Kyiv

[Riina]

I agree with your post with the exception, energy level is real low in Kiev. The City is dead most nights of the week, but very cheap and some find that real attractive. Not for me, I would rather work a little harder and go to destinations were the city is alive with life. , not the case in Ukraine. Odessa does have energy, but difficult to get girls there.

As an over forty guy, I can find a girl in a dead Kiev night life. I can not find a girl in a vibrant Western night life.

[Arkiloko]

Informative concise contribution!

Uklon also has smartphone app, and online request option for English speaking driver.

I was in Kiev last month. I was never able to get a taxi with Uklon app.

Uber works fine. It was really usefull for me. a lot of cars, good service and price

[PhotoSlider]

You forgot a big provider: Uklon.

https://www.uklon.com.ua/

Older and more widespread than Uber or Yandex.

Informative concise contribution!

Uklon also has smartphone app, and online request option for English speaking driver.

[DramaFree11]

With the strong right to have my own opinion, I do think that Ukraine is far better than western Europe and US. One thing I would say is that, there might be many who came to Kiev with a lot of hope but got burnt with prices and bad experiences. Well (in my opinion), these bad experiences are just because of your mistakes. If you behave as desperate sex tourists showing off money and status, then there are much more smarter (yet poorer) people who will take advantage of you. This is not only in Kiev but anywhere in the world. Just go there will reasonable expectation, and knowing that Kiev is "Comparably" better than the country you live in. No girl is going to fall into your lap asking for having sex with you in exchange of small money.

1) Know the place / clubs / coffee spots you are going to. Do your homework. If not, get burnt, Kiev is not going to make it super easy for anyone.

2) Be patient, you might not succeed in the first attempt, but don't behave desperate, be cool and behave as if you are not talking to the girl to get her to bed. Talk to her as if you genuinely are interested in something else other than the girl you are talking to. Most likely, she will sense that you are harmless and will put her guards down.

3) Kiev is really cheap (I feel this since I live in Norway), enjoy this purchase power on something else apart from sex, while looking for sex.

The point is, don't be desperate and don't behave desperate. If you are, then go to expensive take out options, where the girls are waiting for you to come and pick her. After 2 decades of mongers flooding Ukraine, you think that girls do not know about why a tourist is trying to talk to a strange girl? They know, you have to make the conversation past that. I totally understand that not everyone is extrovert enough to do this. But then, guys who are introverts will have about 30% (yes, pulling the number from my hat) more chance than you country. Its not like you go to a girl, talk and she will fall into your lap (never going to happen, unless you make her think past the sex tourist question in her head).

My final request, stop all the negativity about this place, reader will get a negative vibe about Kiev and might backoff. This place is really nice, in all aspects. Purchase power / girls / clubs / food / energy. Just go there and sample them all.

I agree with your post with the exception, energy level is real low in Kiev. The City is dead most nights of the week, but very cheap and some find that real attractive. Not for me, I would rather work a little harder and go to destinations were the city is alive with life. , not the case in Ukraine. Odessa does have energy, but difficult to get girls there.

[Whomer]

With the strong right to have my own opinion, I do think that Ukraine is far better than western Europe and US. One thing I would say is that, there might be many who came to Kiev with a lot of hope but got burnt with prices and bad experiences. Well (in my opinion), these bad experiences are just because of your mistakes. If you behave as desperate sex tourists showing off money and status, then there are much more smarter (yet poorer) people who will take advantage of you. This is not only in Kiev but anywhere in the world. Just go there will reasonable expectation, and knowing that Kiev is "Comparably" better than the country you live in. No girl is going to fall into your lap asking for having sex with you in exchange of small money.

1) Know the place / clubs / coffee spots you are going to. Do your homework. If not, get burnt, Kiev is not going to make it super easy for anyone.

2) Be patient, you might not succeed in the first attempt, but don't behave desperate, be cool and behave as if you are not talking to the girl to get her to bed. Talk to her as if you genuinely are interested in something else other than the girl you are talking to. Most likely, she will sense that you are harmless and will put her guards down.

3) Kiev is really cheap (I feel this since I live in Norway), enjoy this purchase power on something else apart from sex, while looking for sex.

The point is, don't be desperate and don't behave desperate. If you are, then go to expensive take out options, where the girls are waiting for you to come and pick her. After 2 decades of mongers flooding Ukraine, you think that girls do not know about why a tourist is trying to talk to a strange girl? They know, you have to make the conversation past that. I totally understand that not everyone is extrovert enough to do this. But then, guys who are introverts will have about 30% (yes, pulling the number from my hat) more chance than you country. Its not like you go to a girl, talk and she will fall into your lap (never going to happen, unless you make her think past the sex tourist question in her head).

My final request, stop all the negativity about this place, reader will get a negative vibe about Kiev and might backoff. This place is really nice, in all aspects. Purchase power / girls / clubs / food / energy. Just go there and sample them all.

Excellent. Can't agree more with you.

[DramaFree11]

Relationships. Relationships. Relationships.

Go to Germany if it's all about sticking your dick in a hole.

Most go in the search of Relationship, nearly impossible now. I know what the girls say all, "Ukraine Guys are Bad. " Just not the case, most very nice, deep down 95% of the girls want a Ukraine Guy. Germany or Mexico much better options. For Relationships Russia.

[Misterxxx]

Mostly used: Uber, Yandex Taxi, Red Taxi. All three have smartphone apps. Enough for placing an order. Many drivers speak basic English. Or you can use Google translator.

I liked Red Taxi. Not sure which is better price wise, as some used mileage traveled and others used time by passenger inside the car, so incurred expense could vary depending on traffic congestion.

You forgot a big provider: Uklon.

https://www.uklon.com.ua/

Older and more widespread than Uber or Yandex.

Uber has lost a lot of money in the last two years in Ukraine.

There were tons of subsidies for taxi drivers.

This year, Uber and Yandex want to make money.

Uklon costs the taxi drivers 10 percent commission.

Uber 20 to 30 percent.

That's why there are more and more frauds with the Uber App.

Because taxi drivers want to earn as much with Uber as they did in the past.

[PhotoSlider]

What taxi service do you use in Kiev? Prefer English speaking dispatchers.

Mostly used: Uber, Yandex Taxi, Red Taxi. All three have smartphone apps. Enough for placing an order. Many drivers speak basic English. Or you can use Google translator.

I liked Red Taxi. Not sure which is better price wise, as some used mileage traveled and others used time by passenger inside the car, so incurred expense could vary depending on traffic congestion.

[Riina]

Younger girls stay with us older guys as long as we provide, and as Riina explained in not so many words girls have certain expectations at this commercial market. No freebies. They are great actresses. We are not Romeos for them. We are milked with different degree of intensity. Don't let them squeeze you dry.

Wise words, their's really no freebies for us older guys in Kiev. 99% of the contact we have with significantly younger girls is for money. If a girl just wants a good fuck, she's better off going to a bar and finding a young hard dick she can bang raw and without the risk of shame from dating grown up men.

[DramaFree11]

Which club do you think is a better hooker club, shooters or Caribbean?

I'm staying not far from Caribbean, 20 minutes walk.

Both are bad, Caribbean slightly better. Expect to pay between $100-200. Shooters a little more.

[Michi T]

What taxi service do you use in Kiev? Prefer English speaking dispatchers.

Either a taxi or a Uber. The taxi drivers basically English ok.

[Stefan 7]

Which club do you think is a better hooker club, shooters or Caribbean?

I'm staying not far from Caribbean, 20 minutes walk.

[Stefan 7]

What taxi service do you use in Kiev? Prefer English speaking dispatchers.

[PhotoSlider]

...The thought of a cutie sharing her pussy with an old tourist that doesn't want share back his support is probably one of the most disgusting notions a girl can imagine.

And that is precisely why during my next visit I do not want to see one of those girls, a very particular one.

She was exceptional for a long long time, yet during last coitus we had, she wasn't as skilful in pretending she loves me wholeheartedly for all the cash and support. No hard feelings, I am realistic. And there's sufficient substrate for me to strive for excellence and satisfaction.

Riina, I totally agree with your point. Allow me to retort some more please.

Perhaps for different visitors, there is a different perception of goodness. In the past some were happy with the very same GIA girl that others kicked out upon her arrival.

IMHO there is a gradient scale of what monger provides and how much he gets in return. I am not talking about a thousand bucks per night rip-offs.

On one end there are some of the good quality Rio girls, those that make an impact difficult to forget. On the other there are GFs, supposedly staying with us for fun, but there's certainly cost of food and drinks, room and entertainment, most importantly the price of our freedom to choose many other beauties instead of committing to a single one.

I never count time spent away from the job, because I am not paid by the hour, but unlike Kozerog I am not retired yet. So, by trial and error I figured out what keeps me happy, and built a deep enough base of phone numbers I can call.

Back to what Riina explained: two years ago I had a rather candid discussion with one of the GIA girls. 20 years old student, gorgeous, DFK, never ever objected to shagging at any time of the day or night. Wake her up, she smiles and goes as long as I have my erection. Anyway, many mentioned here as an explanation for their misfortunes, that Ukrainian girls prefer younger boys. That GIA lady that I fancied at the time, frowned at the mere mentioning of her peers, and did it in the most sincere manner. She definitely prefers older gentlemen. For many reasons. Money, personal comfort, safety, and generally speaking a better life style.

Younger girls stay with us older guys as long as we provide, and as Riina explained in not so many words girls have certain expectations at this commercial market. No freebies. They are great actresses. We are not Romeos for them. We are milked with different degree of intensity. Don't let them squeeze you dry.

[Riina]

Before you fly into Kiev planning to wet your forty something dick for free, maybe you should think it through logically and with some facts. All women want compensation for companionship. I was in my twenties the last time I found a girl that just wanted a good fuck. Ukrainians perceive all Westerners as rich and generally feel it's perfectly acceptable to extract what they can from foreigners with so much more then themselves. The thought of a cutie sharing her pussy with an old tourist that doesn't want share back his support is probably one of the most disgusting notions a girl can imagine.