Kyiv

[Riina]

All comrades always remember this:

Most of the girl in Kiev, who deal with foreigners are the worst piece of shit you can find right now in the world as feminine person. The good one are not interested in foreigners or if they are good, they probably will have a circle around who will suggest them to spoil you. And maybe obtain something even them.

- be strong and commander. Be over rude in bed. 90% of this girl have already overdone anal sex because Ukrainian don't listen to them. With foreigner they pretend to act like saint Mary virgin. This not this not, no anal. Be strong and command the ride, they won't resist. They are mostly super weak person. Look in Russia the new law for abusing in family. (I say this cause till I was good and faithful and respectful all girl I met apart sporadic cases, showed they were the biggest piece of shit).

- don't overpay. They, apart a bunch of top escort, don't have nothing zero. They survive, dos of them sucking cock to ugly and much poorer than you foreigner. I had a girlfriend she had 4 guys relation at the same time, sometimes she met 3 of them the same day. And they sponsored her with less than 240 dollar month. I read 100 dollar hour. Are you crazy? Not even Poroshenko earn 100 dollar hour). If they not step back fuck off them. There 2 million pussy in Kiev.

- don't believe anything,. Any bullshit they tell you. Don't feel anything about their lies. (mom is in hospital bla bla.) all a bunch of bullshit. Never pay online, even for VIP card in mamba. Once you showed your weakness you are fucked up.

- once you decide to make a long term history you are really fucked up. So don't do that. Just fuck them.

As far as Ukrainian guy. Yes they love their guy, the new generation is better, but still no comparison for a good foreigner educate. Ukraine is a big village, with village mentality that's why they love each other. Even if most of Ukrainian are like them, piece of shit, not help just fuck, make children and disappear leaving the girl with baby and zero money. But Ukrainian girl never complaint about their guy. The devil are foreigners.

When I read that Europe won't open Schengen to this village country.

This is an insightful post.

[Remo965]

Good morning, Interesting your proposal, I am interested. I come to Kiev several times a year. If possible please contact me with a private message.

Thank you.

Married couple on Mamba:

In July 2016 I met, metro Družby Narodiv, a woman brought in mambas a similar announcement, with a pleasant woman of 37 years pictures about: and 'got a unwatchable than 50 years, very bad!. Mamba photos are very different from reality, as already written many times.

[Deer1234]

The problem is that this quality now ask 2000 with foreigner.

In Kiev the luck is only finding girl in street club supermarket. The pay scene is terrible and not worth the hassle and cold.

Thank you very much for your advice.

2000 UAH (74 USD) is still not too bad, if she is really of good quality.

I am interested in "street club supermarkets". What and where they are, and how you get a girl?

[Jekalat]

Some photos from their official account / rioclub. Kiev. Ua. There actually are girls work.

[BellBottomsDJ]

I have been on Mamba for about 4 days now, and I am running into married women that want to charge for having sex with them while their husband watches or joins (my choice). Wow! I am not sure if this is my thing, but one of these girls is smoking hot. Has anyone else ran into this? Is this normal in Kiev, or is this most likely a pimp posing as a husband. Profile says she has kids and is married. I just found it surprising so I was just curious about other guys thoughts on this.

[Jekalat]

Hello,

I am from Poland.

Today in Kiev was at a strip club RIO. I can say I was the first time in this city and the taxi driver took me to the club. Entrance free almost 200 UAH. ($ 7). Interior good. Girls a lot. Guard said that 150 8), I think probably to 100. Three floors, all dancing and changing. The girls sit down. Most interesting and beautiful. I left not one. $ 300.

Tomorrow friends lead to some new strip club, they say there is fun. I'll write tomorrow.

If you are interested club website.

http://rioclub.kiev.ua/en/

[Riina]

http://chicago.backpage.com/Therapeu...rvice/49303927

If anybody cares, Christal, first Ukrainian pro I have ever met in my US home city. There's no reason for girls like this to work in Kiev. Youthful, sucking dick bare back, eating cum, an army of generous men awaits them in the West.

This one was working in Hungary. The thing is that the best performers can easily put money in the bank, pay bribes for a visa, and go to any world city.

[LuisVega11]

Thank you very much for your useful information.

1800 UAH, which is 66 USD? Is not bad.

I will start with some famous night clubs.

Don't expect too much. I have the impression that the poorer they got the worst they became. I had fat cow asking that price and not lowering last time. You need to work hard to have a good quality. For good quality I am not referring to the club photo that has been posted in this pages. Those are for Ukrainian standard 4 maximum 5. The problem is that this quality now ask 2000 with foreigner.

http://www.kiev-x.in/viewforum.php?id=1

Here you can see that even Ukrainian guy pay 600 700 for ugly girl. For minimum service. In Kiev the luck is only finding girl in street club supermarket. The pay scene is terrible and not worth the hassle and cold.

[LuisVega11]

All comrades always remember this:

Most of the girl in Kiev, who deal with foreigners are the worst piece of shit you can find right now in the world as feminine person. The good one are not interested in foreigners or if they are good, they probably will have a circle around who will suggest them to spoil you. And maybe obtain something even them.

- be strong and commander. Be over rude in bed. 90% of this girl have already overdone anal sex because Ukrainian don't listen to them. With foreigner they pretend to act like saint Mary virgin. This not this not, no anal. Be strong and command the ride, they won't resist. They are mostly super weak person. Look in Russia the new law for abusing in family. (I say this cause till I was good and faithful and respectful all girl I met apart sporadic cases, showed they were the biggest piece of shit).

- don't overpay. They, apart a bunch of top escort, don't have nothing zero. They survive, dos of them sucking cock to ugly and much poorer than you foreigner. I had a girlfriend she had 4 guys relation at the same time, sometimes she met 3 of them the same day. And they sponsored her with less than 240 dollar month. I read 100 dollar hour. Are you crazy? Not even Poroshenko earn 100 dollar hour). If they not step back fuck off them. There 2 million pussy in Kiev.

- don't believe anything,. Any bullshit they tell you. Don't feel anything about their lies. (mom is in hospital bla bla.) all a bunch of bullshit. Never pay online, even for VIP card in mamba. Once you showed your weakness you are fucked up.

- once you decide to make a long term history you are really fucked up. So don't do that. Just fuck them.

As far as Ukrainian guy. Yes they love their guy, the new generation is better, but still no comparison for a good foreigner educate. Ukraine is a big village, with village mentality that's why they love each other. Even if most of Ukrainian are like them, piece of shit, not help just fuck, make children and disappear leaving the girl with baby and zero money. But Ukrainian girl never complaint about their guy. The devil are foreigners.

When I read that Europe won't open Schengen to this village country.

[BobSmith1]

Very good report. I just hate to see the guys flying in from the States or Canada, the chances are slim to get any quality girls, even if you are willing to pay a lot of money. They are just not there anymore or not interested. You have to have local knowledge and a lot of time to be successful Ukraine, even then it is highly unlikely. My friends had a lot of money and were good looking they were having a hard time. 3-5 years earlier, it was easy to hook up, times have changed.

Same as San Francisco bay area in general. During financial crisis, there were so many girls here. Now, you can spend 400/ HR and still may not find a good looking one. In Ukraine, the dating industry is becoming a mainstream industry. Agency from US responsible for bringing guys in. The agency in Ukraine is responsible bringing matches to the guys. That creates a lot of jobs. I can't give too much details. I may even open a agency there too.

[Stevie69]

And as I have said before, about half of that goes to the house.

I was walking near ocean plaza, when a guy offered me to visit a flat in Baseina, I was curious and I accepted just to take a look, but once there I saw 5 stunning beauties, I got a blonde blue eyed one, 1700 grivnas one hour, it was 3 AM and she so sleepy, anyway she did a good job, for sure 4 hours earlier I would get an excellent one, first massage, then BJ with condom and fuck, I was thinking those flats are so bad, but I changed my mind so fast.

[Stevie69]

Yes, fun can still be had, and for a lot less. 2500-3000 UAH is still double the going rate. Remember, high class VIP pros in places such as GIA start at 3500 UAH and half of it goes to the house.

I thank you very much for the feedback. This clears some things up. I am still puzzled about your comment that "The days of a traveler economically justifying a pussy run to Kiev is way over". If you feel I am not looking at this the same way as you are, or I am getting ripped off, but I just got a mamba account last night, spent 3-4 hours on there and have 10-15 confirmed $100 per hour or $300 12 hour a night good looking girls ready to meet and asking when I am available and even for my address. They are asking $150 USD mostly, but $2500-3000 UAH seems to close the deal. Am I missing the point you are telling me? With all respect of course. I am curious what you mean that its over.

[Deer1234]

I have been hitting Mamba pretty hard with a good reply rate once I figured it out (it's worth the $10) to filter the language and the "sex" option so you don't deal with girls that want to get into relationships and are there for PFP. The good looking ones are asking $100-150 per hour mostly or $300 a night seems to work when I offer. I am talking each one down to $100 USD for an hour pretty easily, but I haven't tried lower.

Thank you very much for your information. In fact, mamba seems difficult for me: I cannot figure out which photo is fake and which photo is a real photo, but taken a decade ago.

Anyway, I will start with some famous nightclubs, and try to negotiate it at 100 - 300 for a night.

[DramaFree11]

Very good report. I just hate to see the guys flying in from the States or Canada, the chances are slim to get any quality girls, even if you are willing to pay a lot of money. They are just not there anymore or not interested. You have to have local knowledge and a lot of time to be successful Ukraine, even then it is highly unlikely. My friends had a lot of money and were good looking they were having a hard time. 3-5 years earlier, it was easy to hook up, times have changed.

[Deer1234]

Now, I think you should position for 1 hour first. 1500-2000 uah is enough for the first meeting...

Thank you very much for your useful information.

1800 UAH, which is 66 USD? Is not bad.

I will start with some famous night clubs.