Kyiv

[Sponsor74]

By the time I've sent my post I thought something like this, that the girls come out one after another. I really checked all your posts, but man, you really write a lot. So I'll try again tonight and as I'll be here another 4 nights this is alright.

In the meanwhile I tried one girl from mamba and 2 of minuet biz and one from top modals. Of course every time a different girl showed up and they all don't speak Russian! Even though Natasha. A friend of mine. Called them and talked in Russian to them that I want the one on the pictures or at least one that is alike! They just don't care. A good friend of mine who is here right now with me tried gia escort and he was always satisfied but I won't pay those prices!

In addition we have been to the basement mall at Maydan to have a coffee and there were so many beauties! They all look at me (I'm 6. 7 tall and look allright) , sometimes more than once. When I smile, sometimes they smile back. But to be honest, I don't know how to approach them. In Germany it's almost inpossible to speak to a 20 year old girl when you are 40 years old.

In terms of taxi I have found Anatoly who is from here but speaks German and he takes about USD 15 / hour for driving me and my friends with a nice Mercedes Vito.

So tonight we go out with 3 nice ladies from Ukraine but only friends and they don't like if we would say what we are here for. So we always pretend to be here for business.

This year I have been twice in Kiev and it seems that the authorities are trying to "clean" the center of the city (maybe due to the next football even?) or maybe corruption again. Some girls I know told me that they prefer to work with agencies (and the extra prices or commissions for these agencies) because these agencies protect them from this "new" situation in center of Kiev. Maybe someone have more informatiopn about this assumption occuring during this year?

[Sorbonne]

Yes they give head Immy. It depends on the girl. But I got head. When she flipped around it was obvious she does anal as well. It was actually beautiful looking at her ass & pussy. So arousing & sexual. Of course you cannot touch the intimate zones by policy, however differnet woman different thinking.

Lady considers you a customer. If you pay the right amount I'm certain you could get extra with some girls in Dolly massage. Respect the service, make some offers, see what you get. I have not been to the massage centre however feel that being in your apartment you obviously have more privacy. & she will be able to expand her services without worry of being caught or such.

But consider yourself lucky if you get anything extra, cause not everybody does. They used to be indifferent to any extra money, even though they were getting paid only about 15 USD (30% of the price we pay) for 60 min. (I believe they recently raised the price.) Just kissing was even difficult to get.

They used to have much younger, wilder and prettier girls. Old timers (still in early 20s) who were hired by the Italian founder Max and who are still there tend to be prettier and do more.

I don't know about more recently hired ones. In the photo gallery they appear (almost) in order of time hired.

Dolly used to be my choice of activity to fill time-in-between in Kiev, as it was only about 50 USD per hour.

[Mystery77]

Can anybody here tell me about the pole strip dancing club just a little ouside of Kiev "Martin."

What would be the entry costs?

& all relevant details.

[Prosal]

Need a little help quickly:

Can anybody translate it for me please?

Cheers

Need traslation help also. The girl I fucked last moaned something like :

Ebi menia kak blad! Mne nravitsa tvoy bolshoy francuzski xuy! Trakhi minia kak suka!

I guess this is romantic terms of endearments? (smilie)

[Kirch]

So now I know what Liljoey means saying having patience being at Rio! Only 2-3 girls dancing at the same time in each area. First area is like a waiting area, a bar and some sofas where you can hang out watching 2 girls dancing 1-2 songs (about 5 minutes). But in this area I think there is no action, means the manager doesn't pay attention at all and I don't think girls are coming to your table afterwards, at least I didn't see it. So I asked for a table in the next area (Table and confortable sofas) but we had to wait and wait. Other guest came after us and get to this area first. So I approached the manager and gave him 200 and said I want a table now and I'll be back the next 4 days. Within the next 2 min. We got a table. Here 3 girls dancing at the same time. When they finished the go over to the next area and the next 3 girls come on stage. I saw another entrance called "VIP". So I asked the manager and he showed me the area. He said, call me on the day you come and I reserve a table. In this VIP area there are another 3 girls dancing and again they rotate after 1-2 songs to the next area. So it takes some rounds and you have seen all the girls. BUT never they have about 100-200 girls a night! I asked several people and they agree. Yesterday there were about 50 girls and of course the later it gets the less girls are there.

What is really nice about this place, there is only 100 entrance fee and we paid 60 for one Bacardi Cola which is pretty cheap for a club like this. So hanging around for hours is really nice!

Another good thing, there is no extra charge for the tables and you don't have to pay for at least one bottle or else. At least the manager told me so.

If you want to have a 10, never go too late there! We got there at midnight and the best girls were gone. Of course. BUT the rest is still ok, I decided for Elvira, she is 28 but looks like 23. Nice body, black hair and she danced liked she wants to eat you. I knew she was something special. I realized in my appartement because she like bands like Korn, Deftones and Marillon Manson. She wants to be a Domina but she is not. She tries.

Service was ok but not the best. Like very often in Kiev! Don't touch me her, don't touch me there. And almost always shy! Totally different to Germany or Dubai. For instance.

Price was USD 300 for 3 hrs. But I sent here home after 2 hrs because she pretend to be tired. I hate that and say: go home.

Anyways, it was nice and I called Rio today and they reserve a table for me at 9:00 pm because I want to see Tanya! Liljoey said she is the best and I asked some girls and the manager and everybody agreed.

So more tomorrow.

[Mystery77]

A question to the experienced mongers.

If you take a girl on outcall to your apartment for a massage from Dolly or any other place.

Is it possible to get full sex or BJ for an extra tip?

Can anyone provide reports of their experiences using this strategy?

Yes they give head Immy. It depends on the girl. But I got head. When she flipped around it was obvious she does anal as well. It was actually beautiful looking at her ass & pussy. So arousing & sexual. Of course you cannot touch the intimate zones by policy, however differnet woman different thinking.

Lady considers you a customer. If you pay the right amount I'm certain you could get extra with some girls in Dolly massage. Respect the service, make some offers, see what you get. I have not been to the massage centre however feel that being in your apartment you obviously have more privacy. & she will be able to expand her services without worry of being caught or such.

[CityHunter77]

A question to the experienced mongers.

If you take a girl on outcall to your apartment for a massage from Dolly or any other place.

Is it possible to get full sex or BJ for an extra tip?

Can anyone provide reports of their experiences using this strategy?

[Sorbonne]

Sorbonne, is it this place?

http://www.sauna-leon.com.ua/

Just a normal sauna apparently but open 24 hours and not too far by taxi from where the boat was on the far side of the river.

Used to be used by some of the old RP girls who were 'in the know'.

I had some notes on this place and maybe another one that sounds like your description but unfortunately notebook is long gone.

VG

Valery,

I don't know if this is the one, but I was imagining the ones like the sauna Gia uses, like bangalows in the forest, as it was supposed to be in the outskirts of Kiev.

http://gia.la/apartments

See #12 at the bottom.

But this could be too expensive.

Maybe the next time I go to Kiev I'd call the girl who told me and go there with her.

[LilJoey]

If you rent from the same site every time let them know you have been using them since year xxxx and ask if they can give you a discount.

Never know, they may take $15 off for each day

Excellent point Muddy7. In fact kievapts. Com from whom I have been renting already does apply such a repeat customer discount to my rentals, and have done so even without my asking, as it is commonly done.

I have received IT's recommendation of apartments. Com. Ua, and will consider them also for future bookings.

Thanks.

LJ

[Member #4243]

Many thanks for the valuable info. Helping me plan my first trip to FSU Kiev! I feel that many of the doubts and concerns I had are being eliminated one by one-thanks.

[Gergiev]

I have mentioned this here before, but a former RP girl told me that there is a cottage with sauna in the outskirts of Kiev where you can stay overnight for only about 15 USD. Let us know if anybody finds out about this.

Sorbonne, is it this place?

http://www.sauna-leon.com.ua/

Just a normal sauna apparently but open 24 hours and not too far by taxi from where the boat was on the far side of the river.

Used to be used by some of the old RP girls who were 'in the know'.

I had some notes on this place and maybe another one that sounds like your description but unfortunately notebook is long gone...

VG

[Mystery77]

I was out with a dancer a few nights back that apparently wanted a relationship, met online. A day after she came to pick me up as she was heading to work.

The menu in her bar I could not read as it was in Russian or Ukr. Ahh f*ck this 3 hour story. I feel I know I got gamed in the bar & little before.

& let me give you guys a heads up, I was in Kreshatic restaurant out with a ISG fella. Anyways he was with 2 girls one he chat online the other a friend of hers.

We talk drink whatever, I'm a little drunk no problem, that night ends we put them in a taxi, & we leave in our paths home.

Back to the dancer, we in Mafia & this little fag*ot pu*sy waiter basically blew me out to her in UKr, because I was with some girls in the place a few nights back. "One of her lines, so i'm just the next girl you bring here. Which i replied i have friends just because girls are with me what does that mean? You been here with boys before."

Mouthing to fellow waiters whom looking over every 2 minutes at our table, it was quiet in the restaurant Wednesday late-ish.

I was actually really interested in this mentality put forward by this dancer. But thanks to Mafia restaurant waiter, her more pro side kicked in possibly that night, & definitelt in her bar.

She is calling me tomorrow she said To cut a long story short, in her club, I said so gamed me tonight? You gamed me o my god. Said with a not really caring attitude on my side. She lied about what they could only drink.

Forget the details, she screwed up & I caught her out. Can this situation be recovered? Has Kreshatic Mafia screwed me.

[CityHunter77]

Today I had a great GFE in Kiev with a pretty blonde pro, she had an advert at mamba.

Her Working name is Marina. Student and 20 years old.

Parts of her right forearm are missing and she wears a prothesis, her handicap is also covered from her long blonde hair, it did not affect our Sex in anyway.

Sex with her was great, maybe anybody here knows her already?

Http://www.mamba.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=581191566&hit=3

Are you talking about this Marina?

[LilJoey]

I would probably give Aila a 7. 5-8 because of her boobs, best natural ones I've seen in Rio.

I don't know what rating Mystery and Free Tiger would give Sannya but I thought she was a 9+

Unless Sannya does take out, we shouldn't put her on a list for mongers who are looking for take out. Hot girls for take out is what seemed to be what most guys are interested in knowing about.

Regarding Aila I'll put her on the list because you're saying most guys would see her as an 8 too and it's a recommendation from a member for others to have a look at her. But it is an interesting question what to do. I've never seen her, so I'm asking you to put on your thinking cap and surmise whether "the majority of guys out there would agree she is an 8 or above". Now the value of good natural boobs cannot be ignored, but you need to tell me if you think her face is pretty enough, and the rest of her body (flat stomach awesome ass and legs) is hot enough so that most guys (not only those who care only about boobs) would agree she's an 8, all around. If her face is plain, or her ass is fat, she shouldn't make the cut just because of boobs. So tell me about what you thought about her facial prettiness and the hotness of the rest of her body.

[Borderland]

Kiev day game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOM6f...layer_embedded