Kyiv

[Volpone]

Speak for yourself. I have been coming back and forth to Ukraine for six years. I am in love with the culture and culture of the country too. I like the roughness of the country. And that in this country they like men to be men, and it is a mans job to seduce his girl. A friend of mine described to get an ukrainian girl is like training a horse. It is very different that in western countries. And that is a skill you have to learn.

Over the years I met maybe 50 people from the forum. Almost of them has been cool guys that I like to have a drink with.

I do not go to apartments to buy prostitutes. I will say maybe only 10-20 percent of the guys I met from Forum hire girls this way. Most like the hunt. And if it comes to it probably do not mind giving the girl some sponsor money or gifts. After all this is the slavic way. While older men can have young devushkas half our age.

And no I will not give you any adresses. You will find them anyway quite easily. Men will stand on Kreschatyk around Arena and give you businesscards for these brothels. You can just ask for them to show you the places. And they will take you to a place with 15-20 girls to choose from.

But again most of us are not here for this. And this is not a prostitution forum. What do you say Jackson?

Mea culpa! Sorry, if I integrated you and it wasn't your point of view.

When this forum didn't exist, I was already strolling and hunting in Kiev and in some other cities in Ukraine. However I didn't know, that you just need to stay outside the center to find bunches of girls attracted and craving to meet foreigners. Good to know! That remembers me the years around 2000.)))).

About the addresses, well I can do the job by myself on Ukrainian websites or forum. By the way flats are not only around Bessarabski, where a guy takes the newbies by the hand and lead them to some private flats. You can find them also in Petchersk, near Olimpinskaia, Xreshatik, Maidan, Politecknichni institut, Plocha Lva tolstovo and some other places in Kiev in center or outside. The one I mentionned are the one I visited last year and 2 years ago.

I think your 10-20% versus 90-80% is surely an acurate estimation. Interesting also to see that you have some addresses of private apartments.

[NoMarriage]

Hello all degenerate mongers,

I will be in Kiev in a week for 3 days for some debauchery. I was hoping you experienced members here would share your contacts with me: I am looking for blond women. Please send me a private message and I will appreciate it greatly.

I was hoping for the same. I hate going not knowing a thing. Please PM me too with the info.

Thanks.

[MasterHoMaster]

Hello all degenerate mongers,

I will be in Kiev in a week for 3 days for some debauchery. I was hoping you experienced members here would share your contacts with me: I am looking for blond women. Please send me a private message and I will appreciate it greatly.

[Riina]

Speak for yourself. I have been coming back and forth to Ukraine for six years. I am in love with the culture and culture of the country too. I like the roughness of the country. And that in this country they like men to be men, and it is a mans job to seduce his girl. A friend of mine described to get an ukrainian girl is like training a horse. It is very different that in western countries. And that is a skill you have to learn.

Over the years I met maybe 50 people from the forum. Almost of them has been cool guys that I like to have a drink with.

I do not go to apartments to buy prostitutes. I will say maybe only 10-20 percent of the guys I met from Forum hire girls this way. Most like the hunt. And if it comes to it probably do not mind giving the girl some sponsor money or gifts. After all this is the slavic way. While older men can have young devushkas half our age.

And no I will not give you any adresses. You will find them anyway quite easily. Men will stand on Kreschatyk around Arena and give you businesscards for these brothels. You can just ask for them to show you the places. And they will take you to a place with 15-20 girls to choose from.

But again most of us are not here for this. And this is not a prostitution forum. What do you say Jackson?

I agree with you but ultimately it's the prostitutes that keep most men from having a miserable time in Kiev.

[Danish Traveler]

Speak for yourself. I have been coming back and forth to Ukraine for six years. I am in love with the culture and culture of the country too. I like the roughness of the country. And that in this country they like men to be men, and it is a mans job to seduce his girl. A friend of mine described to get an ukrainian girl is like training a horse. It is very different that in western countries. And that is a skill you have to learn.

Over the years I met maybe 50 people from the forum. Almost of them has been cool guys that I like to have a drink with.

I do not go to apartments to buy prostitutes. I will say maybe only 10-20 percent of the guys I met from Forum hire girls this way. Most like the hunt. And if it comes to it probably do not mind giving the girl some sponsor money or gifts. After all this is the slavic way. While older men can have young devushkas half our age.

And no I will not give you any adresses. You will find them anyway quite easily. Men will stand on Kreschatyk around Arena and give you businesscards for these brothels. You can just ask for them to show you the places. And they will take you to a place with 15-20 girls to choose from.

But again most of us are not here for this. And this is not a prostitution forum. What do you say Jackson?

It seems to me that you are a bit off topic. Guys here are looking for sex, for newbies that agree to have sex at the first meeting. They don't want to learn Russian and to seduce, to court a girl during weeks or months. They usually stay here for a few days or a few weeks.

If you have been living here for 2 years, you surely know some flats with pretty girls for a decent price. You could give us the addresses in private. You also might know some Russian websites, that we could use to meet non-pros, amateur girls that are looking for paying sex. That would be useful on a prostitution forum, far more than finding a wife or a girlfriend.

[NoMarriage]

Hi all,

I just got back from a wonderful 5 week trip to Medellin and visited Cartagena for 1 week. I know a lot in Medellin about the casas, the street actions in various places, and the prices for all nighters. Because I have learned Spanish, I consider getting a good deal. I get all nighters for 100 dollars and 2 or 3 hours for 50.

I wanted to know how Kiev, and how Ukraine is like. Prices for outsiders who don't speak the language, 2 their attitudes vs girls in Medellin, or just whatever you want to throw out there. I can post pics of hot girls in Medellin later on but any comparison or help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

[Volpone]

Hello,

I have now been living in Kiev for 2 years and I speak some Russian.

- plus the girls have very sweet and conservative personnalities, not like the feminist bitches so common in the West.

As a result, if you know how to approach the women, it is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Especially the girls that do not know English and there are many, especially out of Kiev city center.
Of course, the girls that know English and know how to market themselves out of Ukraine can command international prices.
Nearly all of my Ukrainian businessmen friends have wives or girlfriends that were born after they graduated from High School.

See here my present girlfriend. She is 25 and I am more than twice her age.
Regards.

Bimbo Boy.

It seems to me that you are a bit off topic. Guys here are looking for sex, for newbies that agree to have sex at the first meeting. They don't want to learn Russian and to seduce, to court a girl during weeks or months. They usually stay here for a few days or a few weeks.

If you have been living here for 2 years, you surely know some flats with pretty girls for a decent price. You could give us the addresses in private. You also might know some Russian websites, that we could use to meet non-pros, amateur girls that are looking for paying sex. That would be useful on a prostitution forum, far more than finding a wife or a girlfriend.

[Volpone]

Shit happens That's the risk of having little time and trying to line up a few dates. One can screw it all.

Still some gems out there available for digging.

Not really. I don't have little time. I have been here for 3 weeks. I have plenty of time. For me it's not a big deal. I have many old contacts, so if I want, I can have sex every day for a price around 1000 UAH for 1-2 hours.

Imagine if I were counting on Mamba and I had no old contacts, I could wank. Just be aware guys, that Mamba does not work like before, and by before, I mean even this last Summer was still pretty good as I could still get some new talents. Of course if you pay 100 $ and up for 1 hour, you can still get some new one and of course for a lower price you can still get some cheapest one that look like less than average (4,5 or 6 in quality).

[Tits_Lover]

I got her phone number and I could talk with her on Viber. So she agreed to come to my place at 6 pm. Guess what, she never came and she never explained why she changed her mind. It could not be the price as we never talked about it. Some non-pros do that, they don't want to talk about price. So I just called a girl among my contacts and I had a good time for a good price.
I am happy to have some old contacts, otherwise I could wank or going to a massage salon.

Shit happens That's the risk of having little time and trying to line up a few dates. One can screw it all.

Still some gems out there available for digging.

[Sorbonne]

The quality girls that are serious about selling their pussy would have no reason to prostitute themselves in their own poor country. They can now easily establish reputations and relationships in Western cities.

But I'm not after such pros to begin with.

The question is what will happen to semi-pros and normal girls.

The bright side is that if you have girlfriends in Kiev, you can more easily bring them to EU countries.

[Sorbonne]

The quality girls that are serious about selling their pussy would have no reason to prostitute themselves in their own poor country. They can now easily establish reputations and relationships in Western cities.

Sounds true.

Such enterprising pros could create their own websites and come to spend 3 months (at a time in EU.

That's a scary thought.

[Bimbo Boy]

The quality girls that are serious about selling their pussy would have no reason to prostitute themselves in their own poor country. They can now easily establish reputations and relationships in Western cities.

The quality girls that are serious about selling their pussies are trying to hook a local wealthy man, that will provide for her. When he dumps her, it is usually with the gift of an apartment and a Porsche Cayenne.

Why go for western salarymen when you can get an rich local man?

[Bimbo Boy]

Hello,

I have now been living in Kiev for 2 years and I speak some Russian.
I can tell you that Kiev is a paradiise for mongers because:
- the girls are the prettiest in the world.
- foreigners are still in high value.
- there is a very scarce supply of interesting local men.
- plus the girls have very sweet and conservative personnalities, not like the feminist bitches so common in the West.

As a result, if you know how to approach the women, it is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Especially the girls that do not know English and there are many, especially out of Kiev city center.
Of course, the girls that know English and know how to market themselves out of Ukraine can command international prices.
Nearly all of my Ukrainian businessmen friends have wives or girlfriends that were born after they graduated from High School.

See here my present girlfriend. She is 25 and I am more than twice her age.
Regards.

Bimbo Boy.

I gave the bad news so I want to contribute also.
For instance: I have been working in Qatar since December-2012 and I just completed 4 years.
Qatar does not allow any Ukraine citizen to visit Qatar.
Of course there are Ukrainian people here:
-most of them works for Qatar Airways as crew.
-others works in hospitality sector in hotels.
I have plenty of Ukrainian girlfriends here but they are so smart because thousands of Arab millionaires are in service of these diamonds in the dessert. I observed that these girls helps their citizens to come / work in Qatar but the girls which arrives Qatar has already discovered their overestimated value in Qatar Stock Market. I am following around 500 crews in instagram, Arab rich are opening champagne in dohas nights clubs which is minimum 250 usd.
To sum up:
The girls which promotes themselves in instagram, has the enough savings to leave Ukraine.
The other girls which can contact foreigner via internet, can save a few hundreds to travel. Or they can find a fool monger like me all around the world and this fool will pay the cost of travel.
The remaining will be just a silly lady even if they are pretty, I would not prefer to be together such an idiot.
R. I. P. Ukraine mongering.

[EnricoMacias]

I gave the bad news so I want to contribute also.

For instance: I have been working in Qatar since December-2012 and I just completed 4 years.

Qatar does not allow any Ukraine citizen to visit Qatar.

Of course there are Ukrainian people here:

-most of them works for Qatar Airways as crew.

-others works in hospitality sector in hotels.

I have plenty of Ukrainian girlfriends here but they are so smart because thousands of Arab millionaires are in service of these diamonds in the dessert. I observed that these girls helps their citizens to come / work in Qatar but the girls which arrives Qatar has already discovered their overestimated value in Qatar Stock Market. I am following around 500 crews in instagram, Arab rich are opening champagne in dohas nights clubs which is minimum 250 usd.

To sum up:

The girls which promotes themselves in instagram, has the enough savings to leave Ukraine.

The other girls which can contact foreigner via internet, can save a few hundreds to travel. Or they can find a fool monger like me all around the world and this fool will pay the cost of travel.

The remaining will be just a silly lady even if they are pretty, I would not prefer to be together such an idiot.

R. I. P. Ukraine mongering.

[CallSign Papa]

Only time will really tell as to what the lifting of visa restrictions will do to talent in Kiev. Ultimately, the top tier girls won't be affected, they already travel whenever they want thanks to their network of eager sponsors.

I'm not really sure that middle tier girls are really going to be too in demand in the EU. Go to any major city in Europe and they're replete with a damn good display of hot girls. And let's not forget, for every girl that leaves Kiev for distant shores, there is a steady supply of village girls waiting to fill her place, either at universities or offices in the capital.

The simple fact is that (as I have stated repeatedly) for the first time visitor, Kiev is not a good destination. The language, the rising prices, the growing resentment and suspicion towards sex tourists will all create frustration. And we haven't even gotten to Trump and his buddy Putin, "there may be trouble ahead".