Best wishes.

Yes I agree with you my friend and good luck to your hunting in Moscow. But my humble suggestion is that in Russia provincial cities are better than Moscow in terms of price and quality of girls. This summer I fcked a hot single mother in Volgograd for somewhere around 2000 or 3000 roubles if I remember it correctly. I found her on a local call girl website and it seems her profile is real. Maybe in non-tourist cities there are less fake photos I guess.

Good luck.

[KY694]

Hi guys,

I am going to Kiev in Dec for 4 days.

I am looking for girls under 28 years old (I am 30), 7-10 on a scale of 10.

And I am willing to compensate 100 euro (120 USD, 3000 UAH) for 2-3 hours.

Am I asking for too much? Is it realistic?

I read the posts here. I have an idea about Mumba and Tinder.

How do you distinguish those who look for long term relationship vs those who look for paid sex?

Also, it looks like there are so many fake profiles. I get quite affected by frustration. If I go and get disappointed by a lot of fakes, I may ruin the mood of my whole trip.

Call me lazy, but I am not willing to spend hours researching and video-chatting girls to make sure they are not real.

Is there a way to use mumba or tinder most efficiently to avoid fake profiles?

From the forum, I have also learned of relaxkiev and ukraine. cracker.com.

It is not clear to me how many of them are fake. What do you guys think?

I do like the idea of Mumba.

Ideally if it clicks with a girl, I would love her to show me around (again pay a small amount for her time), have dinner together and then spend the night with me.

Yet, I have to admit that I am not willing to spend days looking for one girl.

If you have Mumba profiles you would recommend, please let me know (I don't have PM). I would very much appreciate it.

[Wgmm99]

Thanks for taking the time to share your experience Volpone.

Well my current taxi / guide says he only knows apartments in the 1500-3000 uah range. He seems very invested in directing me towards the upper end apartments so I can only assume he gets a cut. I'm sure it's already been covered but if anyone cares to elaborate on how the guide / apartments relationship works that would be great. He took me to two places tonight. The first had two girls and was apparently 2000 uah for an hour. Neither were interesting to me. The second was 2500 uah. There were five girls to choose from. Sunday isn't the best night. Two were chubby and the other three were all pretty cute.

So tonight I paid 2500 uah and an extra 1000 uah for BBBJ. $130. The service was, as seems to be the norm here, excellent. I asked her if she kissed which was probably a dumb move as, of course, it turns out she does, but only for extra. Then she said the same for cunnilingus. I suspect giving her a kiss very early in the engagement, maybe even before she gets out of the lounge and into the room would be a smart move.

I'm remain very impressed by the quality of BJs over here. As someone who loves a long BJ this place is a heaven. Back in the FKKs in Germany I put significant effort into finding the girls who could give head for long time. Here it just seems to be a given that the BJ goes on for as long as you want. That in itself was worth the trip..

I'm curious which sites you used to post adverts for models. I am a photojournalist working in Ukraine full time and wanted to do some fashion and boudoir shoots and wasn't sure of best places to search for potential models.

[Tomas11]

Tomas11, can you please explain what is meant by channel? Where do you get plenty of phone numbers from semi-pros if you are not using Mamba. Ru?

Channel is a whatup chat group where you get the real info what girls are available right now, however you have to be in Kiev to use it, they don't like chit chat.

You have to speak Russian to get lots of numbers from semi-pros, don't want to ruin this source in a public forum, if you want PM me and I will exchange the info.

[BlissDps]

Cool. The post was about top mongering destinations though. Cluj is great for the massage joints about $40 for a happy ending massage from hot college chicks but the escort scene is horrible. Las Vegas is one of the worst in USA for mongering unless you have a lot of money to spend. But yes it's a great place for normal girls as a new crop comes in every weekend and they all want to party and fuck!

Yeah, as semi-pros, -who actually like to fuck but won't refuse any "gift"- are discussed frequently on here as well there might have arisen some confusion as I was merely referring to them with my top 10.

Pure mongering of course: Pattaya, Dominican Republic, Angeles, Kiev, Berlin, Tijuana.

[PhotoSlider]

I see you don't have PM currently. So from relaxkiev I've got a few numbers for places that have multiple girls. I'm sure I could ask them to send a few girls over to choose from. But how would you get numbers to call for the apartments? I have my taxi take me there at the moment, I could ask for their number when I'm there I guess.

Question to veterans. What can I use to pay for membership, while in Kiev? Are there local prepaid debit Visa cards available? I am understandably hesitant to use personal credit card. PM would be nice.

[PhotoSlider]

I see you don't have PM currently. So from relaxkiev I've got a few numbers for places that have multiple girls. I'm sure I could ask them to send a few girls over to choose from. But how would you get numbers to call for the apartments? I have my taxi take me there at the moment, I could ask for their number when I'm there I guess.

Certainly not from apartments. I got those numbers by long trial and error process from the usual sites like minuet. Biz, kievlady.com, etc. Over time you see that some phone numbers repeat again and again between multiple sites, while claiming they are independents.

Eventually some of providers earned higher rating in my book, while occasionally making poor quality deliveries. In fact one of the best young ladies was offered as a consolation after complaining about a major fuck up and me evicting the lazy stupid "vacuum cleaner" (in terms of her attitude towards money) right out of the bed and into the cold December street.

Those phone numbers come and go though. Also one night dispatcher is responsive and caring, and another night she doesn't give a flying rat's ass!

I don't mind spending 1000-1500/ HR to identify longer term prospects. My time is valuable. Some of the agencies behave like consolidators, as they call around and exchange favors, some are more self-contained and isolated, may even have specifically students for periods of time. Everything is rather dynamic though. Numbers disappear and new ones pop-up.

Speaking local language definitely helps, but the opposite shouldn't be a showstopper.

I am in Kiev now. And am open for a meeting on Saturday before 15:00 at Avalon. Sunday so far is also open for a synch up. You know by now how long "so far" is lasting in this city. Are you back from L'viv?

[Member #4722]

Yes, that might be true if you are solely looking for mongering, the cities I've mentioned are likely not to be the most perfect ones.

But if you just go on local dating sites eg badoo, tagged, etcetc the cities I've mentioned are pretty easy to get a non scamming girl who doesn't charge like crazy if she likes you at least a bit without asking immediately the next day for a macbookpro, botox treatment or norka jacket.

Cool. The post was about top mongering destinations though. Cluj is great for the massage joints about $40 for a happy ending massage from hot college chicks but the escort scene is horrible. Las Vegas is one of the worst in USA for mongering unless you have a lot of money to spend. But yes it's a great place for normal girls as a new crop comes in every weekend and they all want to party and fuck!

[Member #4722]

I am intrigued Rog123 , what is it you like so much about Kiev. Yes, I have been and I seen all the girls walking around with there 6 in High Heels etc. Some are admittedly very striking in there appearance, but I tend to feel they look best when you see then in the dark lights of a club or from across the road. LOL.

But I am genuinely interested why you think Kiev is the best.

Cheers.

Check my profile and read my reports.

[MagicSheep74]

Solid list this one is more legit than the other guy LOL. Been to a handful on this list but the other destinations are intriguing. I still like Kiev the best.

I am intrigued Rog123 , what is it you like so much about Kiev. Yes, I have been and I seen all the girls walking around with there 6 in High Heels etc. Some are admittedly very striking in there appearance, but I tend to feel they look best when you see then in the dark lights of a club or from across the road. LOL.

But I am genuinely interested why you think Kiev is the best.

Cheers.

[BlissDps]

I was asking magicsheep but thanks for trying. Your list is utter BS. I have been to Cluj three times and as everywhere else in Romania it's horrible for mongering. I lived in las Vegas for 10 years and the ladies charge double price there because it's a tourist town.

Yes, that might be true if you are solely looking for mongering, the cities I've mentioned are likely not to be the most perfect ones.

But if you just go on local dating sites eg badoo, tagged, etcetc the cities I've mentioned are pretty easy to get a non scamming girl who doesn't charge like crazy if she likes you at least a bit without asking immediately the next day for a macbookpro, botox treatment or norka jacket.

[Member #4722]

In no particular order. Cities below are better for mongering.

# Please don't say ' but when I am in Kiev I see lots of stunning women!! This forum is not about seeing stunning women, its about having sex with them for cash.

Barcelona.

Bangkok.

Berlin.

Madrid.

Frankfurt.

Zurich.

Jakarta.

Singapore.

Macau.

Prague.

Moscow.

Vienna.

Dubai.

Marbella.

Rio De Janiero.

Medellin.

Sao Paulo.

Manila.

Kuala Lumpur.

Pattaya.

Solid list this one is more legit than the other guy LOL. Been to a handful on this list but the other destinations are intriguing. I still like Kiev the best.

[Riina]

In no particular order. Cities below are better for mongering.

I agree with MagicSheep's list. It's impossible to put them in order, we all have different tastes. That said, Kiev is my favorite mongering destination and I have no interest in visiting his mentioned cities.