Kyiv

[HobbyMan6969]

Enjoying your reports Hobbyman, I am considering going next month. How was Caribean Club?

Would it be possible to pick up an older/fat girl in the Caribbean Club for 1000 or less?

I didn't hit on the older / fat girls so I can't really say if you can. You can definitely tell who are the ladies of the night and who aren't.

The legit ones older / fat girls that are there to party with their friends you can probably buy them a drink and suggest later to go to your place.

Maybe for gift (1000 gryvnia).

[Wanking]

Last resort I go to Caribbean club later on and see what talent is out there.

Enjoying your reports Hobbyman, I am considering going next month. How was Caribean Club?

Would it be possible to pick up an older/fat girl in the Caribbean Club for 1000 or less?

[TinyHippo]

Agree with Kozerog using KEC agency site for comparison and rating of Other girls as Photos and Prices are listed. There.

Rina's photos are not photoshoped and the girl looks like a care free student. A girl like her in a situation, set up, hanging around with a stereotype Monger in Kiev reminds me in a way of The film Breezy. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=38zpqhU_GcM.

Breezy s Pics can also be used in the Kiev Rating Guess Game and comparisons.

Never heard of that movie, but nice theme. I also did some research. Wow, he looks old for 55 and the actress was 20. Good reason not to smoke.

[TinyHippo]

' The greatest trick the devil ever pulled, was making men believe Kiev is paradise for mongers'.

Kiev really is a paradise. Similar cities like Warsaw, Minsk, Riga are dead zones in comparison for lazy (online) mongers. Maybe not if you are from India or something, but if you are from the EU or USA / similar country with money, you will have a good time if you spend a week there. My only problem with Kiev is it is a boring place to be a tourist. Lviv is much nicer, but much harder to land girls on the first or second date.

[Jojosun]

Agree with Kozerog using KEC agency site for comparison and rating of Other girls as Photos and Prices are listed. There.

Rina's photos are not photoshoped and the girl looks like a care free student. A girl like her in a situation, set up, hanging around with a stereotype Monger in Kiev reminds me in a way of The film Breezy. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=38zpqhU_GcM.

Breezy s Pics can also be used in the Kiev Rating Guess Game and comparisons.

[MagicSheep74]

Yes, Riina's photos, and what is needed is not yet another silly number but an answer to the following question: are girls like that typical of what agencies, strip clibs, etc offer currently, or are girls at agencies, etc typically better than Riina's girl, or are they typically worse, maybe much worse?

We could also use photos from KEC as basis for discussing prettiness of girls at hidden agencies, etc. KEC photos are real but they are staged glamour photos. A few posts back, I provided an example of how unrealistic glamour photography can be. Riina's photos have the advantage that he apparently made no effort to present the girl in best lighting like glamour photographers do, no fancy silk dress or lingerie to distract from the girl, no blurring of face, no photoshopping (I don't think), etc.

I have a social activity where I interact with ordinary Kyiv people, including ordinary university age girls. Trust me on this, there are lots of girls in Kyiv aged 19-22 much less pretty than Riina's girl. But if you want to call that girl a 4, okay. I suppose you'd call most girls in Kyiv 1, 2 or 3. My own regular, who I think is quite pretty, is also 4 or best 5 by your standards. Just goes to show I have no taste in women and am I a bigger loser in life than I ever imagined.

Incidentally, my regular has a set of glamour photos that make her look like a supermodel. This is what happens when you take a pretty girl and add war paint (makeup), battle armor (jewelry and fancy lingerie), fancy furnishings, good lighting, some light retouching, etc. Because I have this regular, I'm not currently in the market for rental girlfriends, but that regular could always disappear, so I like to be prepared by knowing what the market has to offer, which is why I continue to participate in this forum.

' The greatest trick the devil ever pulled, was making men believe Kiev is paradise for mongers'.

[TinyHippo]

Riina's photos?

The body is good. But the face? The hair is badly colored. The eyes are thick. Without her grin, the face would look even more ordinary. I guess a 4 or 5. Not even close to a 7. But often girls look better in reality than in photos.

4? You must be one of those guys that would not fuck a supermodel because she has a weird looking elbow.

[Kozerog]

Riina's photos?

Yes, Riina's photos, and what is needed is not yet another silly number but an answer to the following question: are girls like that typical of what agencies, strip clibs, etc offer currently, or are girls at agencies, etc typically better than Riina's girl, or are they typically worse, maybe much worse?

We could also use photos from KEC as basis for discussing prettiness of girls at hidden agencies, etc. KEC photos are real but they are staged glamour photos. A few posts back, I provided an example of how unrealistic glamour photography can be. Riina's photos have the advantage that he apparently made no effort to present the girl in best lighting like glamour photographers do, no fancy silk dress or lingerie to distract from the girl, no blurring of face, no photoshopping (I don't think), etc.

I have a social activity where I interact with ordinary Kyiv people, including ordinary university age girls. Trust me on this, there are lots of girls in Kyiv aged 19-22 much less pretty than Riina's girl. But if you want to call that girl a 4, okay. I suppose you'd call most girls in Kyiv 1, 2 or 3. My own regular, who I think is quite pretty, is also 4 or best 5 by your standards. Just goes to show I have no taste in women and am I a bigger loser in life than I ever imagined.

Incidentally, my regular has a set of glamour photos that make her look like a supermodel. This is what happens when you take a pretty girl and add war paint (makeup), battle armor (jewelry and fancy lingerie), fancy furnishings, good lighting, some light retouching, etc. Because I have this regular, I'm not currently in the market for rental girlfriends, but that regular could always disappear, so I like to be prepared by knowing what the market has to offer, which is why I continue to participate in this forum.

[Misterxxx]

What's the problem with answering the questions I asked? Namely, what did you think of Riina's girl, the one whose photo he posted? What is her rating number, if you insist on numbers, but more importantly, are girls equal in looks to her common at agencies, etc currently at typical 2000 uah / hour prices?

Same questions for HobbyMan6969. Instead of those useless ratings numbers, refer to Riina's photo.

Riina's photos?

The body is good. But the face? The hair is badly colored. The eyes are thick. Without her grin, the face would look even more ordinary. I guess a 4 or 5. Not even close to a 7. But often girls look better in reality than in photos.

[HobbyMan6969]

Since I have been in Kiev for the past week.

I have seen some hot 7-8 in the strip clubs, but they aren't guaranteed to go home with you.

Most were around 5-6 in looks.

As far as agencies I batting a zero as all of the girls seem to be fakes, they try and send some fat ugly girl to you.

I haven't gone to kec yet because I just find it expensive. Maybe at the end of my trip I'll book a girl.

I did go to chi to see what the hottest girls look like as locals, there were a lot of 7-8 in looks. You have to throw down a lot of money to keep them happy. Drinks / food / entertainment / gifts.

Wednesday night adventures: I went back to scarlette to try and take home the blonde I was really into. She said she wanted me to take her home today. So I go there and meet her and have drinks and food. About 1 1/2 hours later we leave after paying the 7400 gryvnia fee for take out. Now the disappointment, a mixture of having whiskey dick and that she was inexperienced aka dead fuck. She had to google translate talk to me so she asked if we could just sleep and I was like hell nah. I told her business is business so she said she recently got a boyfriend that made her mad that night. I was like I'll take care of you babe. However, my reality was that it was like fucking a dead fish the whole time, no emotion and no trying to make me feel good. I finished the deed around 1:20 am so I thought she was going to go back to the club and try to squeeze in some more money. However, she just went to sleep so I let her sleep. I read the girls usually go back to the strip club because they have to if under 5 am. Well, she slept the whole time and slept until 9:20 in the morning. I tried to get a 2nd pop but she wasn't having it and got dressed, walked outside to talk to her boyfriend and left crying. LOL well, I was hoping for a great night because I was so attracted to her. Well, I got until Oct. 2 to get in a few more bangs. I am going to try and walk around and get numbers for dates. My backup plan is mama, Caribbean club, and rio take out.

[Member #4722]

What's the problem with answering the questions I asked? Namely, what did you think of Riina's girl, the one whose photo he posted? What is her rating number, if you insist on numbers, but more importantly, are girls equal in looks to her common at agencies, etc currently at typical 2000 uah / hour prices?

Same questions for HobbyMan6969. Instead of those useless ratings numbers, refer to Riina's photo.

I don't want to rag on Riina that's why I didn't respond. Face looked ugly to me but the photos were blurry. Looked like a hot body but some girls with nice legs can have a little in the middle. Girls with tight tummy never hide it in pictures.

[Kozerog]

Never gone below 4 so will start there.

4. Would do very drunk would not tell my friends.

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What's the problem with answering the questions I asked? Namely, what did you think of Riina's girl, the one whose photo he posted? What is her rating number, if you insist on numbers, but more importantly, are girls equal in looks to her common at agencies, etc currently at typical 2000 uah / hour prices?

Same questions for HobbyMan6969. Instead of those useless ratings numbers, refer to Riina's photo.

[Muddy7]

I haven't gone to kec yet because I just find it expensive. Maybe at the end of my trip I'll book a girl..

Noticed KEC has increased their prices, example, for anal its now $130, it was $100.

Fukk KEC, some of the girls I have seen on their site worked before in the apartments charging 2000 grivna per hour.

[SloPhoto1990]

The prices fall if you speak the national language. Foreign language = you pay more. You are young, slim, attractive? Then the prices are also smaller. That's law.

But asking over Whatsapp for the price is the same for all I guess as she can not see you.

But it is our own fault prices go up anyway. Because we pay them. Because we go on vacation and we don't care if we pay maybe 3 times for sex and it is 50 euro, or if we pay 60 euro. At the end, it is really little difference. Those 3 x 10 only make 30 and it is not such a big deal, you go to spend money for the weekend or a week anyway. But because we pay them, of course prices go up as we obviously agree with them. It is not just for sex, it is for everything. Imagine nobody paying anymore for sex for a week, prices would be super cheap as they would take what they can get. Or the world ignoring pubs, not going for a beer for a week. Eventually it would be cheap as water.

[Misterxxx]

I can totally sign under that question / topic. We all want to know what should we except to see in any city for the particular price. It is so hard to judge a girl from 1-10 because we all like different things. But even if we can agree that some individual girl is 7 or 8 or something, we want to know what is the price for that. I personally plan to go to Kiev because it is cheap, but reading that you can get sex for 1500 uah does not necessarily mean much. I am pretty sure you can get sex for 10 or 20 euro some random god forsaken places if you pick a junkie or some gypsy girl totally over age, if you are into that. What most of us want to know, what is the starting price for a 18-25 y old slim and attractive friendly girl.

The prices fall if you speak the national language. Foreign language = you pay more. You are young, slim, attractive? Then the prices are also smaller. That's law.

Otherwise: In 2019 there is almost no chance as a foreigner to meet a young, thin and beautiful girl for under $ 100. Plan more money. The competition (men) is very big this year. The number of attractive women as low as ever. I was in Kyiv, Lviv and Odessa this summer.

In particular, Odessa. Five years ago it was not a problem to get a young girl for 1000 UAH. That was 30 euros. More beautiful girls than you can imagine. This year: Odessa was full. But where were the available beautiful girls? Itaka, Ibiza, beach clubs, beach? Alone from the point of view, a minus of 50 percent compared to 5 years ago. In number and beauty. But five times more sex tourists than before.