Kyiv

[Pua88]

I tried it. Didn't work (Says your profile is blocked bla bla bla. I have photos more than 400. Each time I open new profile, I upload different 5-6 photos. But I just don't understand one point : as soon as I upload my photo, systems says me "moderator rejected your photo" this happens after 1 second I upload my photo. How they can recognize me? Many photos. All different places, different clothes. But if I upload another man's photo, system approves it. Even if it is a nude man photo. I asked the moderator maybe ten times, but no answer.

I open a new profile, I upload several photos, my profile would be blocked after minutes. I really don't understand what is this. I don't write anything about "financial support" or something else in my profile page. Even I don't have time to send messages to girls because immediately my profile is blocked. Now I am mongering on vk and loveplanet. Ru I really don't understand what mamba tries to do! I decided to be register mamba with fake photos because all is fine with fake photos. But really it is impossible for mamba to recognize my identity from my photos.

The mamba moderator is probably a girl you didn't call back)

[Kiev Freak]

I tried it. Didn't work (Says your profile is blocked bla bla bla. I have photos more than 400. Each time I open new profile, I upload different 5-6 photos. But I just don't understand one point : as soon as I upload my photo, systems says me "moderator rejected your photo" this happens after 1 second I upload my photo. How they can recognize me? Many photos. All different places, different clothes. But if I upload another man's photo, system approves it. Even if it is a nude man photo. I asked the moderator maybe ten times, but no answer.

I open a new profile, I upload several photos, my profile would be blocked after minutes. I really don't understand what is this. I don't write anything about "financial support" or something else in my profile page. Even I don't have time to send messages to girls because immediately my profile is blocked. Now I am mongering on vk and loveplanet. Ru I really don't understand what mamba tries to do! I decided to be register mamba with fake photos because all is fine with fake photos. But really it is impossible for mamba to recognize my identity from my photos.

[Guntherus]

Try this. Simple trick once helped me out: by sign-in, click 'forgot my password, ' and Mamba will ask for your email address you made registration from, send message to it, which you have to confirm. Then Mamba (or their server) will send new password. This did the trick for me, with this new password I could access my profile again. Guess they simply had some trouble in the system and could not respond to all customers.

If not successful, write administration. I think sending money will not help.

Please help me. I cannot register mamba. I really can't understand what this is.

[Limarian]

Night one.

Enough of the fashion tip stuff – here's the real thing, packed with useful tips for middle aged twats like me who just want to eff pretty gals.

Wiz air from Luton – 12. 50 pm, £150 return. Parking in nearby compound. Because of airport based hassles, had to run to the plane arriving sweating and upset. Hadn't realised new 'one cabin bag' policy meant my shoulder bag had to be emptied out, then was challenged over size of plastic liquid bag. Usual long security queues. I will buy priority security route in next time. At least extra leg room option on plane made it a slightly less uncomfortable two and a half hours.

I stay at Partner Guest House – 19 Baseina St which has been great in the past three years, but this time room a bit pokey. £270 for five nights. Lift temporarily broken – a drag having to walk to my appt on floor seven. Stupid key system locked me out of my room – more panic as I was awaiting a massage girl from Evita at the time– I had used `Dolly 'in the past – very nice but only hand job allowed. I got further with these guys (choice of 2 sevens sent) for $100 and was very happy, although much pissing around with excuses for lateness dragging on and on . Which seems typical and makes timing of taking 150mg Viagra for maximum effect a bit tricky. Had shower and a walk round the town – bought basic food from nearby supermarket on edge of nearby Kreschatic St (Same thug guys hanging about, same sad alkies all over the place) and went back to sleep.

Day 2.

Woke with raging horn and spent ages attempting to find a girl from erotic massage sites. Dolly not answering phone, Evita only speaking Russian, Euphotia messed me about for two hours and I gave up on them– I must have spent a fortune on calls – as couldn't get local SIM card to work. Eventually found the number for 'Best' on this site posted by ClimaxNow in early Sept) , popped 100mg, to be on the safe side and waited 'till they sent a pretty long legged girl for $125. Took an hour and numerous chasing calls to the agency 100 yards away. These girls give true GFE – where do they learn that – to cuddle and look after you so passionately and lovingly, smile at you. If only my ex wife etc. Anyway, thoroughly sorted now. After the morning of passion I am completely despunked and totally relaxed. A pleasant walk about the Arena Amusement place opposite and a salad over the road girl watching. There is no understanding of customer care – long waits for things and defensiveness. The waitresses are better but there seems to be a culture of downright ignorance and aggressiveness from guys here. Back to listen to the news quiz on the computer and a nice milky coffee.

The divisions here are huge and obvious with matt black land rover Brabus and big new bmw x5s on the road versus the have not and never will haves. This is exactly what is happening in the uk with city workers and grubbing politicians

[Kiev Freak]

Please help me. I cannot register mamba. I really can't understand what this is.

[Prosal]

But the women, there is a constant wonder. You have typical slavic devushkas with strong face, there are blackhaired and brunette latinas, asian looking girls, you have scandinavian country-girls looking like Claudia Schiffer, voluptous blonds a la Pamela Anderson, there are birdie-like brunettes like Vicky Beckham, friendly-face turkish girl, some look like egyptian queen or greek goddess. There is no end to this, and this is only the outward look, then there are probably more types if you go into the psyche.

Many people think that FSU girls are all pale and skinny blondes. They are dead wrong. They obviously know nothing about the history of this part of the world. They also surely never heard of the Tatars, Mongols, Khazars, Turks, ect ect invasions. FSU population is the result of centuries of tumultuous history and mixes. Whatever a look a guy is into, if he doesn't find it in FSU, it is probably that it doesn't exist (granted, save black and meztico). Guys who say that Brasil has the most ethnically various population in the world talk out of their ass. FSU has the most ethnically various population in the world. And as a side note, Uzbekistan is where it is the most obvious.

[Kiev Freak]

Hi guys, I need help about mamba. I was member of mamba for 1 year. Never put porn photos, never disturb other people by rude messages. Etc. My profile was blocked about 1 month ago. And after that, I tried to register mamba several times. I cleared cookies, changed ip address even even I used different phone numbers and different mail address to register each time. I can register succesfully. But when I upload my photos, mamba blocks my profile immediately. First I thought the system recognize the names of image files. I changed the names of image files. It doesn't work. Mamba still bans me. Second, I use my new photos. But still, as soon as I upload my own photos,"moderator" rejected my photos and my profile is banned immediately. So I decided to make a test. I found random men photos from google. Even some of them is nude. I uploaded randomly. Moderator approved photos. My profile is not banned. However, as soon as I upload my real photos again, the profile is banned again. What the f*ck? There is anyone to know what is happening? Before I really spend good money in mamba. Some days 50 $ I spend at once. I never make spams. There are many profiles full of adult photos and prostitution and mamba approved them. But my photos permanantly banned. How can it be possible? As I said, I tried to register with different phone numbers, different photos, ip address, different names. Didn't work. Mamba can recognize my face and block my profile as soon as I upload my real photos. i upload my real photos. after seconds, i see that my photos rejected by "moderator" and i got this mesage :

"Some uploaded photos do not meet posting guidelines Unified Dating. Therefore, they have been rejected and some time will be permanently removed from the system. When re-posting photos not meet posting guidelines, your profile may be blocked."

And after that, my profilee is blocked. i tried to register maybe ten times. all same. rejected photos and blocked my profile.

How can it be possible? What I can do to join mamba again? Last time they deleted my profile that I had just upload 100 $. This is really rip off.

[Guntherus]

Had some pleasant days in Kiev and guess I should submit a report. ISG notes and advice help a lot, so keep writing, and start writing, those of you who haven't.

My last day I had planned an evening-date with a 40 yo. Freebie (I already sixty). Still I I was horny in the morning hours and tried to connect to contacts from Mamba, but they were either busy at university or out of town for the day. Took a walk in the afternoon, dressed on purpose like a crazy foreigner, and what do you know? On Basseyna a guy tries to hand me out cards, very discreetly. Asked him if I could see and he took me to meet three girls, but none of who appealed to me, so I gave him 50hra peaceoffering and left. Saved some 600hr there. Waited for my date, went for dinner with her and then into apartment. Made some photos of those endless long legs and still perky tits, which ultimately led to great, endless sex, even when waiting for taxi she came twice! Great girl, fourth time we meet, and I could fall in love with her! She has a regular job and daughter, overnight was not an option.

But this was my last night and I did not want to sleep too much, so at 1 am I went to Avalon, as this is very close. Few people as this was mid-week, maybe 20-30 studentkas and 5-10 older pretty obviously working their way through the night. I went dancing and then had a drink at the bar. Very soon a thirtyish tall amazonian looking girl spoke to me. Real beauty with a body to keep your hands busy, but I didn't fancy her at the time. Regrettably I didn't ask for her phone for later, but her name was Anna (not Anastasia, as I suggested). Anyway, I had already spotted another on the dance floor, even taller student girl, but she had left, so I was on my way out when I met her on the stairs. Quickly established contact and offered her something to eat, as I wasn't sure on what terms she was there. Her name was Jana. 180 and 21yo, she was with a friend. To make the story short, she came for fun in my apartment, total sensation in bed, but very strict on her time frame. Guess that is a good presupposition for practicing dentist, which she said she is studying. She wanted out of bed much sooner than I had estimated. This pissed me off, but I would meet her again sometime for 200 USD.

It never stops to amaze me how many different types of girls you find in Kiev. I am talking about looks. The men all look the same, except some are thin, some are fat and some very fat. And, yes, some are darkhaired, some are grey, and some are bald. But the women, there is a constant wonder. You have typical slavic devushkas with strong face, there are blackhaired and brunette latinas, asian looking girls, you have scandinavian country-girls looking like Claudia Schiffer, voluptous blonds a la Pamela Anderson, there are birdie-like brunettes like Vicky Beckham, friendly-face turkish girl, some look like egyptian queen or greek goddess. There is no end to this, and this is only the outward look, then there are probably more types if you go into the psyche. But basically, all of them come to some stage, and then they want sex. That is something we have to do s-g about! So keep busy.

[YellowPaul]

After getting back and getting a chance to reflect back on my first trip to Kiev, hopefully it might be useful of other newbie's heading out there.

1) Accommodation: Apartment is the way to go, I used Airbnb with the link to the place below which a beautifully restored apartment with a nice balcony, Jacuzzi and a sauna. The best part was it located at next door to a McDonald's and a Metro station where I could easily meet people as I prefer that to letting a girl that I have not met before come to the apartment.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/52676

2) Strip Clubs: I was disappointed with Rio. We could not get a table as it was a busy Friday night and most of the girls I thought looked like they had a lot of mileage on them. Drinks were expensive as I paid about $140 Gurvina HRY for a Grey Goose on the rocks. Also went to Star Rhino at 11:30 pm on a Sat night and I was surprised how dead it was. I got a dance from a super hot 20 year old who acted more a Go Go dancer then turning me on. She even refused to take off her bottom despite it was suppose to a private dance ($200HRY for 2 dances). I guess such is service in the FSU.

3) Clubs. I hit up Buddha Bar where is seemed it was the playground for the rich American's business type's. Oddly there were more guys then women when I was there on Sat night. Avalon hit it up on the a Wed night with lots of working girls. I always look for a vibe with a girl. For instance if they refuse to have alcoholic drink with me it's a sign as they end up being all business and I usually go with my instinct on this and move on. Took home a average looking 33 year old for $200 but I guess she would have taken even $100 for all night and she did a great job and left at 8am. Went to D'Lux twice and Sky Bar on Friday night. Where face control always make sure to look at my shoes! I found that with a large amount of regular girls on the weekends it was not always easy to tell who was working and who was not. Basically if you add up the cover, drinks, taxi and having a late night since the clubs don't get busy to almost 1am it can be a expensive and late night. 1 night we did get bottle service at D'Lux with a great table right in front of the dance floor, it felt great like I was back in Vegas. Personally I would only use clubs as back up on my next trip. The going rate seemed to be $200 for 2-3 hours for "8" type of girl.

4) Websites. Mamba offered the best value but it really requires and a lot planning and effort. I had a few girls I paid only $200 for all day and night. Best was a 20 year old who never asked for money up front and was eager to please.

Overall: The semi-pro market is what really interests me but that will require a lot of more effort and to build contacts as the amount of quality women is quite outstanding on the streets but it also requires knowing basic Russian. Another website I did use was rabota. Ua which a normal job seeking website where I got a lot response for regular girls who willing to be a English translator for $10 hour. I decided not to go with this option it might have potential in the future.

PY

[Pua88]

/// Dlux, budda is about the worst places I could think of finding a hot dievuska for a night. ///

Buddha & Dlux are perhaps not so easy but at least you can find there some "hot" girls, if you speak Russian, choose the right girl & know what to say.

I doubt you will find same quality in shooters / vodka bar or local live music pubs.

[Tomux 22]

Hi Guys. Haven't posted on ISG for years. I am an old man in late 20s now.

I have only been here for 1 night so maybe I am jumping the gun. Thought I'd give my first impressions.

I love this city, the architecture, the sense of history, the people are warm and friendly. But.

Sorry to say it but I was expecting big things and have been disappointed. I have walked the city all day with my friend in the sun, and I'm afraid that Ukranian women are a bit overrated. London is much better for variety and quality of women walking the streets. I'm sure this will [CodeWord140] you all off but there needs to be a reality check here I feel. Don't get me wrong there Ukranian girls have great figures and great hair, but the hit rate is no higher than any other western european city.

Last night we went to buddha bar, and dlux but wasn't anything there to get my wallet out for particularly. No freebies in spite of chatting up anything with a pulse. Some nice chicks but just not enough of them. No particular interest in me or my friends. Too young? Too ugly? Who knows.

In desperation we went to the notorious Rio strip club. I asked my ukranian mate earlier (who had gone home) whether he recommended the place, expecting him to say no don't touch that expat dive but surprisingly he was quite positive about it. However.

When we got there at approx 3. 30am I couldn't believe my eyes. I thought we had gone to the wrong place. There were 2 tiny stages, and the girls were not even fully nude. Some were not even topless. WTF! Identified a couple of targets and with the help of the very friendly bar manager slash pimp managed to get them over to talk. Both wanted 300 bucks for 2 hours! Tried to bargain them down to 200 but they wouldn't even entertain it and seemed quite pissed off. I wasnt drunk or aggressive, I know how to behave I am not a yob. Are these prices normal? Didn't buy 'because they just weren't fit enough.

I'm afraid to say that I fear I am just another young western pickup artist coming to eastern europe expecting girls to be everywhere and who will throw themselves at him when in fact the reality is that for the older men Ukraine is a honey pot 'because the chicks are all about the benjamins, but for the younger male it's no better than anywhere else. I can drop 200 bucks and get laid in any european city including my own.

Will see how it goes over the weekend. Any advice of venue appreciated. Looking for semi-pros.

I am in my mid 20s and for me Ukraine dose feel like a heaven. Dlux, budda is about the worst places I could think of finding a hot dievuska for a night. Try to think of what disadvantages FSU men do have and make it into your advantage. You need first to understand how these women think. Only thing they need is an illusion, passion and to feel human. My gf was avoiding sex with her ex bf and there is several reasons for it, now she is screaming for dikk. And I am not say I am worlds greatest lover, but there is many components to get them there a small bricks you put together like a puzzle.

[Wildout]

Some things came up at our Dubai office and I had to expedite my departure date, so I'll be flying out tomorrow evening. This evening will be my last, and if possible, would be nice to finally meet some of you folks from this forum. Perhaps after 6pm or so. Somewhere in the city center.

I have yet to visit Premiere Palace. Someone just decide on a place / time to meet and let me know of the Dress code and I'll be there.

[LilJoey]

Hi Guys. Haven't posted on ISG for years. I am an old man in late 20s now.

I have only been here for 1 night so maybe I am jumping the gun. Thought I'd give my first impressions.

I love this city, the architecture, the sense of history, the people are warm and friendly. But.

Sorry to say it but I was expecting big things and have been disappointed. I have walked the city all day with my friend in the sun, and I'm afraid that Ukranian women are a bit overrated. London is much better for variety and quality of women walking the streets. I'm sure this will [CodeWord140] you all off but there needs to be a reality check here I feel. Don't get me wrong there Ukranian girls have great figures and great hair, but the hit rate is no higher than any other western european city.

Last night we went to buddha bar, and dlux but wasn't anything there to get my wallet out for particularly. No freebies in spite of chatting up anything with a pulse. Some nice chicks but just not enough of them. No particular interest in me or my friends. Too young? Too ugly? Who knows.

In desperation we went to the notorious Rio strip club. I asked my ukranian mate earlier (who had gone home) whether he recommended the place, expecting him to say no don't touch that expat dive but surprisingly he was quite positive about it. However.

When we got there at approx 3. 30am I couldn't believe my eyes. I thought we had gone to the wrong place. There were 2 tiny stages, and the girls were not even fully nude. Some were not even topless. WTF! Identified a couple of targets and with the help of the very friendly bar manager slash pimp managed to get them over to talk. Both wanted 300 bucks for 2 hours! Tried to bargain them down to 200 but they wouldn't even entertain it and seemed quite pissed off. I wasnt drunk or aggressive, I know how to behave I am not a yob. Are these prices normal? Didn't buy 'because they just weren't fit enough.

I'm afraid to say that I fear I am just another young western pickup artist coming to eastern europe expecting girls to be everywhere and who will throw themselves at him when in fact the reality is that for the older men Ukraine is a honey pot 'because the chicks are all about the benjamins, but for the younger male it's no better than anywhere else. I can drop 200 bucks and get laid in any european city including my own.

Will see how it goes over the weekend. Any advice of venue appreciated. Looking for semi-pros.

Sounds like you are aiming for cheap sex in the range of $100 / hour or less. If so, stick to girls you can find on mamba. Ru, or other websites. I have gotten some very nice girls this way for $75 or $100 per hour. You will need to contend with the "fake picture" problem of bait and switch tactics used by the website girls and agencies, but you can simply send away those girls that don't appeal to you with taxi fare and keep trying until something good looking enough shows up. There has been a lot written on this on this thread. Haven't you read the thread? You can also try to find cheaper girls of $100 / hr or less in the girl apartments that taxi drivers or shills can show you. Or you can go to nightclubs like Shooters, Avalon, Carribean, and try to find semi-pro girls or WG's that will agree to sex for $200/2 hours or less.

Oh, and unless you are prepared to at least read my prior posts on Rio (some of which you can find referenced on the Reports of Distinction thread) , I wouldn't bother going back there. You did it all wrong there and will probably just repeat your mistakes and get the same result. So first learn what to expect at Rio (the girls strip, over the course of several songs, down to their bikini thongs. The bikini bottom comes off only in a private dance) and how others have gotten good results there, by reading this thread, and then, if you are not scared off by a price tag of $300/3hours, maybe go there earlier and try again and you might just have a ball. Some of the errors that got in your way included things like coming way too late, or trying to negotiate lower price instead of more time. The price has been fixed by the club for a long time and the girls cannot change and so it cannot be budged. The only area of negotiating that will affect price is by negotiating to get more time for the amount paid, which makes the outlay per hour lower. If you take a hottie from Rio out at 9:00 PM, then there are potentially 8 hours until closing at 5:00 AM, and then the "all night" fee of $400 will get you 8 hours, which comes out to $50 / hour net. That's a low hourly price.

But if you don't care for the idea of spending $400 for all night, or even $300/3hours ($100 / hour net rate) , then you should stick to the lower priced options mentioned above.

Happy Mongering.

LJ

[Climaxnow]

Sorry to say it but I was expecting big things and have been disappointed. I have walked the city all day with my friend in the sun, and I'm afraid that Ukranian women are a bit overrated. London is much better for variety and quality of women walking the streets. I'm sure this will [CodeWord140] you all off but there needs to be a reality check here I feel. Don't get me wrong there Ukranian girls have great figures and great hair, but the hit rate is no higher than any other western european city.

With all due respect, you are just looking at that first layer of what is obvious to tourists. The hot girls of Kiev don't live in the center and few have any true reason to walk around K street. If you want to see really hot girls walking the city center, go to Moscow. If you want to see the beauty here, go to the nightclubs on weekends.

[Bumhead111]

Hi Guys. Haven't posted on ISG for years. I am an old man in late 20s now.

I have only been here for 1 night so maybe I am jumping the gun. Thought I'd give my first impressions.

I love this city, the architecture, the sense of history, the people are warm and friendly. But.

Sorry to say it but I was expecting big things and have been disappointed. I have walked the city all day with my friend in the sun, and I'm afraid that Ukranian women are a bit overrated. London is much better for variety and quality of women walking the streets. I'm sure this will [CodeWord140] you all off but there needs to be a reality check here I feel. Don't get me wrong there Ukranian girls have great figures and great hair, but the hit rate is no higher than any other western european city.

Last night we went to buddha bar, and dlux but wasn't anything there to get my wallet out for particularly. No freebies in spite of chatting up anything with a pulse. Some nice chicks but just not enough of them. No particular interest in me or my friends. Too young? Too ugly? Who knows.

In desperation we went to the notorious Rio strip club. I asked my ukranian mate earlier (who had gone home) whether he recommended the place, expecting him to say no don't touch that expat dive but surprisingly he was quite positive about it. However.

When we got there at approx 3. 30am I couldn't believe my eyes. I thought we had gone to the wrong place. There were 2 tiny stages, and the girls were not even fully nude. Some were not even topless. WTF! Identified a couple of targets and with the help of the very friendly bar manager slash pimp managed to get them over to talk. Both wanted 300 bucks for 2 hours! Tried to bargain them down to 200 but they wouldn't even entertain it and seemed quite pissed off. I wasnt drunk or aggressive, I know how to behave I am not a yob. Are these prices normal? Didn't buy 'because they just weren't fit enough.

I'm afraid to say that I fear I am just another young western pickup artist coming to eastern europe expecting girls to be everywhere and who will throw themselves at him when in fact the reality is that for the older men Ukraine is a honey pot 'because the chicks are all about the benjamins, but for the younger male it's no better than anywhere else. I can drop 200 bucks and get laid in any european city including my own.

Will see how it goes over the weekend. Any advice of venue appreciated. Looking for semi-pros.