Kyiv

[YummyPL]

I am going to be in Ukraine for three months starting next week.

Kind of a bummer if that's the case. I was hoping to run through as many 18-25's as possible.

I have had sex with: 1 x 18 yo, 1 x 19 yo, 1 x 21 yo, 4 x 22 yo, 1 x 23 yo, 2 x 24 yo, 2 x 27 yo, 1 x 28 yo. All attractive. In the past 7 weeks. Riina has not been in Kiev in a long time. He has no idea. You don't need to listen to him.

[Ringudor]

I'm wondering a visit to Kiev, but I don't know if its worthy, in current situation, anybody knows if streapclubs are open?

[IdiotSavant]

Not worth the hassle. What I see in the current scene is a growing junk heap of thirty somethings. Nothing wrong with that I guess.

I am going to be in Ukraine for three months starting next week.

Kind of a bummer if that's the case. I was hoping to run through as many 18-25's as possible.

Russian porn is my favorite.

[Riina]

Great point about talent returning. Now is probably one of the best time to visit Kiev, in many years. With all the restrictions many have been forced to return, also many probably need money, so you might be able to get some good deals.

Not worth the hassle. What I see in the current scene is a growing junk heap of thirty somethings. Nothing wrong with that I guess.

[DramaFree11]

Not been on here for a long time, but still regularly in Kyiv. I'm an old timer since pre-River Palace glory days and two revolutions!

Good to see a lot of sensible chat and advice. Yep, the country's open. A lot more masks in use since I was last here. In Kyiv it's mandatory to wear mask inside shops, malls etc, but not on the street.

Bang on with the insurance and entry guidelines. However, Ukraine thankfully overhauled its ridiculous red-and-green list methodology, so now it's just any country less infected than Ukraine over 14 days which gets on the green list, which means no forms, no test, nothing. Except the mandatory health insurance. Not sure if anyone's mentioned it but the insurance (yes, so easy to arrange on the visit ukraine site) only costs about a Euro a day.

I have to say Covid-19 has turned the clock back for me. All the talent is back home (from Poland, China, Korea, Italy, Germany etc) and all short of cash..

Great point about talent returning. Now is probably one of the best time to visit Kiev, in many years. With all the restrictions many have been forced to return, also many probably need money, so you might be able to get some good deals.

[Ringudor]

Sorry guys, like a newbie. I can't understand what do you mean with SA girls.

Seeking Arrangement, a website to find sugarbabies.

[TheKnight]

Not been on here for a long time, but still regularly in Kyiv. I'm an old timer since pre-River Palace glory days and two revolutions!

Good to see a lot of sensible chat and advice. Yep, the country's open. A lot more masks in use since I was last here. In Kyiv it's mandatory to wear mask inside shops, malls etc, but not on the street.

Bang on with the insurance and entry guidelines. However, Ukraine thankfully overhauled its ridiculous red-and-green list methodology, so now it's just any country less infected than Ukraine over 14 days which gets on the green list, which means no forms, no test, nothing. Except the mandatory health insurance. Not sure if anyone's mentioned it but the insurance (yes, so easy to arrange on the visit ukraine site) only costs about a Euro a day.

I have to say Covid-19 has turned the clock back for me. All the talent is back home (from Poland, China, Korea, Italy, Germany etc) and all short of cash.

Models are more willing to work in Ukraine, because they have nothing else. Although a lot have turned to camming and onlyfans and shit like that.

So I think it's a good time to come. Even the weather's been kind the past few days, 22 c /72 f when I sat eating and drinking on Khreshchatyk an hour ago.

Regarding the query about other cities in winter. I would steer clear of the hobby in Odesa. Better to take a girl there from another city. They tend to regard themselves as better, aloof and much more expensive and colder. YMMV.

Kharkiv is great. Massive student city, lots of young women. Quite easy to get chatting to girls in bars, cafes, shops.

L'viv is shitty for mongering. But most of the other towns and cities you will find amazing gems and value for money, but you will need to do the legwork. There's no real shortcut.

I've not used Seeking Arrangement so nothing to add, but interested to read your results.

Occasionally you can find an independent on Ukrgo site (google it) - but as with most sites here, mostly agencies. But the various options let you tailor your search by age, city and even region.

[GDreams]

Today I was the target of the "lost wallet scam" probably because I was walking on a street with currency exchanges and observing their exchange rates. Personally I always use ATMs but I was looking for another person who brings cash. Luckily for me I had almost no money left on me after a crazy Friday night when I had 3 girls visit me. No I'm no longer good for 3 pops a day but I can enjoy a girl enough without popping every single time LOL. So if you are coming here read up on the scams. Today it wasn't a wallet but a clear ziplock bag which I now see written about by others on the internet.

https://ilovekyiv.com/most-common-scams-kyiv

When I used to frequent Kiev I had that scam 7 or eight times. I had some fun a couple of times kicking the packets on the road.

[Seattle66]

Hi,

I've been to Lviv in summer and winter. In winter it is cold and may have a lot of snow. Most of the action is agencies and apartments. I was able to order a girl and she would come to the apartment I was in. But like everywhere else, what you see is not what you get. There are a lot of attractive women walking around or in restaurants. Surprisingly, a lot of people in the city center speak a little English because of tourism. But you may run into women that speak nothing. A lot of the waitresses speak English though. I had a few contacts via Tinder. After contact they switch to WhatsApp or Viber for communication. One woman wanted $300 USD plus taxi. She looked hot in photos but I passed. Another Tinder contact offered $100 for two hours. The first time we met she brought a friend and had a threesome for the same price. I invited her back a few days later alone for the same deal. She was hot! Some independents have postings for the different districts. And I advise to ask for real photos. Some are marked saying the photos are real, but a lot of them are also agencies. So check the weather home numbers. A lot of them are the same. I would say there was about 4 common phone numbers. So I would check the 'independents' with these numbers. But in general, the city center will have most of the girls. But hang out in the square and you will see al lot of hot women walking around.

I was there in August and I met a girl from a dating agency. Nothing happened, just got to know her. She is a sweetheart and we chat via WhatsApp. I am returning at the end of the year to meet another one from the agency. She is a hot preschool teacher that speaks English and I am supporting her with her apartment (she moved out because her father wouldn't allow us to meet in August). And I will also visit Kharkov for the first time to meet a nurse via a dating site. Something will happen with both girls on this trip. I've been writing to them both for the past two years.

I first off want to thank you personally for writing this. I had an absolute freak out yesterday. Someone on reddit misrepresented the overall procedure. They made it sound like I required an active Ukrainian phone number on the app. I did my best to Amazon a Vodafone or Kyivstar SIM card to myself with no luck and started imagining the possibility of being forced into a Covid induced catch 22 at the airport.

Out of all the Ukrainian forums and the Reddit I frequent this is hands down the least cryptic detailed assessment of the testing procedure for Americans.

I am curious if anyone has experience with Lviv and Kharkiv or even Odessa in winter? I am staying in Kyiv until after Halloween but I am wondering if those cities have access to high end girls this time of year. Also I am wondering how they are for picking up civilians as an American.

[Arkiloko]

Sorry guys, like a newbie. I can't understand what do you mean with SA girls.

[IdiotSavant]

One of our fellow board members who I met in Pattaya asked me to put together a "step by step" guide to entering Ukraine so thought better to put it here rather than just to him.

Visit this website to buy medical insurance https://visitukraine.today/.

USA is a red country. Also load the Dii Vdoma app and answer the questions. They want you to enter your home phone number even though after you enter thru immigration you will probably be removing that SIM card and buying a local SIM.

Immigration will want to see a printed copy of your purchased medical insurance and also want to see you have the app loaded and questions answered.

After you exit baggage claim go up the escalator and turn left and follow the hallway to a glass walled office for Covid test paperwork to "avoid the 14 day quarantine" or some such wording. Ask for the paperwork in English and sit down at the table back by the escalators and fill it out. Go back down the escalator and turn left to the currency exchange / bank on the left. Change a small amount of money like $100 or less because it's a ripoff exchange rate there. But you need to pay for your Covid test in hyrvnia local currency. After you change money you need to pay for your Covid test right there at the currency exchange.

I first off want to thank you personally for writing this. I had an absolute freak out yesterday. Someone on reddit misrepresented the overall procedure. They made it sound like I required an active Ukrainian phone number on the app. I did my best to Amazon a Vodafone or Kyivstar SIM card to myself with no luck and started imagining the possibility of being forced into a Covid induced catch 22 at the airport.

Out of all the Ukrainian forums and the Reddit I frequent this is hands down the least cryptic detailed assessment of the testing procedure for Americans.

I am curious if anyone has experience with Lviv and Kharkiv or even Odessa in winter? I am staying in Kyiv until after Halloween but I am wondering if those cities have access to high end girls this time of year. Also I am wondering how they are for picking up civilians as an American.

[YummyPL]

I've not been posting much because I don't really have any different information to report. I am basically following the Kozerog model. I now have a sponsorette that I found on SA with a two meetings a week arrangement. She meets my physical criteria almost perfectly (around 155 cm, 43 firm kilos, dark hair, pail skin, except she has green eyes instead of blue), young and very cute. Apparently I am paying her too much according to the posters here for an extended arrangement (now at 4,000 for "as long as I want her to stay" which has been 6-11 hours per meeting so far). I have also seen a few new SA girls. The only addition is that my most recent "SA girl" was an agency and I got a girl switch. Still attractive and had a good time. Nothing special, and nothing new to report.

It was very nice to meet LuckyNuts, Kozerog, and UkeBoy in person.

[Lucky Nuts]

Today I was the target of the "lost wallet scam" probably because I was walking on a street with currency exchanges and observing their exchange rates. Personally I always use ATMs but I was looking for another person who brings cash. Luckily for me I had almost no money left on me after a crazy Friday night when I had 3 girls visit me. No I'm no longer good for 3 pops a day but I can enjoy a girl enough without popping every single time LOL. So if you are coming here read up on the scams. Today it wasn't a wallet but a clear ziplock bag which I now see written about by others on the internet.

https://ilovekyiv.com/most-common-scams-kyiv

[Kozerog]

I was waiting for DramaFree11 to explain why Russian girls might want to work in Ukraine. Below is a good reason why American men might prefer Ukraine to Russia. As an ex-Marine, at least he's experienced with tough conditions. He's going to need that experience during his 9 years in Russian prison. Lots of reasons for both men and women to avoid Russia, IMO. But definitely want to hear what DramaFree11 thinks:

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N...9801596129526/

[Lucky Nuts]

I did not know Russian girls work in Kiev. I'm sure the ladies were fun, but my first thought is that they must be low quality if working in Ukraine. There's a lot of options for girls in Russia.

I was pretty satisfied with the Russian girls and paid 2200 plus 200 taxi which is about $85. How much do you pay in Russia? I want to vist Moscow and St. Pete as well. Probably in Spring 2021.

Regarding quality you can see the picture of the one I posted. Maybe I should ask them why they choose to live and work in Kyiv.