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04-25-22 20:34 #22210
Posts: 516Remember Yogi Berra's famous quote
Originally Posted by HulaHoops [View Original Post]
Unless they have a crystal ball, today's news sources are irrelevant. Over the coming months and years I'm sure some will paint a rosy picture while others will dwell on the doom-and-gloom side of things. And both sides will probably be equally guilty of overgeneralizations and confirmation bias.
I sincerely doubt there's anyone around with significant experience mongering in the immediate aftermath of a brutalizing war. If anyone thinks the post-war period isn't going to be chaotic and emotionally charged, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you. It's my assertion that there will be a variety of women's attitudes toward foreigners, depending on that foreigner's nationality (and the perception of helpfulness vs unhelpfulness toward Ukraine) and depending on that woman's personal experiences.
A woman who lost family members, for example, is going to feel a lot of anger and hatred toward Russia and anyone she blames for enabling the war. Will she need money? Absolutely! But, for a monger from a hated country, she might be willing to do some truly nasty shit and justify it by saying they deserved it. I don't specifically know about past episodes in Ukraine of mongers being robbed, drugged, roughed up, or even killed, but it wouldn't surprise me to see a post-war increase in such incidents.
Again, I don't have a crystal ball, and I'm not offering predictions, just raising a cautionary note. But I am highly skeptical of anyone who thinks, with respect to the post-war environment in Ukraine, that they've got it all figured out. All I know is that, if I was visiting from Belgrade, Budapest, or Berlin, I certainly wouldn't be advertising that fact. Of course, if the hotel staff or Airbnb host have access to that info, that makes keeping it a secret a bit more problematic.
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04-25-22 17:36 #22209
Posts: 2794Originally Posted by HulaHoops [View Original Post]
They have trying to go to Europe for years, now they have there chance. Most will not want to go to the states, they know that Europe is better life and you have to work your ass off in the states.
Even when I was there 8 years ago the attitude to foreigners had changed.
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04-25-22 14:21 #22208
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
Ukrainians who lost loved ones can never rebuild their lives back the same.
I wouldn't expect to be greeted with cheering and flowers the day after the resolution of the conflict.
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04-25-22 13:14 #22207
Posts: 11Kiev- December 2021
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04-25-22 05:59 #22206
Posts: 43Reply
Guys,
You have to really question your source of news! On another forum that I am part of. I spoke to a member who was sharing negative news on Ukraine, he confessed that he was posting bad news ago Ukraine so that "he could discourage other foreigners from going to the country and he could have the best choice of women at the best price when he visited the country."
Anyone can see that prices are going to very cheap after the war and that women will be looking for men to provide for them. The demand for men with money to spend is going to be extremely high. Just watch out for people spreading bad news about why one shouldn't visit Ukraine.
Do you really think Ukrainian women will hate foreigners coming to their country after war? Of course not. They will look forward to it, especially those coming to spend money.
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04-25-22 03:18 #22205
Posts: 709Originally Posted by HulaHoops [View Original Post]
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04-24-22 23:05 #22204
Posts: 516Note of caution: All Westerners may not be viewed equally
Originally Posted by HulaHoops [View Original Post]
Consider that, in the minds of many, Ukraine is fighting against Putin on behalf of the West, and especially on behalf of Europe. I'm sure there will be a generally grateful attitude, but I don't think Ukraine will view Western weapons or aid as charity. Rather, and rightfully so (IMO), they'll see it as the price that had to be paid to fight Russian aggression. And they'll point out that Russia's threats against Moldova, the Baltics, the Nordics, and elsewhere, are evidence that Putin was never going to be satisfied with Ukraine only. Zelensky has been making this point on a regular basis and I expect he'll keep doing so.
One final group will be countries and their citizens viewed least favorably, and perhaps even with anger and overt hostility. Those will be countries viewed as either barely lifting a finger to help, being indifferent to Ukraine's fate, or perhaps even being actively sympathetic to Putin. That list will likely include countries like Serbia, Hungary, and Germany (within Europe) and countries like China (outside of Europe).
Obviously there will be different feelings depending on the individual, the region or city, and even those could change over time. My only point is that these are considerations that could realistically come into play and that anyone planning a post-war visit would be prudent to keep them in mind.
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04-24-22 09:55 #22203
Posts: 43Further reply
In fact I would say that once the war is over, westerners are going to be extremely highly valued in comparison to the local men.
As a man in my 60's, all the women I met (a lot of these women are in their 20's) and know from before are hounding me to let them know when I am arriving back in Kyiv. There was never this much interest in me before the war. I know once I go back to Kyiv when the war is over, it'll be a very enjoyable time for me.
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04-24-22 09:41 #22202
Posts: 43In summary
Ukraine after the war, will be a very attractive destination for tourists as I am sure it will be cheap and they will be extremely welcoming to western visitors who take an interest in their country.
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04-24-22 09:39 #22201
Posts: 43Reply
I'm in Berlin now and I was able to reflect on my time in Kyiv.
There really was no hostility, people were just scared and unsure what was going to happen if I am honest. They were just a lot of scared people. Of course during war, the native population is more important than foreigners. I stayed in touch with a lot of the men and women I met during my time in Kyiv and they are really looking forward and inviting me to come back when the war is over.
Now with seeing all that the west has done to help Ukraine and punish Russia. I would say Ukrainian people are looking forward to the war being over and foreigners coming to visit and help out Ukraine. Once the war is over, Ukraine will be one of the best places to visit for foreigners and I am sure everything will be cheap.
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04-22-22 12:52 #22200
Posts: 242I have misgivings about posting this, because it's hearsay, but I've been reading reports in other forums about hostile attitudes towards foreigners in Kyiv recently, worse in April than in March. Confirms what Hulahoops reports. Some of these people reporting hostility never left Kyiv, others recently returned to check on their apartments. Other reports say attitudes same as ever. Something to think about. If you have a particular girl you want to see, my advice is go to Chisinau, Moldova and have her take the bus there, versus you taking the bus to Kyiv. That's my plan for this summer.
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04-17-22 15:46 #22199
Posts: 675Pics?
Originally Posted by HulaHoops [View Original Post]
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04-09-22 15:29 #22198
Posts: 48Originally Posted by LuckyNuts [View Original Post]
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04-03-22 16:00 #22197
Posts: 623Originally Posted by Sorbonne [View Original Post]
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04-03-22 14:55 #22196
Posts: 558Gia
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