Kyiv

[KSensations]

Hello guys!

I am Ukrainian and living in Kiev almost 3 years) If you have some questions related to your visits to Ukraine / Kiev. Please, don"t hesitate to ask, I will try to help.

Questions about girls / meets are also relevant.

[Volpone]

Very good comments SgtBoyle2.

I have been here for 1 month now. Well you can still get a cheaper price on mamba, after some hard work on it, but the girl is either below average quality or just average, so I even didn't bother getting one new. I just used my old contacts, they are so preeeeeeeeeecccccccccccciiiiiiiioooooouuuuussssss now, they are like gold, because with them you can get cheaper price and good services.

Some girls agree to come for 1500 UAH, but without BBBJ. Then you have to add another 1000 UAH. I am talking here about the non-pros, the amateurs girls and not about the many pros that have their flat and welcome you there if you want. Pros usually go for 1500 with BJ and 2500 with BBBJ included. Here I mean pros on Mamba. There are other ways to find some cheaper pros, but the quality is usually lower.

So after one month, I could get at the end a new girl. Well I had to pay a bit more than foreseen. She started with the price of 150 $ for 1 hour, hey forget it. But I don't know how it happened, she suddenly offered the price of 2000 UAH for 1 hour. The girl looks great on her photos, I would say a 9. ( She has a little something of Paris Hilton, well just a little). So with such a discount, why not meeting her and to see first if she is the girl on the photos. As you know I already have my contacts for around 1000 UAH for one hour with BBBJ, 69 and sex. However this time I was feeling to see if I could get a new one like I could get them so easily in Summer.

So she came on time. Great. I picked her up in the street, I spoke with her only in Russian even if I knew she could speak English. She complimented me for my Russian even if it sucks. She is like on the photos, a 9, a real pearl. She wanted the money right away. I said, that I will put the money near her bag, then she will take it when she leaves. She agreed with that. That was a bad sign. Anyway we had a shower together, good sign. Then I licked her pussy and then I put my dick near her face and she asked for a condom. Waow, that's right she never agreed for a BBBJ. Big mistake but it was on purpose. I decided before getting her taking the risk not having a BBBJ. So I said to her, that I don't like with condom. And she did it. I got a very long BBBJ in 69 and then just a BBBJ and I could watch her beautiful face. Then sex. The whole session lasted around 45 minutes. After sex we talked and she told me she was in Dubai (in a beauty contest) , Turkey (many times), China (for modelling), Paris (she wasn't impressed) .

In conclusion I just had some luck after one month of tough work on Mamba. She just needed some money right away or she liked the fact that I could speak some Russian, even if she can speak English or for any other reasons, I don't know. Guys if you count on Mamba, you could wank in your flat or in your hotel room. I am so happy to have my old contacts.

It's been said before but I wanted to add my comments to all those previous posts that have complained about prices and professionalism in Kiev and about how all the best girls are now no longer in Kiev. Having just returned from Ukraine here are some examples of how the girls have become or are in the process of becoming hardcore jet setting escorts with prices to match:

Example 1.

Took a really lovely young lady back to my hotel who was sold to me as not being very experienced in escorting. She was indeed sweet and gentle but as I went down to dine on her why I couldn't help but observe that her arse bore all the signs of a well traveled passage. Talking later she told me that she had not visit Western Europe but had been to Emirates and Dubai! I wonder why?

Example 2.

Got a nice enough girl from Mamba who told me how she had started out in Shooters and was now saving up for a visa.

Example 3.

In a restaurant when I couldn't help but hear an attractive hooker tell her client how she had just got back from Barbados.

Example 4.

Took an attractive lady in her mid twenties out from Buddha Bar who told me that my 5 star hotel was not a patch on the one she had stayed at in Oman.

This is new reality. All the girls now know that the going rate is at least $100 and many of the girls have already sampled the delights of Dubai and expect to be paid accordingly.

In this new reality us old timers are forced back on to our existing contacts. For those newbies I suggest you contact our favorite pimp Andrei to show you the ropes. PM me if you want his details.

Anyone hoping to stumble on a hidden gem in a bar / club these days is delusional.

[NoMarriage]

Hey guys,

New to the game. What happened to mamba? I just signed on and started talking to girls. I am also looking on travel-girls too. Trying to plan a trip from west coast USA because tired of Latin America. Any tips on Ukraine would be great. It seems like Kiev is played out. Can someone list the areas, places, or sites where I can find semi pros working in a blue moon for necessity? I don't like the way rent a cars drive. PM me I am looking for someone to show me around. Like in Medellin I like to pretty girls who are nice.

[SgtBoyle2]

It's been said before but I wanted to add my comments to all those previous posts that have complained about prices and professionalism in Kiev and about how all the best girls are now no longer in Kiev. Having just returned from Ukraine here are some examples of how the girls have become or are in the process of becoming hardcore jet setting escorts with prices to match:

Example 1.

Took a really lovely young lady back to my hotel who was sold to me as not being very experienced in escorting. She was indeed sweet and gentle but as I went down to dine on her why I couldn't help but observe that her arse bore all the signs of a well traveled passage. Talking later she told me that she had not visit Western Europe but had been to Emirates and Dubai! I wonder why?

Example 2.

Got a nice enough girl from Mamba who told me how she had started out in Shooters and was now saving up for a visa.

Example 3.

In a restaurant when I couldn't help but hear an attractive hooker tell her client how she had just got back from Barbados.

Example 4.

Took an attractive lady in her mid twenties out from Buddha Bar who told me that my 5 star hotel was not a patch on the one she had stayed at in Oman.

This is new reality. All the girls now know that the going rate is at least $100 and many of the girls have already sampled the delights of Dubai and expect to be paid accordingly.

In this new reality us old timers are forced back on to our existing contacts. For those newbies I suggest you contact our favorite pimp Andrei to show you the ropes. PM me if you want his details.

Anyone hoping to stumble on a hidden gem in a bar / club these days is delusional.

[YellowPaul]

Thank you for your advice. Table split seems a great idea, though it costs some. Has anybody tried a table split? How much did it cost and where? How were the girls, as compared to the girls whom you could meet otherwise, for example on the bar?

1) Find a wingman preferably that speaks Russian - $250 each is better then $500.

2) Make sure you tell them you want a table near the dance floor to be noticed. Tell the waiter your limit for instance $500 is the minimum amount you have to spend as you can rack up a huge bill if your not careful.

3) You don't have to get a table and hang out near the bar but sometimes they give foreigners a hard time insisting on bottle service. Better to go early since the place is a restaurant too. Dress to impress. Your not getting in with a sweater and running shoes.

4) Tip the security / wait staff good as they can bring over girls if you lack game or don't speak Russian.

5) Most girls here are not "working" per say but great place to get #'s for later and see some of best quality that Kiev has to offer.

6) Order the cheapest sparkling white wine and tell the girls it's "champagne" ... hard to know what a girl will drink but nobody turns down champagne. Avoid girls that don't drink period... I never had a good experience with a girl like that.

7)) For the monger looking for a cheap bang. Avoid most of the clubs.

[Tomas11]

I and this girl made a huge discussion. She says that even if apply here and Qatar grants a visa, Ukraine will not allow her to leave the country. She says that she talked to their embassy, bla bla bla.

This is hard to believe. What do you think?

She then said that she will apply for Qatar visa in Ukraine. I think that she is fooling me.

Yes she is fooling you, don't know the purpose, most likely to pull some cash from you.

[Deer1234]

Chi is the #1 high end disco with some working girls but mostly a regular crowd if you have game. If you can get a wing man $400-$500 min charges for a table split is well spent if you want to see the best that Kiev has to offer.

Thank you for your advice. Table split seems a great idea, though it costs some. Has anybody tried a table split? How much did it cost and where? How were the girls, as compared to the girls whom you could meet otherwise, for example on the bar?

[EnricoMacias]

Dear mongers,

I have a colleague whose GF is a cabin crew in Etihad in Dubai. They met when she was working for Qatar Airways 2 years ago, she worked 1 years for QA then transferred to Etihad . Anyhow, my colleague applied Qatar visa for her Ukrainian GF through an agency in Qatar. Qatar rejected first application, my friend applied again in the same day and Qatar issued a visa. She will come to Qatar 28 December. I asked my colleague. He said that, he filled the forms, all he needed was a photo of her girlfriends passport. (in order to fill the required info) and 200 hundred dollar application fee. The also mentioned that the form was mostly for him as a guarantor / sponsor and there is only 2-3 info required for the GF.

Anyhow, I wanted to follow the same procedure for a girl in Ukraine. I want her to come here for one week or 15 days. I said her that I will follow the same procedure, We should apply even if 99% Qatar supposed to reject. All risk is at my side, 200 dollars I will pay for the application.

I and this girl made a huge discussion. She says that even if apply here and Qatar grants a visa, Ukraine will not allow her to leave the country. She says that she talked to their embassy, bla bla bla.

This is hard to believe. What do you think?

She then said that she will apply for Qatar visa in Ukraine. I think that she is fooling me.

[HugeDickMan]

Where are some regular bars where I can pick up some pros? Where do streetwalkers hang out?

[Jojosun]

One thing I can attest is that my Kiev girl is pretty charming.

Well if she wasn't, you wouldn't have have taken her to the DR, would you??

Cheers.

[Sorbonne]

But as in my post below its up to the Immigration officer if he or she waives the need for a transit visa if one is leaving the next day.

One thing I can attest is that my Kiev girl is pretty charming.

[Raffzahn]

You'll never need a Visa in for Germany if you stay within the international area when changeing in Munich or Frankfurt. These airports feature split field sides for international connections and domestic. Passport checks are only done when changing from international to domestic.

Raffzahn: It's not true. Read my message. You are right if you book the flight on one ticket with one confirmation number. If you book 2 separate tickets she needs a visa. Even if she don't want to leave the transit area. The first airline don't know about the 2nd ticket and another flight and they will check the visa in the passport. No visa = They reject her in Kiev, because they are responsible for her and have to pay a huge penalty + have to bring her back to Kiev if there is any problem with the other flight.

LOL. Could say the same, read my message!

But serious, why did German airports spend so much money in building complete seperate areas, tunnels and gateways for transfer passengers? It's because of German policies regarding transfer passengers. They do not legaly enter the country at all, and border controll does not care about them (unlike in the UK).

So again, there is no legal or practical reason stoping her from changing airlines in Germany, as long as both flights originate / end in non Schengen places. Now, if some airline makes a fuzz, it's not a principal issue. And your obligation as a gentleman to make it happen, for exampel by providing all neccersarry information to your lady (and thus the airline) ahead of time.

H.

[Misterxxx]

You'll never need a Visa in for Germany if you stay within the international area when changeing in Munich or Frankfurt. These airports feature split field sides for international connections and domestic. Passport checks are only done when changing from international to domestic.

Raffzahn: It's not true. Read my message. You are right if you book the flight on one ticket with one confirmation number. If you book 2 separate tickets she needs a visa. Even if she don't want to leave the transit area. The first airline don't know about the 2nd ticket and another flight and they will check the visa in the passport. No visa = They reject her in Kiev, because they are responsible for her and have to pay a huge penalty + have to bring her back to Kiev if there is any problem with the other flight.

[Raffzahn]

You do not need a transit visa if she's flying into FRA airport. She would only need one if she is transiting to more than one EU country (for example, Ukraine-Germany-France-Dominican Republic).

The reason is quite simple, as the flight Germany / France is a domestic (Schengen) flight. To take it she needs to legaly enter Shengen area, which requires a visa. Only direct connections between two flights leading from / to non Schengen countries can be connected without a visa. And only on airports prepared to offer this service. Usually the larger ones, like Frankfurt and Munich.

H.

[Raffzahn]

I agree with Misterxxx on the need of visa when booked with separate tickets but disagree with him on the need of visa for the UK.

My UA girl flew from Kiev through London and Frankfurt to DR all booked on one ticket in 2014.

She did not need a transit visa just to change the airlines within a few hours at Frankfurt.

But she also did not need a transit visa for an overnight stay in London, and they even let her out Heathrow on both ways! She wandered into London and had a blast! She probably had better time in London than in DR with me.

You'll never need a Visa in for Germany if you stay within the international area when changeing in Munich or Frankfurt. These airports feature split field sides for international connections and domestic. Passport checks are only done when changing from international to domestic. In the UK it depends very much on terminal and airline used, but usually you'll have to go thru passport checks. And when traveling on multiple tickets multiple tickets this usually requires a (transfer) visa for citizens of many countries, including UA.

H.