Kyiv

[Limarian]

Sorry, these sites are complete Scam. My Ex owned a site and a good friend of mine managed a major site in Kiev. You are basically paying to meet a girl, with zero guarantee of sex. They may ask for expensive taxi rides, want you to pay for an translator, take you to expensive restaurant. She will get a cut from all of these services. It can get expensive very fast.

I am not sure why this is never brought up on this page, but it is a major issue.

My experience of L a few years back ended in a credit refund after my complaints.

I corresponded on the well presented site with a Prospect and after many paid messages I qualified for her contact email address.

At that point I hit a brick wall and was unable to get further responses. A waste of my time.

You just have to regard this as a fantasy exercise. Exciting at times but ultimately. "the rest is silence".

[DeepakPateluk]

Hi guys,

I am going to Kiev next month and wondering where would be the easiest to pick up semi pro's (students and workers looking for extra cash) and what is the going rate in Kiev, don't want to be ripped off and at the same time don't want to lose out thinking they are trying to rip me off.

I get the feeling 100 us dollars 1-2 is the going rate.

Thanks.

[TinyHippo]

If you go to Work dot UA, you will see a hundred ads looking for girls to be writers for marriage websites. They pay the girls to write men and to never meet them. Just string you along until you get tired of having spent $2500 to chat with a girl for two months. I hope everyone on this board is smarter than that.

[DramaFree11]

Marriage websites. Ukrainedate.

Sorry, these sites are complete Scam. My Ex owned a site and a good friend of mine managed a major site in Kiev. You are basically paying to meet a girl, with zero guarantee of sex. They may ask for expensive taxi rides, want you to pay for an translator, take you to expensive restaurant. She will get a cut from all of these services. It can get expensive very fast.

I am not sure why this is never brought up on this page, but it is a major issue.

[Vitrea]

Riina, I hope you are joking but in case you are not, I post after every visit. (you will see previous detailed reports of Rio from me). As a matter of fact, I am an avid reporter of my trips. Of course if I go to Rio twice in week, I may not make two posts. Also, writing repeatedly about the same club is a waste of everyone's time.

Re the advice about not speaking to the bouncers inside the club. I find it useful in my own way. People do what works for them. Even a nice smile, short chat and a decent tip at the coat check goes a long way for me. I am just sharing what I do and I am not preaching. Have fun.

I will be there soon to have some fun.

And you never bothered to share a field report here. I guess you were keeping it a secret.

Limit all contact with other men when it comes to mongering unless he is a pimp. There's a reason why locals ignore the bouncers and you should too.

[SumerFreaks]

Great and informative post with good analysis. I remember that secretary post earlier. That can be good strategy.

Can you suggest good marriage site that you talked about?

Any suggestions where to find semi-pros?

Also for apartment girls, any addresses or websites?

Marriage websites. Ukrainedate.

[Mexican Lover]

Great and informative post with good analysis. I remember that secretary post earlier. That can be good strategy.

Can you suggest good marriage site that you talked about?

Any suggestions where to find semi-pros?

Also for apartment girls, any addresses or websites?

[Riina]

I went there half a dozen times in two years,

And you never bothered to share a field report here. I guess you were keeping it a secret.

They were never rude. It also helps that I am a friendly guy myself. The rich locals ignore them and act like they don't exist. Me as a tourist, I chat them up. Example, while waiting for my girl to get ready. But regardless, over all they are a non issue.

Limit all contact with other men when it comes to mongering unless he is a pimp. There's a reason why locals ignore the bouncers and you should too.

[Riina]

All girls there are working, however, there are some situations when you can get a "I am only dancing" reply. It rarely happens, but it is a possibility. Maybe the girl already went out and feeling tired, maybe she is having a bad day.

It happens all the time for various reasons like lack of language or just not liking you. Kiev stripclubs are a ripoff that will lead to disappointment.

[Jojosun]

Anyone been to this club recently?

I did ask my long-term UA Wing woman to check it out for me as I am not in Kiev at present, so she went there with her GF but was told, it's 2000 UAH entry for both, security wasn't very welcoming, so she didn't proceed with the inspection.

This place was a Cafe, Asian Restaurant at the time back in the years when I used to Speed Interview Girls there whenever I stayed at Khreschatyk Hotel.

Apologies for the typo. Princess Strip Club not Process.

[NightRider16]

I went there half a dozen times in two years, They were never rude. It also helps that I am a friendly guy myself. The rich locals ignore them and act like they don't exist. Me as a tourist, I chat them up. Example, while waiting for my girl to get ready. But regardless, over all they are a non issue.

Regarding girls. Around 11 PM is a good time to go.

Thanks! I'm feeling a lot better about my trip now. This board is a great resource.

[Vitrea]

It is really interesting the different perspectives on Rio; some responses go as far as saying bouncers will assist with umbrellas and others say they are rude and not very helpful! I can't wait to get there next week and see for myself; I will post a report and add to this discussion!

I went there half a dozen times in two years, They were never rude. It also helps that I am a friendly guy myself. The rich locals ignore them and act like they don't exist. Me as a tourist, I chat them up. Example, while waiting for my girl to get ready. But regardless, over all they are a non issue.

Regarding girls. Around 11 PM is a good time to go.

[Jojosun]

Anyone been to this club recently?

I did ask my long-term UA Wing woman to check it out for me as I am not in Kiev at present, so she went there with her GF but was told, it's 2000 UAH entry for both, security wasn't very welcoming, so she didn't proceed with the inspection.

This place was a Cafe, Asian Restaurant at the time back in the years when I used to Speed Interview Girls there whenever I stayed at Khreschatyk Hotel.

[SFNative]

Both clubs are owned by the same person I believe. Tootsie looks really nice in there I like the light poles. The lady I saw at Tootsie worked at Rio the next day. I wonder if the ladies work both clubs that same day or switch clubs every other day. I was told you can go to both clubs but you have to pay for both and you can go between each clubs but I didn't try it out. I did a sauna and had a great time I did Wild West. 1700 Ukraine for 1 hour and cost more depend on what you want on menu.

[Member #4722]

It is really interesting the different perspectives on Rio; some responses go as far as saying bouncers will assist with umbrellas and others say they are rude and not very helpful! I can't wait to get there next week and see for myself; I will post a report and add to this discussion!

I have found the bouncers / managers there to be very cool. One escorted me down the street to ATM. Only taken two girls from there both hot, one was amazing one was a dud sent her away after 45 minutes.