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08-16-15 02:47 #14828
Posts: 22Hi Jelly Donut,
Thanks for the info. I plan on trying out Rio at least once. When you say 4 turned you down, that's 4 out of how many?
Update on my plans. I will be leaving for Kiev on the 21st. Will stay overnight in Frankfurt and hit FKK Oase for a night. Will get to Kiev on the 23rd and stay till the 31st. I've made some plans with a couple of Mamba girls, one of them recommended here, and I'm contacting a few others. If none workout then off to Rio and other apartments. I'm also contacting some women on travel girls, mentioned earlier by a member here. Don't know yet if that will pan out or if most women on the site are just scammers. I'll let you know if anything comes of it. If anyone is in Kiev on the above mentioned date and wants to meet for a beer, just PM me. Beer and lunch is on me.
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08-16-15 01:03 #14827
Posts: 340Originally Posted by Kuranyi [View Original Post]
In my experience there are other well-advertised clubs, but the cost of entrance is often higher, the dances are more expensive, the drinks are more expensive, it's generally darker and the ratio of women who are just dancing is higher. This can add a lot of 'discovery' cost that I was on about earlier. Finding a willing partner takes longer, costs more.
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08-15-15 17:47 #14826
Posts: 11Ukraine is not worth it
I am in Ukraine now. I like it here quite a bit. However, I don't think this is quite the mongering destination it used to be. It is also getting unsafe. The people here are extremely racist against people who don't look like them. I blend in, but those who do not are treated badly. There have been many assaults in recent weeks against foreigners visiting Ukraine. As the political situation deteriorates, I imagine this will only get worse.
I am not a serious monger, but I did have a chance to visit with an apartment girl in Kiev. It was a nice experience, but she was only average looking and I spent about $150 for 1.5 hours. I have a couple of other friends here who have had similar experiences. Don't get me wrong, she was petite and the sex was good. The sex was better and cheaper and the girls were much hotter in Bangkok.
There are very hot girls in certain parts of Kiev, but to be honest, those girls are spoken for. There are more Range Rovers per capita in Kiev than in Chicago. The statics suggesting this place is poor are false. There is a huge black market here and there are a ton of rich guys.
I honestly think the sex scene in the FKK clubs in Germany is better for the average monger.
Also, there is absolutely zero value to being a middle class American. Unless you are willing to stay at the most expensive hotel in town, purchase a table at the best club in town, score drugs, and shell out $200/500 per night for the girl, you will not be achieving much with the 9's-10's you fantasize about and see on model sites and web porn videos.
You can get that girl much cheaper and easier in Germany at a high end brothel.
Also, the language barrier is fairly high. If you don't speak fluent Russian you will not be able to find a hot girlfriend in Kiev. You may find a decent middle-aged girl, but the quality is not that much higher than in the US or western Europe. Also, most single girls over 25 in Ukraine are high-mileage, and many are retired prostitutes. If you go to Lviv, you must speak Ukrainian (not Russian) to be able to connect with girls there. Otherwise, you are limited to about 5-10% of the population who are fluent in English. The monger scene in Lviv is nonexistent. The town is beautiful and worth a visit with your wife.
Prague is still very good. Germany has some of the best mongering in the world. Also, Bangkok is one of the best cities I've ever been to for pro and non-pro action. I've had great experiences in Colombia and have also heard great things about Rio. Argentina was better when Madahos was open.
If you are fluent in Russian and have a very large wad of cash to blow, Kiev may be your paradise. Otherwise, you are going to come here and window shop some amazing girls on the street, and then overpay for sex with an average high-mile hooker in a dirty apartment, or find a retired prostitute to date and financially support.
If you bring in $15-20 k per month, have the energy to chase girls, and are independent from work, I recommend you take Russian lessons for the next 6 months and head directly to Kiev for the full length of your visa. Otherwise your time is much better spent elsewhere.
I think the guys who linger in Kiev are living in a fantasy zone where they see extremely hot girls around town and think if they "hang around the hoop" long enough one will fall into their lap. If they study Russian or Ukrainian and become fluent, and have very good income, this would become a reality. But most of the foreign mongers I've met are not of that ilk, and they aren't getting laid by 9-10's in Ukraine.
If you are happy paying $100+ for 7-8 quality girls with petite bodies and high mileage and are coming for a short period of time, this place is fine. Just don't get your hopes up. The super-hot photos on the web are all fake.
My 2 cents.
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08-15-15 17:39 #14825
Posts: 636Golden Rhino
Originally Posted by Alaiddin [View Original Post]
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08-15-15 10:00 #14824
Posts: 113Originally Posted by JellyDonut [View Original Post]
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08-14-15 23:59 #14823
Posts: 340Originally Posted by Alaiddin [View Original Post]
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08-14-15 00:00 #14822
Posts: 709http://www.politico.eu/article/kievs...raine-culture/
Out with the mongers, in with the hipsters.
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08-13-15 14:11 #14821
Posts: 12Rio and Zolotoy Nosdorog
Hey guys,
I have heard that 3 hours of service is 200 USD for Rio. By the way does that true? Also, what's the current price of lap dance in Rio and zolotoy nosorog?
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08-13-15 09:48 #14820
Posts: 12Originally Posted by JellyDonut [View Original Post]
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08-13-15 01:00 #14819
Posts: 340Originally Posted by Alaiddin [View Original Post]
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08-12-15 23:28 #14818
Posts: 1178If you are actually happy indeed for that, then your money was spent wisely.
Upon my experience, I can't say anything about prices because I am away from Kiev for years but I understood you don't have experience enough to rate a sexual performance. If you thought by your Western mindset, then you mistook everything but you didn't realize that. First, throw all American porn movies to a litter bin because they don't show real sex and good performance. Second, you should meet a Slavic girl who teaches you the real sex. Otherwise you never understand what is Sex and Female for all your lifetime!
Originally Posted by Schauer [View Original Post]
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08-12-15 23:14 #14817
Posts: 1178I hate injustice. Therefore I need to do something when a stupid girl wants to cheat me in a stupid way. My story is good as well as a girl's story. And I never tell the truth to police, of course. Yes, it is better do not phone the police. But I made something in some troubles and I should had to do some bad more. I reacted to those stupid prostitutes, anyway. Nothing rough but something cynical. I can't describe it here because pimps and prostitutes read this forum but it is sure everybody could do something to punish bad girls. The trick is to think like them and to behave like real men. Let go a fraud with no reaction is a personal defeat.
Originally Posted by DruidFire [View Original Post]
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08-12-15 19:08 #14816
Posts: 12Club Rio
Hey guys,
I have been to Kiev for many times and nearly know everything about Kyiv but I had to ask you about Club Rio that does it still open and do you know the current USD rates for 3 hours of joy?
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08-12-15 04:54 #14815
Posts: 18Originally Posted by HarryHardman [View Original Post]
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08-09-15 22:55 #14814
Posts: 3Originally Posted by Skwiskwis [View Original Post]
Then end the night happily as we planned. Sushi and champagne cheered her up (plus a bonus, yes).
I do not live in Kiev but I am often there. Do not interfere with police, seems a good advice. Who has not been stopped by the famous street police and see your driver go to pay a bribe.
So my advice, if you go back with a girl from a club or somewhere, even if a nice walk would be romantic. Take a taxi. That was my mistake, I admit. Police is no friend to foreigners, particularly to English speakers.