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03-18-19 00:51 #19315
Posts: 1And the social media?
It seems from the reports the official pay-for scene is not really so juicy. What is your experience for using the dating apps (Tinder, Badoo) and going through the route of almost typical wine and dining with a positive ending? Perhaps more success then attempting to win with the formal and public scene? Will be visiting Kiev soon and curious on the approach I should best follow.
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03-17-19 08:50 #19314
Posts: 50Originally Posted by Misterxxx [View Original Post]
I wonder how you guys visiting often go about it? Do you do regular testing? For what STD's in particular? Not afraid of spreading?
Thing is: I am single, but also have a GF locally (western Europe) once a while where I will have unprotected sex. So: anyone having a "80/20 approach" on how to deal with that?
Would be interesting to share.
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03-17-19 04:50 #19313
Posts: 241Originally Posted by Stefan7 [View Original Post]
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03-17-19 01:55 #19312
Posts: 823Originally Posted by Misterxxx [View Original Post]
There was one 18 years old beauty over 5 years ago, that I ran out of condoms with. As it turned out later in our email exchange prior to Viber era, she was actually counting them, and asked:
- Why there was only 11? The pack should have 12.
She took me by the hand, led to the nearby pharmacy, and explained which brand she prefers. Something like "Romantic strawberry".
I do not feel less desirable for not going bare back. My Ukrainian friends go protected within their harem. Again, maybe they are are more educated.
Important aspect here. Girls do want to get pregnant with the right guy. That's their ticket to insured sponsorship. It is an interesting game of them balancing on the wire, tempting, luring in, making evasive maneuvers, and going for continuous seduction again and again. One trick is to pull the condom off of you in the process. And many more are invented over the centuries.
AFAIK, the law in Ukraine says that for the first child the court may force the female partner to have her child DNA tested per male's partner request. The second child she may get from anybody, and Ukrainian law prevents the father from legally requesting the DNA test. It could be anybody's kid, and husband would pay for support.
Dedicated sponsors do go bareback, and one of the girls complained to me that before leaving her alone in Kiev for a week, her sponsor gave her a stack of condoms, caring about himself. She felt insulted. I felt he was stupid. Because she can buy them anywhere, and with his money. She didn't stay faithful to that jerk. I used my own. Then we went for a night on the town. She was driving his SUV. My hand was on her nylon pantyhose thigh.
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03-16-19 11:35 #19311
Posts: 220Originally Posted by PhotoSlider [View Original Post]
Sex is treated like all other things in Ukraine as well. People do not think about what can be in one or ten years. No money for rent and food. But the latest iPhone in the bag.
With your ideas you think like a man from the west. With house. Money in the bank. Safe job. Not like a person living in ukraine.
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03-15-19 21:57 #19310
Posts: 823Originally Posted by BimboBoy [View Original Post]
There is however direct and significant risk increase from having unprotected sex, especially downstream from boys to girls.
Who would have unprotected sex? The following categories come to mind:
1. Desperate person that needs money badly. Basically the same as selling their kidney for cash.
2. Uneducated person. Doesn't matter what model of smartphone he or she has, how well she dresses, and how frequently visits the gym. HIV doesn't care. Hepatitis eventually is as deadly.
3. Already infected person.
4. A couple in a strictly monogamous relationship.
1st and 2nd category, and subsequently the 3rd, are more widespread in the Eastern Ukraine affected by war.
Ensuring category 4 is almost impossible in Kiev. Promise means nothing. One partner may be strict, and the other one free as a bird. I, honestly, do not care with my GFs, because the chance of them staying faithful is much less than 1%. My favorite one said literally:
- I want 3 husbands. One for money, one to have kids with, and you.
- What is my role?
- You are my joy and delight.
Testing yourself and GF on a monthly basis helps but doesn't guarantee. GIA / KEC tests once in 3-6 months, sometimes even less frequently, and tells fairy tales how it is more than enough.
Western society rejects Ukrainian life style for this very reason. Need for stability. It is extremely easy for anybody in Kiev to cheat on anybody, level of tolerance is high in many ways. As a result the existing and new infections rate are among highest in the world.
My largest concern is category 3. Person already knows that he or she is infected, and doesn't care anymore. And of course there are so many explanations how bare back is much more pleasant and risk is non-existent. Tell it to half a million HIV-positive Ukrainians and a dozen dying from it daily.
We all are going to end up 3 feet under or deeper. It is about probability. Oral versus Vaginal versus Anal versus no sex at all.
Gentlemen, stay safe, and enjoy Ukrainian beauties!
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03-15-19 19:12 #19309
Posts: 220Originally Posted by BimboBoy [View Original Post]
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03-15-19 17:56 #19308
Posts: 608STD rates
Originally Posted by Tomster99 [View Original Post]
https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-pol...in-europe.html
https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0115151605.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_in_Ukraine
My guess is that infection rates are correlated with poverty. And the war displaces very poor populations to new areas.
However, educated girls that have sex for iPhones, also are health conscious and go to the gym regularly. Thus lower risk.
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03-15-19 17:49 #19307
Posts: 608Vicky
Originally Posted by Stevie69 [View Original Post]
Yes you are right. She is Vicky. And yes she is a little fatter than in her pictures, but still good looking, I would not call her solid.
My experiences were better than yours, she performed very well all the time with no complaints. Yes, she has great oral skills.
I understand that she might be jaded from some of her rough local clients, but with me she was sweet and kind.
She even wanted to spend more time with me outside of sex, which I was not interested in, as I have other options.
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03-15-19 17:39 #19306
Posts: 710Originally Posted by Admin2 [View Original Post]
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03-15-19 06:30 #19305
Posts: 3No rocket science needed. You can get std's just by getting BJ's. Think of it.
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03-14-19 23:44 #19304
Posts: 332If I may disagree.
Originally Posted by AntonySun1996 [View Original Post]
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03-14-19 23:39 #19303
Posts: 332I know her.
Originally Posted by BimboBoy [View Original Post]
I know that girl! When I met her, she called herself Vicki. Great oral skills, but I think she is used to quick performers, and started developing an attitude after I passed the 15 minute mark without signs of finishing. She claimed that she did not like oral sex (on her). She was not fat, but she was solid. I prefer them a little slimmer. Repeat? Maybe. I will see next time.
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03-14-19 23:30 #19302
Posts: 332Trying to do it politely.
Originally Posted by AntonySun1996 [View Original Post]
Again, $5000 USD is enough to cover 6 months of a regular salary.
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03-14-19 15:14 #19301
Posts: 710Originally Posted by CastOnThis [View Original Post]
I understand the frustration with Kiev as a scam city. The girls are like addicts, they size you up as to what they can take from you. You have to reciprocate the behavior. I like a good slam bam thank you mam, but I also like girls hanging out with me. It's an extension of normal mongering. The chance of fucking them bareback becomes exponential. I enjoy cumming on their faces in the morning before they wake.
Be a sneaky fucker and you will not be the member on the forum calling out Ukrainians as scum.