Kyiv

[UrbanCowboy22]

I can confirm that take out prices at Rio were $250 a few weeks ago. Privates dances were 400 uah. A few of the salons near the center were 1 hour for $50 or 1600 uah.

Apollo,

Is 6000 UAH the Rio club's new rate for taking a girl out for three hours? I was wondering what they would do and whether they would adjust their prices upwards. Their rate was $300 USD / three hours for several years. Now if their rate is 6000 UAH, that is about $250 USD in today's exchange rate. That means the price has gone down from $300 USD to $250 USD for three hours. Please confirm the amount of the take out fee and the time period for that fee at Rio. Thanks.

From what I see, the rates on the escort websites like top-modals.com etc. Have not changed much, despite the decrease in value of the Ukraunian hryvna.

[Iceberg27]

The "leechers" will suck all your $$ just partying and promising. But no

Ukrainians say: "It is easy to get a girl in Odessa. But difficult, to keep ".

In Arkadia, my favourite was "Itaka". Other prefer "Ibiza". These are the places in July / August, where you find the most beautiful girls in UA.

But not to forget: Many of them already have well-off "sponsors". Although some pros around, too.
In the past, during this time quite a lot of foreigners in Odessa. This might be different this year, because of political reasons.
And, because of Crimea now "off limits", Odessa might be even busier with locals during summer time.
I start to think .... <grin>

Dear Otto,

I was in Odessa last summer and was in Evpatoria previous year.

For me especialy aftter war Odessa is ten times much more preferable place both compared to Kiev and Evp.

I also think Kiev is a boring place for non mongering activities.

Odessa is great. One of my friend moved to a close village and he said Moldovians didn't come this year because of war so war effects no of foreign tourists. But locals increasing but andıt tourists they are the people who had moved there because of war. I. e from Donetsk.

So if the situation is same war will be serving the brave mongers like us. Less competition.

[ApolloCreed]

Apollo,

Is 6000 UAH the Rio club's new rate for taking a girl out for three hours? Their rate was $300 USD / three hours for several years. Now if their rate is 6000 UAH, that is about $250 USD in today's exchange rate.

They told me 6000 OR 300 $.

[Reiner Otto]

What do you mean by "leechers. " Sounds like you speak from experience. Where is the main Odesa scene and how does it compare to Kiev?

The "leechers" will suck all your $$ just partying and promising. But no shot.

Just google for "Odessa Arkadia". And you will see. Also check on youtube. Arkadia is the outdoor scene, at the beach, during June / July / August / Sept. At night, super discos or bars, during daytime

like cafes, with private beach.

Cheap accomodation in Odessa during July / August might be difficult to find, though. Better try to book a hotel on the web in case of Juyly/August.

Ukrainians say: "It is easy to get a girl in Odessa. But difficult, to keep ".

In Arkadia, my favourite was "Itaka". Other prefer "Ibiza". These are the places in July / August, where you find the most beautiful girls in UA.

But not to forget: Many of them already have well-off "sponsors". Although some pros around, too.
In the past, during this time quite a lot of foreigners in Odessa. This might be different this year, because of political reasons.
And, because of Crimea now "off limits", Odessa might be even busier with locals during summer time.
I start to think .... <grin>

[LilJoey]

I just returned home from my trip in Kiev.

Some notes.

- Even with the euro being 23 hryvnia and not 32 like 2 weeks before, everything was so cheap!

I mean restaurants, bars, transport, etc.

- I visited Rio. The girls were from average to great looking! The stuff were very very polite and willing to help you! I asked 2 girls to take back to my apartment and they asked for 6000 HR.

Too much, but in case of one little brunette, worth it. Unfortunately she went home with another guy before I decide.

- I was speaking with a mamba girl. We decided to meet and I proposed to go have a dinner and see what after. Maybe we'll end in my apartment.

To which she replied that she would love that, and I could offer her a gift in form of money. She asked for 2000 HR.

When I asked for a friend for my friend she said she didn't have one but proposed group sex, which "she had never tried", without asking more money...

Apollo,

Is 6000 UAH the Rio club's new rate for taking a girl out for three hours? I was wondering what they would do and whether they would adjust their prices upwards. Their rate was $300 USD / three hours for several years. Now if their rate is 6000 UAH, that is about $250 USD in today's exchange rate. That means the price has gone down from $300 USD to $250 USD for three hours. Please confirm the amount of the take out fee and the time period for that fee at Rio. Thanks.

From what I see, the rates on the escort websites like top-modals.com etc. Have not changed much, despite the decrease in value of the Ukraunian hryvna.

[TheWhatever]

I have found this website with very good looking independent escorts thought it's literary 2 and 3 times more expensive than other escorts, why?

http://mister-x.org

[Manny51]

July is a bad idea for Kiev, because of holidays. Until end of June makes sense, because of students party.

Odessa / Arkadia in July is great. However, many "leechers" .

Visit the aircraft museum in Kiev, close to Zhulyani airport. Rent a car for short trips. A daytrip to the museum of strategic rockets:

Visit the underground control of a former SS-18 ICBM missile base. And sit at the keyboard for lauch.

(About 20 km from highway Kiev / Odessa, direction Nikolaev).

What do you mean by "leechers. " Sounds like you speak from experience. Where is the main Odesa scene and how does it compare to Kiev?

[Reiner Otto]

What do you mean by students party? T

Students are in mood for drinking and party in the bars and discos, because end of school / university on 30-June.

Sponsors welcome.

Pick up the more-or-less pros on Kreshatik, close to Mc Donalds. You only need to sit on one of the benches: They will find you.

Personally, I like the discos or bars, to pick up freelancers. Or freebees, in case of luck. Although they also expect "presents".

Depending upon the time to spend, last 2 weeks of June in Kiev, and then 2 weeks in Odessa/Arkadia.
Best: You pick up a student in Kiev, and take her to Arkadia. She will appreciate it !!!!!
(Girls in Arkadia are terrific ! But they know it themselves, and suck your $$$$$$ very often).

[ApolloCreed]

I just returned home from my trip in Kiev.

Some notes.

- Even with the euro being 23 hryvnia and not 32 like 2 weeks before, everything was so cheap!

I mean restaurants, bars, transport, etc.

- I visited Rio. The girls were from average to great looking! The stuff were very very polite and willing to help you! I asked 2 girls to take back to my apartment and they asked for 6000 HR.

Too much, but in case of one little brunette, worth it. Unfortunately she went home with another guy before I decide.

- I was speaking with a mamba girl. We decided to meet and I proposed to go have a dinner and see what after. Maybe we'll end in my apartment.

To which she replied that she would love that, and I could offer her a gift in form of money. She asked for 2000 HR.

When I asked for a friend for my friend she said she didn't have one but proposed group sex, which "she had never tried", without asking more money.

She was amazing! We went all together to eat something, then went to a karaoke bar, and then end in our apartment. She was very passionate and never mentioned money, and wouldn't leave afterwards. She was a little gem! I gave her more than the 2000 she asked.

- I also met with 2 girls from VK. With the one (20 yo) we made a quick connection and after a bottle of wine started kissing. It didn't lead to more, and I didn't push it, but I will see her again.

With the other (30 yo) we just had a nice dinner, and now continue chatting, and will see where it goes.

- I had agreed on meeting with some more girls from Mamba or Travelgirls, but they couldn't meet when I wanted or they were "lost" and didn't reply.

- Generally, Kiev gave me the impression that anything is possible. Girls are looking at you in the street more than in Russian cities (and of course much more than Western European cities).

I'm going back soon!

[OnePenny]

A lot of girls going on holidays, too. Even if they don't have much money. Don't expect that Kiev will be full of sex-hungry girls during the summer-season.

Moscow? Cheap? It's 2015 and not 1995. Before the crisis Moscow was very expensive. Now Moscow is just expensive (compared to Kiev).

Kiev? Boring? There are a lot of activities for the daytime. You can go to the beach clubs Olmeca Plage, Bora-Bora, CityBeachClub. You can go to the shopping centers (Ocean Plaza, Sky-Mall, Gulliver-Center).

Sports. ? Use the ropeway from the freedom arch to hydro park. In the hydro park you can drive with quards, try base jump, try to fly with the Jetlev-Flyer. Everything is possible (if you have money).

Even the museums are not really boring. Discover the caves of the cloister, climb to the top of the statue, take a daytrip to Chernobyl.

July is a bad idea for Kiev, because of holidays. Until end of June makes sense, because of students party.

Odessa / Arkadia in July is great. However, many "leechers" .

Visit the aircraft museum in Kiev, close to Zhulyani airport. Rent a car for short trips. A daytrip to the museum of strategic rockets:

Visit the underground control of a former SS-18 ICBM missile base. And sit at the keyboard for lauch.

(About 20 km from highway Kiev / Odessa, direction Nikolaev).

Thank you both for some tips regarding things to do. I will look it up and read about the things you mentioned. I heard Ukraine is quite beautiful during summer, so that helps as well.

But a quick follow up questions to you guys:

What do you mean by students party? The whole Kiev city turned in to a party place in July, like noise and stuff? I am open for both June and July so I can go in June if its bad there in July.

Secondly, how do I get in touch with the girls in Kiev? Both London and Warszawa have huge directories where you can pick a girl you like, with details what she does.

Kiev however, the sites are pretty scarce, and the few sites I can find seems quite fishy with girls that seems way too good looking that they must be fakes / models. Where can I.

Contact the girls before booking my travel? I like to make dates to have everything settled and cleared before deciding to go.

Third: Is it difficult down there when all you know is English? Do the people there speak English? Also, are there many other mongers like us down there in the summer so that the.

"competition" is just too much?

Thank you all for your help. I appreciate it greatly.

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[Reiner Otto]

I have a question for you experienced punters.

I'm going on holiday this summer, in June or July.

July is a bad idea for Kiev, because of holidays. Until end of June makes sense, because of students party.

Odessa / Arkadia in July is great. However, many "leechers" .

Visit the aircraft museum in Kiev, close to Zhulyani airport. Rent a car for short trips. A daytrip to the museum of strategic rockets:

Visit the underground control of a former SS-18 ICBM missile base. And sit at the keyboard for lauch.

(About 20 km from highway Kiev / Odessa, direction Nikolaev).

[Manny51]

Hi guys!

I have always been interested in going to Ukraine, and I thought now might be the perfect time, given the exchange rate, which is 1:22 today versus 1:8 just one year ago. Thinking of going to visit Kiev, Kamyanets-Podilsky, and Odessa, then flying to Romania. The most beautiful women in the world is a big big plus.

1. Can anyone in Kiev now or very recently comment on prices? Have restaurants, hotels, and girls increased their nominal prices to compensate? Have they just began quoting in dollars? Or are things really cheaper in practice if you exchange currency and pay in hryvnya?

If Ukraine is a bargain now, then I would love to take advantage of it, and give some business to the Ukrainian people at the same time. But if prices for the things that tourists / punters would frequent have stayed mostly the same, then I would rather wait until things calm down politically.

2. Also, can someone paint a broad picture of the scene? I have read back a year or so on the forum, and everyone mostly just talks about Mamba. Not into the website thing. Are there good cafes, bordellos, clubs and strip clubs, and what are the prices there now? Is Rio still the place to go?

3. Finally, I know that some of you will nail me for this, but can someone comment on HIV and STDs? I have read several articles about HIV rates increasing because of the conflict, and they were high to begin with. Is that mostly in eastern Ukraine? Or does it affect Kiev, Odessa, and western Ukraine as well? Is the risk overblown or underappreciated? I always practice safe sex.

I would love input both from veterans, as well as people who have gone recently for the first time.

Thanks in advance!

[Misterxxx]

I have a question for you experienced punters.

I'm going on holiday this summer, in June or July. I want to combine sex along with everyday activities.

Meaning I want to have something to do in the days as well, when I'm not in the bed with a lady.

My problem is:

Kiev. What is there to do there except hunting for girls? The city seems boring, nothing like for example London.

But I have never been to Ukraine before so I don't really know.

Its either Kiev. Ukraine, Warszawa. Poland, London. UK, or Moscow / St Petersbrg. Russia.

London: been there before. Had a great time. Problem is stiff prices. People know English there so getting around is easy. Lots of stuff to do.

Kiev: Gorgeous girls. Lots of amateurs you can have a good time with, compared to say London which is full of Pro's. Cheap girls. Can spend the entire.

Night with them without breaking the bank. My problem is that I can't find anything interesting to do there in the daytime. Museums get boring pretty quick for me.

Plus do the people there know English? If I need help, am I in big trouble? And there doesn't seem to be many escort directories from this country, which makes it.

Difficult to find a woman for the night.

Warszawa: Like Kiev I assume. Never been there before either, so I don't really know. There seem to be a little more escort sites which makes picking out an escort easier.

Than in Kiev.

Moscow / St Petersburg: Like Kiev / Warszawa I think. Cheap, plus there is many many escort sites which helps you track down a English talking lady to have sex with.

English is bad here too like in Kiev / Warszawa?

What would you guys go if you were me between those 4 places? And why?

I appreciate any help I can get. This is very difficult for me.

A lot of girls going on holidays, too. Even if they don't have much money. Don't expect that Kiev will be full of sex-hungry girls during the summer-season.

Moscow? Cheap? It's 2015 and not 1995. Before the crisis Moscow was very expensive. Now Moscow is just expensive (compared to Kiev).

Kiev? Boring? There are a lot of activities for the daytime. You can go to the beach clubs Olmeca Plage, Bora-Bora, CityBeachClub. You can go to the shopping centers (Ocean Plaza, Sky-Mall, Gulliver-Center).

Sports. ? Use the ropeway from the freedom arch to hydro park. In the hydro park you can drive with quards, try base jump, try to fly with the Jetlev-Flyer. Everything is possible (if you have money).

Even the museums are not really boring. Discover the caves of the cloister, climb to the top of the statue, take a daytrip to Chernobyl.

[OnePenny]

I have a question for you experienced punters.

I'm going on holiday this summer, in June or July. I want to combine sex along with everyday activities.

Meaning I want to have something to do in the days as well, when I'm not in the bed with a lady.

My problem is:

Kiev. What is there to do there except hunting for girls? The city seems boring, nothing like for example London.

But I have never been to Ukraine before so I don't really know.

Its either Kiev. Ukraine, Warszawa. Poland, London. UK, or Moscow / St Petersbrg. Russia.

London: been there before. Had a great time. Problem is stiff prices. People know English there so getting around is easy. Lots of stuff to do.

Kiev: Gorgeous girls. Lots of amateurs you can have a good time with, compared to say London which is full of Pro's. Cheap girls. Can spend the entire.

Night with them without breaking the bank. My problem is that I can't find anything interesting to do there in the daytime. Museums get boring pretty quick for me.

Plus do the people there know English? If I need help, am I in big trouble? And there doesn't seem to be many escort directories from this country, which makes it.

Difficult to find a woman for the night.

Warszawa: Like Kiev I assume. Never been there before either, so I don't really know. There seem to be a little more escort sites which makes picking out an escort easier.

Than in Kiev.

Moscow / St Petersburg: Like Kiev / Warszawa I think. Cheap, plus there is many many escort sites which helps you track down a English talking lady to have sex with.

English is bad here too like in Kiev / Warszawa?

What would you guys go if you were me between those 4 places? And why?

I appreciate any help I can get. This is very difficult for me.

[TheWhatever]

Oksana from Mamba looks awesome!

I hope she's not fake.