Kyiv

[Jojosun]

This seems now to be the correct link to the Kaiserhof review on Tripadvisor:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaura...rhof-Kiev.html

Does anybody know the name of the restaurant/s where girls from Rio most often want to go in order for them to receive the cut?

This is the place where you sit and can order food from 3 restaurants connected to each other. I just wanted to bring your attention also to this restaurant/s so you can avoid it/them.

They are not so outrageously expensive, but you know the girls are getting the cuts.

Thanks Sorbonne for the link.

I am guessing the restaurant where Rio girls want to go to must be light food and expensive, think Japaneesy sushi. Either owned by Rio or closely associated with them.

The girls from the top Go Go club (Baccara) in Bangkok would want to do the same trick as well by wanting to stop at a expensive restaurant on Soi 7 owned by Baccara.

I never let a girl choose a restaurant.

[LuisVega11]

This seems now to be the correct link to the Kaiserhof review on Tripadvisor:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaura...rhof-Kiev.html

Does anybody know the name of the restaurant/s where girls from Rio most often want to go in order for them to receive the cut?

This is the place where you sit and can order food from 3 restaurants connected to each other. I just wanted to bring your attention also to this restaurant/s so you can avoid it/them.

They are not so outrageously expensive, but you know the girls are getting the cuts.

Maybe some mafia branch? Or casta?

Anyway the point is never go to any place if she invite. Ever. She will be only interested in money and probably will have a cut on the bill. Especially if she talk good English she well dressed with luxury bag.

There are thousand of people living out of these in Kiev and Ukraine. Included wedding agency prostitution gold digging scumming. All those girl with scuba, surcoat, iPhone 5 6, iPad, are part of this scheme.

But the problem is the mentality.

[Sorbonne]

How a dinner date in a Kiev restaurant could turn into an expensive scam. Personally I've never been scammed in Kiev or Donetsk.

2 Places to avoid anyway, Kaiserhof and Tarantino Grill according to tripadvisor.

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g294

Kiev Scam".

Review of Kaiserhof.

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g294

Complete Scam".

Review of Tarantino Grill & Wine Bar.

Requests for gifts and additional expenses by Mamba girl are at your discretion and how to handle the situation if she brings up the subject.

This seems now to be the correct link to the Kaiserhof review on Tripadvisor:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaura...rhof-Kiev.html

Does anybody know the name of the restaurant/s where girls from Rio most often want to go in order for them to receive the cut?

This is the place where you sit and can order food from 3 restaurants connected to each other. I just wanted to bring your attention also to this restaurant/s so you can avoid it/them.

They are not so outrageously expensive, but you know the girls are getting the cuts.

[LuisVega11]

Ukraine is country of cheaters so be careful my friend s. To pull $$$ from you they can do any dam thing.

I agree. That's why I only meet 18. University student with big eyes smile.

I avoid anything over 22 especially with iPhone and fashion brand bag.

My 3 time in Kiev began with a meeting a Kaiserhof. I was still a novice in Kiev. Made a meet from mama with a fleshy girl. She said to meet at a karaoke.

As soon as I heard karaoke I know it was a scam but I wanted a bang as soon as arrived.

She wait me in that place I recognize now as called Kaiserhof, it's near shot Rustaveli behind a sushi.

We took 2 salad and one beer and she took a glass of wine. She sing a song for me. Typical botox girl not even my type.

Then arrived the bill. 120 dollar. I was shocked and realized all was organized.

A big bodyguard escorted me to a bancomat, like written well in trip advisor, to take money. I tried to point the wine was not in the menu, they said the same thing written in trip advisor, new menu, new wine bla bla.

Actually I felt lucky cause I read now in tripavisor they could have billed me even 500 dollar. Back to the place girl was gone clearly. I message her the worst offense I have ever written to a person.

But from that moment nobody fucked me in this scum city because I follows simple rule.

- avoid any girl with iPhone an luxury bag.

- avoid any girl over 20.

- always choose the place mostly pizzeria or restaurant in big mall.

- never believe them. Never ever. I have to deal also with Russian girl in Moscow and I have to say that Ukrainian are a race different from any I have ever met, Russian girl love cock much more.

[Spark78]

Ukraine is country of cheaters so be careful my friend s. To pull $$$ from you they can do any dam thing.

How a dinner date in a Kiev restaurant could turn into an expensive scam. Personally I've never been scammed in Kiev or Donetsk.

2 Places to avoid anyway, Kaiserhof and Tarantino Grill according to tripadvisor.

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g294

Kiev Scam".

Review of Kaiserhof.

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g294

Complete Scam".

Review of Tarantino Grill & Wine Bar.

Requests for gifts and additional expenses by Mamba girl are at your discretion and how to handle the situation if she brings up the subject.

[YellowPaul]

Do not contact CheetahKiev.

You do certainly not need a body guard here in Kiev if your staying in the main areas. I guess if you were going into the woods somewhere or a shady alley in some bad part of Kiev then I suppose some bodyguard would be needed.

I've walked the streets 1 am-3 am and everything is perfectly fine in the main area of Kiev. $100 dollars a day just to see the apartment girls are crazy. My "pimp" (which is what I call him) does the exact same thing without the bodyguard stuff and shows to me apartment flats free of charge (I'm guessing he gets a cut from the babushka there). I only have to pay around 800-1500 grivna for the girl I choose. Plus if I don't like any of the girls in the apartments then he will show me to other places free of charge without any problems. He just gets his cut from the babushkas that are showing off the girls.

I would not see this guy if I were you. Just pm me or another ISG member and we'll get you a contact. That is what another ISG member did for me and I would gladly help out any other members on here. My "pimp" would most certainly like more customers so I'll be glad to give out his info if you PM me.

I agree with pretty much except with this caveat.

If you can look a like a local you will likely have less problems. I have seen Turkish and other obvious looking foreigners get stopped while German and other Caucasian guys have little problems.

I have been denied twice entry into Shooters and was accosted by 3 policemen right in front the Zara saying racist crap, they decided to take a pass when I started calling my Embassy's emergency number.

That said you don't need a "bodyguard' but I would advise use taxi's at night and use common sense.

[Iceberg27]

Hi,

Can I ask about your trip in Kiev? Any help please?

Help for what?

[JGomez90]

Kiev local tour guide + taxi driver + body guard service.

I have been Kiev about a year, having local connection.

We are offering a local tour guide service, arrange you visit reliable service providers. Our tour guide has own car and speak fluent English and Russia. All we ask is $100 per person every day / night. And two to four persons a group. So at least you won't alone. Why don't you just try first night, and most local working girl only lives in residential flat, not speak any English. So you need our taxi / translator / body guard service.

PM, if you interested.

Do not contact CheetahKiev.

You do certainly not need a body guard here in Kiev if your staying in the main areas. I guess if you were going into the woods somewhere or a shady alley in some bad part of Kiev then I suppose some bodyguard would be needed.

I've walked the streets 1 am-3 am and everything is perfectly fine in the main area of Kiev. $100 dollars a day just to see the apartment girls are crazy. My "pimp" (which is what I call him) does the exact same thing without the bodyguard stuff and shows to me apartment flats free of charge (I'm guessing he gets a cut from the babushka there). I only have to pay around 800-1500 grivna for the girl I choose. Plus if I don't like any of the girls in the apartments then he will show me to other places free of charge without any problems. He just gets his cut from the babushkas that are showing off the girls.

I would not see this guy if I were you. Just pm me or another ISG member and we'll get you a contact. That is what another ISG member did for me and I would gladly help out any other members on here. My "pimp" would most certainly like more customers so I'll be glad to give out his info if you PM me.

[Jojosun]

Pure lip service.

" http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...EU-Brussels-Uk".

Senior EU source said: "It may look as if we're ignoring the Dutch voters, but we have to keep our word to Ukraine, which has met the conditions."

The confirmation comes after European leaders including Angela Merkel and Francois Hollande indicated within hours of the Dutch result being announced that Brussels was likely to simply ignore it."

Albanians already enjoy visa free travel to the EU and Albania is a lot poorer than Ukraine.

http://www.politico.eu/article/alban...a-free-travel/

[Riina]

The latest "European Commission. Press release.

European Commission proposes visa-free travel for citizens of Ukraine.

Brussels, 20 April 2016" https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=cr&...eyEdHUaqicgJgC#q=visa+free+for+ukraine.

Unlike my regular Donetsk girl, I am not so excited.

They reckon it will come into effect by Sept. " The European Union could lift visa requirements for Ukrainians by the second half of 2016".

http://www.kyivpost.com/article/cont...u-404227.html.

Pure lip service.

[Jojosun]

The latest "European Commission. Press release.

European Commission proposes visa-free travel for citizens of Ukraine.

Brussels, 20 April 2016" https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=cr&...eyEdHUaqicgJgC#q=visa+free+for+ukraine.

Unlike my regular Donetsk girl, I am not so excited.

They reckon it will come into effect by Sept. " The European Union could lift visa requirements for Ukrainians by the second half of 2016".

http://www.kyivpost.com/article/cont...u-404227.html.

[Sean EZ]

Anyone on the ground today / tomorrow PM me. Looking for a buddy to hit some clubs.

S.

[CzarNicholas]

Me and one of my friend was there for Kiev Salsa Spring Festival. Rented an apartment on Vlodky Vasilivska Street. It was 200 total for two bedroom and one guestroom. 4 days. Quite nice. I got a freebie from Tinder. And had a dinner with another. My only regret is not to push so much on Freebie action. I was in a desperate and lousy mode when I have arrived there but I scored easily with a Ass. Prof from National Academy. I had dinner in the Stupid Georgian Restaurant on The Vlodka Vasililvska Street and such a good restaurant doesn't have alcohol to serve. Can you believe? Thanks god I have convince the professor to come to my apartment and shared a bottle of Champagne. I didn't ignored the P4 p scene. I went to Penthouse because it was just a few blocks away of my apartment. I will always remember the small elevator guy or woman maybe I am not sure. The only authanticity with this place is this eleavator thing. I am not sure even it is going horizontally maybe just closing and opening door. Or maybe I was so drunk. I really didn't like the place. It doesn't deserve the Penthpouse name. Very small and less number of girls. None of them gave me a sheet while I was sitting there. THen I decided to move Rio but taxi driver told me it is closed on 5 o clock. And as you can guess offered me a salon drive and stupid me accepted. The salon was also one block away of my apartment. There was a selection of 5 girls mostly 7 and 8. I picked one of them for 100 USD which was double price of market rate. She was ok but no DFK and no BBBJ. These are all killing my mood..

Hi,

Can I ask about your trip in Kiev? Any help please?

[Iceberg27]

Me and one of my friend was there for Kiev Salsa Spring Festival. Rented an apartment on Vlodky Vasilivska Street. It was 200 total for two bedroom and one guestroom. 4 days. Quite nice. I got a freebie from Tinder. And had a dinner with another. My only regret is not to push so much on Freebie action. I was in a desperate and lousy mode when I have arrived there but I scored easily with a Ass. Prof from National Academy. I had dinner in the Stupid Georgian Restaurant on The Vlodka Vasililvska Street and such a good restaurant doesn't have alcohol to serve. Can you believe? Thanks god I have convince the professor to come to my apartment and shared a bottle of Champagne. I didn't ignored the P4 p scene. I went to Penthouse because it was just a few blocks away of my apartment. I will always remember the small elevator guy or woman maybe I am not sure. The only authanticity with this place is this eleavator thing. I am not sure even it is going horizontally maybe just closing and opening door. Or maybe I was so drunk. I really didn't like the place. It doesn't deserve the Penthpouse name. Very small and less number of girls. None of them gave me a sheet while I was sitting there. THen I decided to move Rio but taxi driver told me it is closed on 5 o clock. And as you can guess offered me a salon drive and stupid me accepted. The salon was also one block away of my apartment. There was a selection of 5 girls mostly 7 and 8. I picked one of them for 100 USD which was double price of market rate. She was ok but no DFK and no BBBJ. These are all killing my mood.

Next day I made some RTFF and headed to Star Nosorog Strip Club. Even the I was one of a few customers. (It was a very slow day) a 19 years old stripper brighten my day with her passionate DFK's and all the other. The only missing things was oral and penetration during this 400 GRV private dance session. She sat me few for maybe an hour with 2 orange juice. She also insisted to have Champagne and idiot me said no because I was thinking 800 GRV was only for one glass. Juice was 250 GRV and I paid 750 GRV for 3 of them. On my last day I again go to Star Nosorog and another 19-20 years old sticked me. Since I was so saturated after my freebie action I rejected her. It was also due to she need a shower. But as far as I understand it is always possible there to have a nice company of 20 years old girls with a small money. I went to Rio at about 3 o clock on Monday night. It was changed since my last visit on 2010. What is the logic separating all the place and make 5-6 small strip clubs instead of one big? I felt so boring there. The bill came as written by hand and about ten percent service was written. I didn't like that. There are nice strippers but they are just after popular guys there. I will visit Kiev once more I think but will push more on freebie scene. My friend dated with 6-7 girls and make love with 2 of them and 1 handjob from another.

Regards.

[TheKnight]

An early GF of mine was on smotri, com long before Chaturbate existed.

No reason to think it is a scam. Other than now she knows her worth, and you could spend a lot more than a younger student would ask for.

Just take the usual precautions, and fix the deal before you end up spending many $ for no poonani.

Wondering whether my brother mongers have had any similar experiences. Due in to Kiev at the end of the month and so duly started the trawl through Mamba. Making little headway, it's getting tougher, when I got a reply from an attractive (8/9) lady in her mid 20's. Chat then followed and she seemed like a regular girl, no mention of money and happy to just talk. She asked me to send further photos which I did and then when I asked for her to send me some she suddenly announced she was a webcam model. Sent me her link but made it clear it was up to me whether I looked. Well of course I couldn't resist although I've never been into the web cam scene. I have no objection to P4P when it comes to Mamba girls.

She turns out to be even more beautiful in the flesh.

Still writes to me as before and says she's keen to meet for dinner as we previously agreed. In all respects seems a true find but worrying if I'm missing something. Is this just another scam? Have other mongrels similar experiences? It's a new one on me.