Kyiv

[Riina]

I have been in Kiev now 8 times and I always wanted to go to Rio but I never did. I don't know why I should pay some hundreds of for bitches which I can get much cheaper in my country. When I am reading the experiences here with girls from Rio I also can say, that the quality mostly is worse. I also have not been in one of these known bars. Next time I want to go to the Caribbean Bar. But mainly because of the music there.

The charm of Kiev girls or Ukrainian girls is to have something like a "real" girlfriend for some hundred a month. To do all the things which you are doing with a normal girlfriend including travelling in other countries. These girls are 6, 7 and 8 and if you have enough time and enough charm and you are able to pretend a common future you also can get a 9.

The times had changed in the last decades. The 9 and 10 are gone or they have their rich clients but there are about 23 millions women in the Ukraine and some millions of them are in the age between 18 and 28. There are still enough girls who are waiting for us but the search is much more complicated and needs more time. And of course you don't find them in Rio.

Thank you sir, good simple insight into Ukraine. Their may well be less hookers now in Kiev, but my gut instinct tells me the girlfriend thing is better.

[Rammstein2]

I have been in Kiev now 8 times and I always wanted to go to Rio but I never did. I don't know why I should pay some hundreds of for bitches which I can get much cheaper in my country. When I am reading the experiences here with girls from Rio I also can say, that the quality mostly is worse. I also have not been in one of these known bars. Next time I want to go to the Caribbean Bar. But mainly because of the music there.

The charm of Kiev girls or Ukrainian girls is to have something like a "real" girlfriend for some hundred a month. To do all the things which you are doing with a normal girlfriend including travelling in other countries. These girls are 6, 7 and 8 and if you have enough time and enough charm and you are able to pretend a common future you also can get a 9.

The times had changed in the last decades. The 9 and 10 are gone or they have their rich clients but there are about 23 millions women in the Ukraine and some millions of them are in the age between 18 and 28. There are still enough girls who are waiting for us but the search is much more complicated and needs more time. And of course you don't find them in Rio.

[CallSign Papa]

Can any one give information about girls in Odessa for an Asian guy.

Don't know Russian / Ukrainian language.

Is there any way to get girls without any cheating.

All I need is oral sex from hot girl and blowjob.

Here's a thought, try the Odessa thread.

And don't forget to post a review after.

[SickhHeart]

Can any one give information about girls in Odessa for an Asian guy.

Don't know Russian / Ukrainian language.

Is there any way to get girls without any cheating.

All I need is oral sex from hot girl and blowjob.

[InsomniacTales]

I got more numbers and dates from classy Moscow girls in one evening of bars and clubs than a week of trawling Kiev. The Moscow girls quote literature, speak other languages, and love sex too. You've got to dress well, and they appreciate culture and irony. In Kiev almost every girl is a non discerning scamming prostitute who's spent so much time hearing the BS hype about Ukrainian women and wives online that she's got a vastly over inflated idea of her worth. Waste of time. Cheap. And a bloody depressing dreary place on the way down. Once you've tasted St Petersburg and Moscow you won't look back

In Ukraine from 7 days.

I decided to give this hole of ass country a last try after seven month and I know it was useless.

All the last reading are correct in part, wrong in other. The results anyway is a big bull. It country, with the worst woman you can find on earth. I don't know how people still keep defending this girls and women. The greedy product of modern era. I have been all over east, and nothing come near these person. And most of all they don't even fuck. Russian girl loves cock, Poland even *10-. These Ukrainian only loves fuck the other people.

I leave aside the distinction from village girl to high end pro. All the same, few changes.

When I read reports like those in the last 2 pages I laugh. People collecting 100 of contacts in mamba and fuck these girl for 300 500 gryvna, not even Ukrainian can fuck fat cow for these money.

Stay away from Ukraine. It's total scam and lose of time and money. I'm talking about not paying. The pay is even worst. Walk in Kiev. Only 60-75 foreigners walk with devuska in these days. Because wedding agency. Rest of foreigners even those great looking are in the same boat...

[Riina]

Has anyone tried the $60 "slave" upgrade at Gia? I assume this is where the girl is submissive since they also have a different dominatrix option. Just wondering what this consists of if anybody has tried it.

Want to splurge on Gia one night but wow can get expensive real fast.

I have no idea what "slave" means but I do know both Natasha and Zlata let me rag doll them the whole session for no extra charge. A few of my actions were a bit degrading, but they went with it enthusiastically and never once buzz killed me at any turn. I do take special attention to not bruise or scratch them.

[Member #4722]

Has anyone tried the $60 "slave" upgrade at Gia? I assume this is where the girl is submissive since they also have a different dominatrix option. Just wondering what this consists of if anybody has tried it.

Want to splurge on Gia one night but wow can get expensive real fast.

[CallSign Papa]

Maybe you just want to keep all foreigners out so you can enjoy your own UA pussy paradise.

I can only say that Luis Vega's experience of Kiev (and Ukraine) is very different from mine. I'm not sure if Russian language skills make a massive difference, but for me it really has changed much in the last 2-3 years. But then I never went there expecting to bang supermodels for peanuts.

I'm back this week with plenty of contacts that I didn't get round to meeting from my last trip. And any girl that asks for a gift before you've met her needs to be kicked to the curb quick.

[Riina]

Stay away from Ukraine.

Maybe you just want to keep all foreigners out so you can enjoy your own UA pussy paradise.

[YellowPaul]

In Ukraine from 7 days.

I decided to give this hole of ass country a last try after seven month and I know it was useless.

All the last reading are correct in part, wrong in other. The results anyway is a big bull. It country, with the worst woman you can find on earth. I don't know how people still keep defending this girls and women. The greedy product of modern era. I have been all over east, and nothing come near these person. And most of all they don't even fuck. Russian girl loves cock, Poland even *10-. These Ukrainian only loves fuck the other people.

I leave aside the distinction from village girl to high end pro. All the same, few changes.

When I read reports like those in the last 2 pages I laugh. People collecting 100 of contacts in mamba and fuck these girl for 300 500 gryvna, not even Ukrainian can fuck fat cow for these money.

Stay away from Ukraine. It's total scam and lose of time and money. I'm talking about not paying. The pay is even worst. Walk in Kiev. Only 60-75 foreigners walk with devuska in these days. Because wedding agency. Rest of foreigners even those great looking are in the same boat.

And I have good girl even last week in Kiev. Model type, but the feeling in these days is of a country completely spoiled, disaster brought by europe and Obama.

Last cherry pie. A girl I chat in VK, one that makes video in cam I discover, putting vibrator in pussy. We chat long time. She said come in krivoy dog and we fuck you bring me gift and some money. Ok. I planned to come to black sea and I wanted to discover some new city.

I come in this place forgotten by god. She not appeared, today send message she's not a **** and she not do sex for money. But if we want meet for coffee and I give her the gift I bring we can.

I said fuck off you and that cow who grow you!

Don't believe nobody. Kiev and Ukraine are worth zero, down zero.

The only pro is the cost is super cheap. But that's all. And in addiction these pat ethic village girl. Because Ukraine is big village even if they have Louis Vuitton or drive expensive car they are super cheap girl, compared to high end check or Russian girl for example, you see these girl treat these man from Ukraine that dress with t-shirt and crocs shoes, like king. They treat them like shit and receive the best treatment. Girl do everything for this handicapped man. Unbelievable.

Have still 9 days to go moving to Odessa luckily my old time girl come with me from Kiev and I will have some relax, but Ukraine will see me in the next life. Even if gryvna fall to 100 against euro.

Russia and Poland will be my next base, all the Prussian girl I banged are much better than any other girl and 2 of them come to me at their expenses. Ukrainian girl even if you spend 1000000 gryvna would be heavily pissed off if you didn't offer them 35 gryvna for taxi. Beggars.

Agreed with most of what you said. It's the new normal.

5 years ago I had village girls (Mykoliv, Poltava, etc) coming for a few days to Kiev and they paid they own way and never asked for a penny. Back then you actually got normal girls off of Mamba.

Are you buying any gifts for your GF? Paying for any visa's?

[LuisVega11]

In Ukraine from 7 days.

I decided to give this hole of ass country a last try after seven month and I know it was useless.

All the last reading are correct in part, wrong in other. The results anyway is a big bull. It country, with the worst woman you can find on earth. I don't know how people still keep defending this girls and women. The greedy product of modern era. I have been all over east, and nothing come near these person. And most of all they don't even fuck. Russian girl loves cock, Poland even *10-. These Ukrainian only loves fuck the other people.

I leave aside the distinction from village girl to high end pro. All the same, few changes.

When I read reports like those in the last 2 pages I laugh. People collecting 100 of contacts in mamba and fuck these girl for 300 500 gryvna, not even Ukrainian can fuck fat cow for these money.

Stay away from Ukraine. It's total scam and lose of time and money. I'm talking about not paying. The pay is even worst. Walk in Kiev. Only 60-75 foreigners walk with devuska in these days. Because wedding agency. Rest of foreigners even those great looking are in the same boat.

And I have good girl even last week in Kiev. Model type, but the feeling in these days is of a country completely spoiled, disaster brought by europe and Obama.

Last cherry pie. A girl I chat in VK, one that makes video in cam I discover, putting vibrator in pussy. We chat long time. She said come in krivoy dog and we fuck you bring me gift and some money. Ok. I planned to come to black sea and I wanted to discover some new city.

I come in this place forgotten by god. She not appeared, today send message she's not a **** and she not do sex for money. But if we want meet for coffee and I give her the gift I bring we can.

I said fuck off you and that cow who grow you!

Don't believe nobody. Kiev and Ukraine are worth zero, down zero.

The only pro is the cost is super cheap. But that's all. And in addiction these pat ethic village girl. Because Ukraine is big village even if they have Louis Vuitton or drive expensive car they are super cheap girl, compared to high end check or Russian girl for example, you see these girl treat these man from Ukraine that dress with t-shirt and crocs shoes, like king. They treat them like shit and receive the best treatment. Girl do everything for this handicapped man. Unbelievable.

Have still 9 days to go moving to Odessa luckily my old time girl come with me from Kiev and I will have some relax, but Ukraine will see me in the next life. Even if gryvna fall to 100 against euro.

Russia and Poland will be my next base, all the Prussian girl I banged are much better than any other girl and 2 of them come to me at their expenses. Ukrainian girl even if you spend 1000000 gryvna would be heavily pissed off if you didn't offer them 35 gryvna for taxi. Beggars.

[InsomniacTales]

Protocol sums up perfectly the condition of the Kiev of 2016. The place has been flooded with cash and foreign blokes. The clubs are cynical and used to the big dollars flowing in from the East and the West.

Moscow, though slightly more expensive is now far more rewarding, many more beautiful girls, more available, less competition, and they are less cynical and less jaded. Good level headed attitude. I just had 7 days there. Getting dates with pretty and ordinary non pros girls was easy, and my last three evening were easily filled with dinner followed by the rest. Almost how the Western and Scandinavian countries used to be 20 years ago. They haven't been sullied with too much feminist nonsense yet. Just a ride in the metro and we ordinary looking blokes in our 40's got smiles and even blown kisses. Asking directions and was always answered with a smile. The food is good and good value. The massages are superb and full on for just 40 dollars. The strip clubs are pure hedonism with stunning girls everywhere. Take out from the clubs is quoted at an expensive 200-300 dollars but after the first 2 nights of scouting the freebies will fill your time. The only problem is the visa. But maybe that's why it's still preserved.

What happened.

1. Instagram. Hot girls know their worth, easy to get noticed, get Turks, Arabs, Swiss, Germans, French throwing them money over the internet, inviting to luxury trips and they take it.

2. Russia. The invasion made sympathetic visas much easier to get.

3. Economic support. Money is flowing into Kiev from abroad, and of course being siphoned off the top the way that only Ukrainians know how to do so efficiently. That money gets spent in clubs, on girls, on all the luxuries. The hot girls are just not in need anymore the way they used to be..

[MartinReunion]

I had to renew my "licence"; done. So I can give the number.

Unfortunately your PM facility isn't anywhere near as real.

[MartinReunion]

Hi,

Trying again, I had to renew my licence.

Tried to PM you for that girl's number without success. Will be in Kiev this weekend and would really appreciate it.

[MartinReunion]

Usually the first time entering Schengen must be in the country that issues the visa; then after you can travel into any Schengen country.

I forgot to mention that if a girl has have a a job letter and bank documents then 90 day schengen visa should only cost about $200, everything can be arranged but costs money without documents.

Just be aware of schengen issues that sometimes they may be required to enter and leave from the country issuing the visa.

This happened to me a few years ago when bringing in girl to Prague.