Kyiv

[Epicurus]

I prefer July over September. Weather was better, girls better dressed and it seems more girls in the park and on the street. Now they all have to go to college, or they have to be somewhere, not just walking around. I also like to be busy during the day and none of my current contacts can, only in the evening or in the weekend. And the quality of the massage parlors during the day is pretty bad.

It's gotten so bad, I even start to look at GIA. What's up with so many photos of the girl's feet? Is it trendy now to have a foot fetish in Kiev?

[Riina]

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Any input from the veterans of this thread is welcome as to what's going on here with this girl's acton.

Hi, I should have been more clear on my last post to this subject. You are most likely dealing with a salon / brothel and not an agency like Gia. You mentioned that agencies send girls on time and that's generally true. But when you are dealing with a salon, they will delay delivering the girl until it is convenient for them. The problem with Kiev salons is they cater to locals and the quality is generally low. Theirs no issue for them to fancy up a druggy streetwalker and send her over to your place. As a general rule, quality girls want nothing to do with cab drivers or men that might suspect what they do.

I'm a Kiev novice, so take it with a grain of salt.

[Raffzahn]

This afternoon this girl arrived in an unmarked black car (the car looked quite new), which she called a taxi.
I told her again: "I think you are an agency! You and this unmarked black car makes me nervous!" Tell the black car / taxi to leave. Shortly, she left with the black car

Dude,

I really don't understand what you're expecting. Taxi is a general term for having someone drive you. In Kiev (and most of FSU) it's perfect normal to stop a car en route and haggle for a ride.

Every Lady. Really, everyone, not just working girls. Got several numbers of people who earn some additional dough by doing privat taxi. I'd be rather suspicious when a normal person show up with a marked taxi.

And if she's a working girl, she usually has a driver who's even waiting to pick her up later on. That's pretty much standard.

I aslo asked her why did she take the taxi if she didn't have any money to pay for it and why didn't she just take the metro.
She didn't say anything but just kept on asking if I have money and if I'll pay the taxi.

Man, that's extreme rude. Taking the Metro is considered low. And way low beyond anything expected of a foreigner to think of. Real Ladies don't take the metro. That's for old babushkas.

It's good to look for your money, but not taking a (private) taxi in Kiew produces you as a super-cheapnik. You've promised to pay her some large sum money to stay with you, and even before it starts, you're unable to cover some minimum expense? Even in business terms that's suspicious, and for sure not a way to treat someone where you expect a good experience afterwards. Asking her about taking the metro has been quite an insult and with 'not hearing' your question, she just played cool. Treat her with _some_ respect.

Serious, 100-200 Griwna for a taxi is fine for most inner city routes, not any kind of scam. And thinking about it, I guess she felt for sure more safe to find any way to pay the driver later on, than to stay. Maybe he got to taste her for the ride.

[Horny Monger]

The meeting was arranged a day before. A 21 year old girl, who speaks bad English with a heavy accent, called me and asked me on the phone half an hour before the meeting that she wants to call a taxi to come to me, and she wants me to go out to pay the taxi driver when she arrives in the taxi at my building. This is after we have agreed on the price for the meeting and the time of the meeting.

Doesn't it sound a bit weird? (The girls I had in the past paid the taxi first; then I paid them; they never asked me to go out and pay the taxi driver!) What's going on in her head?

The girls I had in the past asked for taxi money only after they came in to my apartment and before they left my place but never in addition to the price of the meeting.

Any input from the veterans of this thread is welcome.

This afternoon this girl arrived in an unmarked black car (the car looked quite new), which she called a taxi. She looks quite plain, skinny and older than her reported age.

I asked her telling the taxi to leave then I'll meet her and give her the taxi money but she insisted that I give her the taxi money to pay the taxi then meet. She claimed she didn't have any money, but how did she left with the same taxi after 25 min without any money? I aslo asked her why did she take the taxi if she didn't have any money to pay for it and why didn't she just take the metro. She didn't say anything but just kept on asking if I have money and if I'll pay the taxi. At the end, I ask her: "Are you an agency?" and she said she didn't understand. I told her again: "I think you are an agency! You and this unmarked black car makes me nervous!" Tell the black car / taxi to leave. Shortly, she left with the black car.

Any input from the veterans of this thread is welcome as to what's going on here with this girl's acton.

[DudeNextDoor]

I was in Kiev for 5 nights last week.

First night; I arrived to Kiev late and didn't want to waste time to arrange a meeting with mamba girls because it would be a last minute effort. I went to Buddha bar instead. There were two tables with 5 ladies, I assumed that they were pros because they were looking at me very often. One of them was very pretty. I smiled at her, invited her to the bar with my eyes but she didn't make any move. I finished my drink and went to their table. After a little chat she asked 500 usd for all night, I offered 300 and agreed. As I said she was very pretty but service was not good. No DFK, oral with condom etc. I should have discussed the details of the service before the deal. Waste of money!

Similar thing happened to me. I was staying the hotel above the Buddha bar. I went downstairs, The escorts were coming in a taxi and picked up by man walking down from hotel immediately and go upstairs. It looked like they were arranged and guys were picking them up once they arrive. Just a Hi, how are you, nice to meet you chit chat then they go upstairs.

I went in the lobby and noticed this smoking hot babe in tight jeans walking from the Buddha bar to the lobby area. I saw her sit on a side table away from everyone. I made eye contact and she was smiling to me. After a minute or so looking each other and smiles, I ended up stopping by her table to say HI. She asked me if I wanted to sit down. Pretty good English. She looked better when I am next to her. She asked me what I was doing in Kiev and I told her it was a business trip and now I am looking for some fun. She quoted 500 usd all night, 300 usd 1 hour. I had a feeling she was a pro and been to this hotel and bar all the time. I told her I didn't have that much money and left her table. I went back to my table and finished my coffee. I had to bang her, she would have get on my top 10 list. She was hot. I decided to make her an offer and see if she goes for it. I told her, she would worth the money she asks for but I only have 100 usd cash. Of course she did not accept. I went upstairs to my room and before I go to bed, I decided to go downstairs and see if anyone take her up on her offer. She was still there. I told her my offer was still on if she agrees. She asked if I would give her 100 USD plus 200 grivnas. Of course I would. She is only asking for 10 usd more.

She started to dance and strip on me while we were in the elevator. Once we are in the room, it was a hot sex and a few showers after she left with her 100 usd and 200 grivnas. I asked her why the 200 grivnas, she said she was going to pay people downstairs for letting her use the lobby to pick up clients. And she will save the 100 USD for her dream trip to USA.

[Horny Monger]

I didn't see any pros in the club but I had many eye contacts with other girls while we were dancing or I was going the restroom. (unfortunately when you go alone nobody looks, when you go with a girl every girl looks).

Over the Independence weekend, there were loads of people around where I live, and I was walking out and back with a barely legal hot looking small blond with big tits around Kreshschatyk. Everybody was looking at us as we walked out the building, along the side street and on Kreshschatyk. I felt rather uncomfortable, as I didn't want to arouse any resentment; so I started walking slightly ahead of her. I did manage to f*ck her tight small pussy twice over two nights, which she stayed on her own initiative and didn't want to leave (I had to ask her to leave on the third day.) She didn't seem to like having sex or interested in sex or maybe she's very new to sex because she tried numerous times to close her legs as I started to penetrate her. She didn't ask for any money; so I am not complaining. Maybe she just like to hang out. No BBBJ. Just short f*cking and CIP. But she's a complete GFE though; she even feeds me snacks and we shared snacks between our mouths as they came together. Her pussy is so tight as soon as I put it inside her, I felt like cumming. Twice the same.

When I am alone walking, some girls/women will look. When I am walking with this hot blond, everybody looks.

[Horny Monger]

Of course quite many mambas girls start at 150 $ for 1 hour or 2 hours. Do they look really better? Will they service be ok? Not sure. What's the point to come to Ukraine, if you pay nearly the same as in Germany! In Germany for 100 Euros, you can have one hour sex with a pretty girl, either private or brothels.

I fully agree!

Absolutely No POINT!

One might as well save airfare and accomodation if he pays nearly the same.

[Horny Monger]

I had the same experience and you can read my post in Kiev escorts.

I refused to pay and 2 girls came up in my apartment and I paid 200 UAH for the taxi in my apartment, what is anyway too much. As I explain in Kiev escorts.

Thanks for your input. I read your report.

But I am not dealing with an agency; at least, I don't think so.
I'll find out soon.

[Horny Monger]

No pussy, no pay.

HA. . HA. . HA. . This is great!

Couple of weeks ago, a 25 years old MILF came, didn't put out her pussy and asked me for 450 UAH plus cigarette money, and I gave it to her because she looked pathetic and was practically begging for money! I didn't know she has a child because in her profile, she didn't say. I guess I was feeling charitable (throwing away 500 UAH) because I wasn't really interested in have sex with her anyway! Though I would f*ck her that night because she was there. But she wasted the whole night and. . . . . . which I wasn't really happy about wasting. Couple of days later, she called and wanted to come again; I basically ignored her.

[Volpone]

The meeting was arranged a day before. A 21 year old girl, who speaks bad English with a heavy accent, called me and asked me on the phone half an hour before the meeting that she wants to call a taxi to come to me, and she wants me to go out to pay the taxi driver when she arrives in the taxi at my building. This is after we have agreed on the price for the meeting and the time of the meeting.

Doesn't it sound a bit weird? (The girls I had in the past paid the taxi first; then I paid them; they never asked me to go out and pay the taxi driver!) What's going on in her head?

The girls I had in the past asked for taxi money only after they came in to my apartment and before they left my place but never in addition to the price of the meeting.

Any input from the veterans of this thread is welcome.

I had the same experience and you can read my post in Kiev escorts.

I refused to pay and 2 girls came up in my apartment and I paid 200 UAH for the taxi in my apartment, what is anyway too much. As I explain in Kiev escorts.

[Horny Monger]

Sounds not like a Pro. More like a girl who would like to open new ways of income but doesn't dare to. The internet makes it easy to get into contact. Now terminal broken, so she tries it as a last resort. Could be great, but the odds are against. Usually these on / off girls are engulfed by scruples and may even run during sex before you finish.

Stay away,

H

Thanks for your reply.

I guess she wants the taxi to be paid on arrival; so she won't be left holding the bag if she decides to run in the middle or the beginning of the meeting.

But why doesn't she just take the metro as I am next to Metro Kreshschatyk? She said she's only 5 km away.

[Horny Monger]

Nope, there are the forest fires that have shrouded the city in smoke caused by illegal loggers. Then to avoid being caught they burn down the forest to hide the theft.

Thanks for your reply.

[Raffzahn]

Thanks for your input, but she doesn't sound like an agency because I tried to arrange a meeting with her several times and each time she either delayed the meeting by 2 to 3 hours or moved it early by 1 hour then cancelled; so we haven't met so far because of her irratic changing of time. Agencies send the girls fast and generally on time.

Sounds not like a Pro. More like a girl who would like to open new ways of income but doesn't dare to. The internet makes it easy to get into contact. Now terminal broken, so she tries it as a last resort. Could be great, but the odds are against. Usually these on / off girls are engulfed by scruples and may even run during sex before you finish.

Stay away,

H

[DruidFire]

Thanks DF for a great report. I think you had the best of Mix& Match opportunties in Kiev.

And with the second bedroom and threesomes, you've definitely now earned the title of " Distinguished Monger ". Join the club. LOL.

Also a 9 from Rio for US $ 300 for 3 hours not bad either. How much did you spend inside the club?

Glad you like the report I can't recall precisely but I'm pretty sure it was about 600 Gryvnas or about 30 USD. That was for 2 fresh squeezed orange juices, a Perrier and a coffee / espresso for the girl and I guess the entry fee. I didn't order a dance, but she sat at my table for about 30 minutes before we left. Also, I sat at the VIP lounge, so not sure if there is an additional charge for that or not. You can't call it "cheap" but for a strip club I didn't think it was bad at all. The key point is there doesn't seem to be much incentive for the girl to order a bunch of drinks while having no intention of leaving with you. At least not that I can tell. By comparison, take a look at an elite Manilla club like Air Force one or Classmates. Take out was the same 300 $ for 3 hours. Drinks were much more expensive and you are hassled to buy a lot of them. Lady Drinks were the norm and you are expected to tip male waiters and club managers. And Manila as way more messed up than Kiev (although I would happily monger in both.).

So overall, I liked Rio. I'd go again on another trip but definitely not everyday. Too expensive and other girls are much more GFE. At least compared to the one I picked, who was very nice but not GFE nice.

[JesusPuras]

I was in Kiev for 5 nights last week. I started working trough mamba 15 days prior to my visit. I collected approximately 20 mobile numbers and agreed to meet in Kiev.

First night; I arrived to Kiev late and didn't want to waste time to arrange a meeting with mamba girls because it would be a last minute effort. I went to Buddha bar instead. There were two tables with 5 ladies, I assumed that they were pros because they were looking at me very often. One of them was very pretty. I smiled at her, invited her to the bar with my eyes but she didn't make any move. I finished my drink and went to their table. After a little chat she asked 500 usd for all night, I offered 300 and agreed. As I said she was very pretty but service was not good. No DFK, oral with condom etc. I should have discussed the details of the service before the deal. Waste of money!

On the rest of my visit I decided try my chance with freebies. I was able to meet 5 of 20. Most of the girls told that they are busy, sick etc. (not a surprise). 3 of them were non-pros. But they were not pretty as in the profile photos plus I didn't feel like I can bang them in 1-2 days so I passed. One of them was a working girl she asked 200 for all night but she was 6-7 so I passed that one as well. I was loosing my hope on freebies and start thinking about going to Rio but I thought I have to eat dinner alone anyway so I decided to invite the last girl to Odessa Rest. As a company (by the way this a really good rest. It was close to Alfavito hotel where I stayed). A 24 years old 8 arrived. Her English was good enough to communicate. We ate and drunk a bottle of wine, I was expecting her to ask money but she didn't. She asked me if I would like to go to club. I said definitely yes. We went to a club called 'Sorry Babushka'. It is a kind a retro club not too much teenagers but the atmosphere was perfect. I didn't see any pros in the club but I had many eye contacts with other girls while we were dancing or I was going the restroom. (unfortunately when you go alone nobody looks, when you go with a girl every girl looks). %80 of the club was female as usual in Ukr. And I didn't see any foreigner in the club. I highly recommend this place if you are after freebies and milfs. Honestly I was still expecting her to ask money before we go into business but she didn't. I took her to the hotel. She slept with me that night and went to home in the morning. We met the next afternoon and I bought her some presents (I felt like I have to). I wish I could meet with her earlier in my trip. Any way I like Kiev. I can't bang a beauty like this free in my hometown that's for sure.