Kyiv

[Richard R]

I know what you mean but in the more glamorous places, drunk sluts are harder to find.

That's a lie. You can find many beautiful sluts around 5 am in a classy club.

[OwaRunner]

atOwaRunner.

Use normaly good clothes, good shoes are importand.

You can go to every Disco, try "sorry babushka", there are normal girls.

If you want meet nice girl with good service, send me PN with your Mail Adress.

She is 22/170/60

I'm waiting for my payment to be accepted, so no private message yet.

Are you based in Kiev?

OwaRunner

[ChessB]

It's coming up to rent time of the month, Mamba girls are busy.

[OwaRunner]

My second to last night in Kiev after 10 days. I first got stood up by one of Mamba friends, they are unpredictable, so I go to Budda bar (more like ghost bar). More men than hot models so I quickly leave after a drink to walk Khreschatyk. I went looking for Vodka Bar and went to the wrong entrance, the entrance is to the right, just follow drunk foreigners and the music it was about 11:45 at night. Very good night at Vodka bar but since I wanted to rest from mongering and feel the scene I spent the night dancing with three dance bunnies. The action is at the bars, and any girl that is just dancing with no drinks is not a good prospect for p4p but I guess most newbies don't bother to RTFF. Most of the Ukrainians men were broke and drunk and I was approached directly by several of the working girls, mostly on the younger side 21-28, some spoke great English, and the demand for action seemed low. As I left the disco with disco bunnies, I got the name of the hot girl and gave her a red rose. Might of gotten more without her friends, but when you approach a group of girls (that hate sex tourists and poor, drunk Ukraines) with little assistance, it is hard to get far with no Russian language skills. There are helpful taxis outside Vodka Bar...

I will arrive on Friday and leave on Monday, where to stay Sunday night?

For a someone over 40, what is the normal dress code?

OwaRunner

[MortGoldman]

1. I like agencies because it is better hours for me (late afternoon) and girl comes on time and I know what she looks like.

Excellent report. So the agencies use real pictures? Which agencies did you use?

[Sammy0721]

My second to last night in Kiev after 10 days. I first got stood up by one of Mamba friends, they are unpredictable, so I go to Budda bar (more like ghost bar). More men than hot models so I quickly leave after a drink to walk Khreschatyk. I went looking for Vodka Bar and went to the wrong entrance, the entrance is to the right, just follow drunk foreigners and the music it was about 11:45 at night. Very good night at Vodka bar but since I wanted to rest from mongering and feel the scene I spent the night dancing with three dance bunnies. The action is at the bars, and any girl that is just dancing with no drinks is not a good prospect for p4p but I guess most newbies don't bother to RTFF. Most of the Ukrainians men were broke and drunk and I was approached directly by several of the working girls, mostly on the younger side 21-28, some spoke great English, and the demand for action seemed low. As I left the disco with disco bunnies, I got the name of the hot girl and gave her a red rose. Might of gotten more without her friends, but when you approach a group of girls (that hate sex tourists and poor, drunk Ukraines) with little assistance, it is hard to get far with no Russian language skills. There are helpful taxis outside Vodka Bar that have the address to sex apartments which I think is a better option than the more commercials taxi venues like Budda Bar, D-Lux and Arena. As for looks, Vodka bar is a little bit of a step down mostly 7-8s, but I feel that most girls look great in bar, but a little less great in the morning and real light.

1. I like agencies because it is better hours for me (late afternoon) and girl comes on time and I know what she looks like.

2. Mamba. Ru is fine, girls usually have a job and life, so don't expect real pictures, but I met 8-9s but I hate the long nights, they like to show up late, and they love to drink with company which makes the night even longer.

3. Vodka bar is good for action on the off nights (Monday, Tuesday) and the action comes to you, you need to chase a bit more in D-Lux and Arena based on a long look type of flirt signal.

4. I have yet to have any luck at Buddha Bar.

5. Early in the night, it is really hard to figure out the dance bunnies, semi-pros and pros. At 2-3 is when the men are closing deals or low balling and it is very easy to figure out pros from the crowd.

Happy mongering.

[RaptorNorway]

Hi I'm new to Kiev, I've been mongering in Warsaw for many years. So I have that city in my hand.

But Kiev and mongering. I want it plain and safe, I want to meet girls ang get laid, plain. You are talking about Mamba. Anyone have a link?

In Waw I always use odloty. Pl to meet girls.

But here I understand you get them from the street?

Appartments? Anyone have som nice ones? I see the hotel prices are just crazy. Dobbel what I pay in Waw.

Peter from Norway.

[Danish Traveler]

Tons of places are better than Mamba. Use Facebook or the local social sites Odnoklassniki and Vkontakte and. You could even use Skype and ICQ. Or you could just stop girls in Parks, shops and street. Please learn a little about the mentality of slavic girls before you go and as people told. Read this forum. All information is there. In Russia, Ukraine, Belarus it is normal for the man to be double age of the girls. Many girls prefer this. They find you more stable than the young guys.

I am more than 40 and is often with girls 18-19 years old. Often I give them small gifts but no more. Some of them have even worked as models or are still working as this. It really is not that hard. Just flirt with them, and be direct in a nice way. Slavic girls do not like men who are too nice. They kind of like a firm hand. They often say that men are number one. And girls are number 2. They like that men are the boss. But you should still treat them with flowers and small gifts. Personally I prefer the girls in the age group 21-25. They are a little more experienced.

I'm to old for that, I like some young firm girl (18-24). Where else than Mamba?

OwaRunner

[OwaRunner]

I'm to old for that, I like some young firm girl (18-24). Where else than Mamba?

OwaRunner

You do not need to take them for dinner. Just have a coffee or a drink. Ukrainians love coffee and they eat like a bird anyway. It takes less time and give you both a chance to end it fast if she is not the right girl. I would not use Mamba at all. Stopped using it 2-3 years ago. Girls in there is pros and often the photos is not theirs. I just use social networks like facebook.

When I was in my prime. I just set six-seven dates up a day in coffeeplaces close to each. So one meeting at 14, one at 15 and so on. If I liked a girl I just cancelled the girls in the hours a head. If you are going for normal relations. Meaning sex for no money. You have to take them out two-three times before they go home with you anyway. But take them out for a coffee is enough. I often have small gifts at home, like a perfume and similar, if I can see they are open to go home with you.

They hardened pro girls from mamba I will just skip the coffee meetings and meet them in front of my appartment. If another girl show up. I will just send her home again.

[Sammy0721]

This thread seems to be going in circles with the same lame questions. Anybody have a good "drunk sl*t" story or something in Kiev land?

Please anything!

In honor of all your contribution Climaxnow, I share you my latest trip to Kiev. So I came here last Friday and after meeting many Mamba girls and some late night in the bedroom with a lot of aerobics and bed jumping, I go to D-Lux six days into the trip. I find a dark hair girl in the club to my liking and take her to my room at the Fairmont. We shared some wine and other drinks and begin the activities. Into the second hour or third, in the missionary position nailing the poor girl and then the poor bed gave up and the bed post on the corner broke. We cuddle for the rest of the night until 8AM the next morning, and I wait for to talk to front desk for bed repair. The poor British at the desk was telling me how this happens with the particular type of bed, and fortunately they were able to fix the bed. As I was too tired to change room and wanted to get some sleep. It was very hard to sleep on a broken bed, and this wasn't the first time I broke a bed.

[Climaxnow]

This thread seems to be going in circles with the same lame questions. Anybody have a good "drunk sl*t" story or something in Kiev land?

Please anything!

[Danish Traveler]

You do not need to take them for dinner. Just have a coffee or a drink. Ukrainians love coffee and they eat like a bird anyway. It takes less time and give you both a chance to end it fast if she is not the right girl. I would not use Mamba at all. Stopped using it 2-3 years ago. Girls in there is pros and often the photos is not theirs. I just use social networks like facebook.

When I was in my prime. I just set six-seven dates up a day in coffeeplaces close to each. So one meeting at 14, one at 15 and so on. If I liked a girl I just cancelled the girls in the hours a head. If you are going for normal relations. Meaning sex for no money. You have to take them out two-three times before they go home with you anyway. But take them out for a coffee is enough. I often have small gifts at home, like a perfume and similar, if I can see they are open to go home with you.

They hardened pro girls from mamba I will just skip the coffee meetings and meet them in front of my appartment. If another girl show up. I will just send her home again.

Girls are getting back on Mamba now, its nice. Got some nice offers, but what is the right questions to now the girls are for real?

Anyone have trouble with Mamba girls?

My plan was to meet them on a Cafe or restaurant for some food and chat before the fun, is that a good approach?

OwaRunner

[OwaRunner]

Visiting Kiev is not rocket science. You do not need to spend a lot of money or employ anyone as your talent scout / guide. Here's what you do:

1) Read this forum. Go back 100 pages, read, learn and enjoy. Other people have made mistakes in Kiev so you don't have to (unless you really want to).

2) Read the forum again! Just to be sure you know what you expect when you're there.

3) Book a flight and an apartment somewhere central (for less than $100 per night).

4) Decide where you're going to source your talent. Are you going to use Mamba or actually go out to clubs / bar?

(If you use Mamba, do the ground work and most importantly, be prepared to be disappointed, lied to and cheated, it's all part of the fun).

It's that easy, all the information is here. Kiev is a beautiful city, full of adventure (good and bad). Go have your own, then feedback here.

Girls are getting back on Mamba now, its nice. Got some nice offers, but what is the right questions to now the girls are for real?

Anyone have trouble with Mamba girls?

My plan was to meet them on a Cafe or restaurant for some food and chat before the fun, is that a good approach?

OwaRunner

[Danish Traveler]

What exactly are you looking for Defender?

Do you need a limo-service with an english speaking driver. If so, then try one of these. There is tons of companies offering this. Kiev is getting quite a developed city. Just ask for an english speaking driver.

http://en.limo.com.ua/

http://rentcars12.com/category/car-rent-with-a-driver/

http://www.arocars.com/eng/avto1.html

http://www.top-drive-service.com/en

[Defender]

Any leads on finding a driver?