Kyiv

[Epicurus]

Hi dear mongers,

I am travelling again to Kiev next month for a 3-4 day stay. I've been to Kiev many times and visited many places. Starting from back then Riverpalace to the'Lux, Arena and Shooters. The experiences I had in Kiev are the best I had. I've been to Thailand, Brazil, Dubai, USA, Ethiopia and many other places for Mongering.

This time I have a dream that I want to fulfill (isn't it about fulfilling dreams? I would like to shoot a movie with a Pornstar. I searched at the common Escort Pages and found only a few who are offering Photo / Filming in their services. And as I am only staying for 3-4 days, this adventure has to be planned well.

Can anyone guide me here, how to find Agencies who provide Pornstars in Kiev? I will also need a Cameraman. How would you plan this adventure?

I was thinking about placing an add in Ukrgo but it seems that only Cyrillic language is accepted. Which I can't write or read.

Any suggestions?

Happy mongering,

Easyease

If you are looking for a pornstar, a cameraman and a good location then perhaps it is better to go to the Czech Republic or even Holland. There are many online Czech model agencies with girls willing to do porn. They also have Ukrainian and Russian girls in their database.

Kiev is more amateur I think, I haven't found similar pornstar model sites based in Ukraine. However, I have done some videos with girls in Kiev and surprisingly many were willing to do it because it excited them, although I knew most of them for an extended period and they liked and trusted me and felt comfortable with me. Also interesting is that while most don't like me doing a close-up fucking them where you can see their face, they were comfortable me taking a video while they were blowing me. One was a closet exhibitionist; she wanted to do it in front of the window. The windows were from the ceiling to the floor and it was night and we had the lights on. It was an apartment on Krasnoarmiskaya, so not some obscure street. She insisted on sucking me in front of the window and then me to fuck her first in profile and then with her face and boobs pressed against the window. At one point she even opened the window and was hanging out of it with her upper body while I held on to her hair, asking me to pull her hair. It's a pity I didn't have some magic pills and already drank half a bottle of georgian champanski, because I was really knackered after one hour and asked for a small pause. We went to bed and talked while she kept playing with my dick to bring it back to life. Unfortunately I fell asleep and when I woke up it was already morning. Thankfully I can always rely on morning wood, but we only had time for one quickie, because she said she had to go to work.

And one girl was willing to do it for only 500 UAH more.

Already looking forward to returning to Kiev in September.

[Epicurus]

You know, I'm a well dressed, educated, well travelled gentleman. I treat women politely and with respect. Of course women love this an it opens doors for you. However, there will be those who take advantage of that and push the envelope, such as this *****. The only warning signs I had was how quickly she wanted to meet, insisted she pick me up in a taxi and how she picked the venue. The caf we went to was expensive by Kyiv standards.

I know what some guys on this site are undoubtedly thinking: "OK, Gopnik, maybe you're just some bum with no style, no brains and failed to rein this devochka in. ' Maybe you're right. Maybe you're wrong. All I can tell you is if you decide to meet this *****, you've been warned. She wants to take and give nothing.

Druid, you want my advice? Tell whatever girl you decide to meet to meet you in a place of your choice, or to come to your flat (if she is a semi-pro, she'll probably want to meet you in public first). Don't let her pick you up in a taxi and go somewhere of her choosing. That was my number one mistake. I should have known better. Also, make sure its clear between you what you are both looking for.

Hi Gopnik,

I am curious, why did you deviate from your usual tactic, what made you do that?

And you know, look on the bright side, such experiences makes you appreciate the good experiences even more.

[I Am God]

Hi,

Thanks for info about Topface, hadn't tried that. Kinda looking for more of a listing of University girl for hire ads. 300 - 600 uah per hour for straight forward services. Much prefer getting projects and studying done than wasting any energy on vampire women. Yes, have thankfully been with numerous pretty "freebies" internationally, yet I also could have likely made billions or trillions of dollars from all the effort women have vampired from me.

At this point I know most super model type women seem to be pros or semi pros. So obviously better to skip right to the fun with cute girls and then I can be productive professionally and creatively also.

Hello God.

Try using VKontacte and definitely Mamba. Women won't just fall at your feet or kneel before you. You need to work the fields. Learn to speak in Russian and Ukrainian and meet some women at a cafe or on the Kreschatyk. You have to take the time to blend in and take in their culture. Observe and understand the people before you dismiss them as "boring". How long have you been in Kiev, anyways? You can dismiss my criticism too, but trust me no matter where you go, people will ignore you. I don't know if you are God, but you certainly do have a God complex.

FiddyCent.

Hi,

Women had better start bowing down at My feet! Thanks for recommendations, I tried mamba and know about VK. When I said most Ukrainian women seem boring, I meant that I haven't yet found a sexually adventurous dance club in Kyiv or Odessa yet. Basically a good dance club should be similar to an orgy. Haven't seen anything like that in Kyiv or Odessa.

Thanks in advance!

[Gopnik]

One of the benefits of living full-time in Kyiv is that women off of the grid become available to you. For example, the office I use to work at here in Kyiv was located on Kreshchatyk Street but was subsequently moved when the war at Maidan hit its peak. At the time we laid off a number of staff in order to downsize until the smoked cleared and the economic and political situation of Ukraine became clearer.

One of those laid off was a pretty secretary named Darina who was in her second year of university. Before she left, I added her to my Facebook and we stayed in touch. I always wanted to bang the shit out of her, but since she had a boyfriend and her English is terrible we never really communicated at great length. Until now.

Darina told me she isn't working and she's single. We were chatting online last week while she as at the beach with a female friend and she sent me the attached photo of her. I broached the subject of us dating and she seemed genuinely interested. We met for drinks last Friday in Obolon and despite really getting along and her looking like a sexy 21-year old, we discovered her English had digressed so much that it was impossible to talk, so it was google translate all night and rubbing thighs. We parted politely and I went home with a raging hard on for her.

I sent her a message on Facebook Saturday asking if she'the like to meet again. She said she would but because her English is so poor it makes real dating seem impossible. I agreed. However, I thought I would throw the idea of sponsorship out there. She said it was out of the question, which really didn't surprise me. So, I dropped the idea and hoped she wasn't offended by my offer and if she ever had any questions about it, just ask. Darina replied that she was in no way offended.

I woke up yesterday morning and found a message from her. She asked me for further details about my offer of sponsorship. Game time! So, I poured on the charm, told her I never normally do this sort of thing, I would treat her like a princess and that I was very attracted to her. Someone her age usually makes 200 USD a month in Kyiv, I told her, and I would gladly give that to her for a first meeting and 100 USD for subsequent meetings plus gifts here and there. As she is not paying rent (she lives with her mother) she could quickly start a savings account.

Darina told me she thought I was really cute and was very interested but needed time to consider. I said 'take your time'. To be continued.

[FiddyCent]

Hi,

Recently moved to overrated Kiev. Yes, the women here are way overrated.

So now kinda coping with the decision to stay here for a month or more.

My body is handsome, mildly athletic, and many people in Ukraine have spoken Russian to me, seemingly believing that I spoke Russian native.

Have gone out dancing and met girls in day. Gotten phone numbers yet girls have been way too boring.

Where to find listings of University girls that are actually pretty and available for hotel visits at reasonable local prices?

Thanks in advance!

Hello God.

Try using VKontacte and definitely Mamba. Women won't just fall at your feet or kneel before you. You need to work the fields. Learn to speak in Russian and Ukrainian and meet some women at a cafe or on the Kreschatyk. You have to take the time to blend in and take in their culture. Observe and understand the people before you dismiss them as "boring". How long have you been in Kiev, anyways? You can dismiss my criticism too, but trust me no matter where you go, people will ignore you. I don't know if you are God, but you certainly do have a God complex.

FiddyCent.

[TickleBoobs]

Where to find listings of University girls that are actually pretty and available for hotel visits at reasonable local prices?

Mamba and Topface.

[TickleBoobs]

OK, I didn't know it is illegal, question is: is it illegal for professionals and someone like me who films for himself and does not distribute it?

Import, filming, storing with the intent to distribute it. If you share your home video with a friend even for free it's illegal, if you don't share it, well that's selfish!! Haha. If you don't share it with others and keep private then it's not a violation of an Article 301 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine: http://www.legislationline.org/docum.../16257/preview.

I checked Craigslist, the jobs in "video, photo and. Whatever" and found people advertising for amateur actresses. Perhaps my approach will go from there, if it is not illegal. What do you think?

Something like that?

http://ukraine.craigslist.org/tfr/5121050627.html

It's near-perfectly worded, though I have no idea if this is actually works in practice.

[I Am God]

Hi,

Recently moved to overrated Kiev. Yes, the women here are way overrated.

So now kinda coping with the decision to stay here for a month or more.

My body is handsome, mildly athletic, and many people in Ukraine have spoken Russian to me, seemingly believing that I spoke Russian native.

Have gone out dancing and met girls in day. Gotten phone numbers yet girls have been way too boring.

Where to find listings of University girls that are actually pretty and available for hotel visits at reasonable local prices?

Thanks in advance!

[EasyEase]

It's like most people here don't know this.....snip.... classifieds website and I don't recommend you ever post this ad because filming pornography is illegal in Ukraine. .

OK, I didn't know it is illegal, question is: is it illegal for professionals and someone like me who films for himself and does not distribute it?

If it is illegal for an amateur, then I wouldn't do it.

I checked Craigslist, the jobs in "video, photo and. Whatever" and found people advertising for amateur actresses. Perhaps my approach will go from there, if it is not illegal. What do you think?

Easyease

[TickleBoobs]

I was thinking about placing an add in Ukrgo but it seems that only Cyrillic language is accepted. Which I can't write or read. Any suggestions?

It's like most people here don't know this site exists. You could take a look at OLX which is really popular classified website here in Ukraine (no English site, though). But I doubt you'll find someone willing to do it on the classifieds website and I don't recommend you ever post this ad because filming pornography is illegal in Ukraine. As a local I'd rather start with pros from Mamba and escort agencies and by posting the request in relevant groups in most popular social network VK. For Russian-speakers it makes sense to browse through fashion models portfolios on job search websites or make a job posting on such websites (without specifying certain details).

[TickleBoobs]

What is considered adequate to tip doormen or similar in clubs and strip clubs? Thanks.

Tipping is optional here. In general, $1 (UAH 20) is appropriate for tipping a doorman. More tip is commensurate with more service.

[CastOnThis]

What is considered adequate to tip doormen or similar in clubs and strip clubs? Thanks.

You don't tip those people.

[Gremlin Og]

What is considered adequate to tip doormen or similar in clubs and strip clubs? Thanks.

[CallSign Papa]

But I just didn't like either of the 2 girls I tried.

What were their names?

[EasyEase]

To make my recent post more interesting, I am attaching an example.

Regards,

Easyease