Kyiv

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...Great service, maybe because she's not from Kiev.

Ah yeah, those stay overnight easily. Rio starts strippers around 20:30 give or take, do not remember exactly anymore. So, girls commuting to Kiev daily on trains and buses may stay past the usual 2-3 hours for the standard 300 USD fee. Especially newbies.

Local ones prefer to cut it short, especially if they can go back to club in hope of luring in another customer.

[Horny American]

Bakkara as you mentioned. Hotel Dnipro does. According to reviews on trip advisor hotel Rus, hotel salute and premier palace do as well. I do not know if those are 100% current or not. I know hotel Lybid used to but they got raided, shut down and after reopening the strip club was closed.

Which hotels have a strip club? I know Bakkara Hotel does. Nice hotel, girl friendly and good breakfast on the river. The area around the hotel is a dead zone though. Many girls did not even want to come that far to the hotel.

Anyways, they have a strip club downstairs, but it was so dark inside you could not even see the girls faces. It was really weird and with only two girls working with security. It just felt like a scam to me and only stayed for one minute.

[Stefan 7]

I use the same approach.

You do not have PM set up.

Is Rose still employed at Rio? I wonder if her management ever reads this Forum?

This year I don't know, I have not been to Kiev, met her 3 years ago, she was there last yr.

Great service, maybe because she's not from Kiev.

[CastOnThis]

Which hotels have a strip club? I know Bakkara Hotel does. Nice hotel, girl friendly and good breakfast on the river. The area around the hotel is a dead zone though. Many girls did not even want to come that far to the hotel.

Anyways, they have a strip club downstairs, but it was so dark inside you could not even see the girls faces. It was really weird and with only two girls working with security. It just felt like a scam to me and only stayed for one minute.

Dnipro hotel, Premier Palace hotel, Hotel Ukraine (at least use to), there are several more. But, the first two options are really expensive and the girls won't always look the part. But, it won't be as bad as the strip clubs at arena city bad. Which is really terrifying how ugly the girls at a strip club are. Something changed. You could find several gems at various strip clubs. Now? You are lucky to even find one in one strip club at most places. Maybe it was just the time (close to summer)? But I won't be visiting Kiev again due to how ugly the women have become. And the scams are just too much. Not even from the strip clubs, but from the people in general. Total scammers.

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Will be traveling to the Balkans soon and most of the forums there are so dead.

It got me thinking, what is your 2nd favorite place in Europe to meet women? I had a small bit of success in Czechia and Poland, but nothing close to the level as in Kyiv. Any feedback on Sofia or Tbilisi? Might try there for my next adventures before coming back to Kyiv for summer.

My second alternative to Kiev is Kiev itself.

I hear Tbilisi and Baku are good, but technically speaking both are in Asia, as they are to the South of Caucasian Mountain Ridge. Prague and Budapest are known destinations. Sofia is dead.

My feeling though, all of the above are worth visiting to understand that Kiev is still better.

I also tried Show around. About 100 tour guides wrote to me first from Kyiv and Tbilisi. Deleted 50 for not being my type and then the other 50 rejecting my proposal of a romantic date . So, that website is a waste of time unless you want to pay a girl 60 to walk around with you for 3 hours.

Show around is for escort without sex. The only benefit is to have a girl that knows Kiev to take as a wing woman for bar hopping and hunting. There's a search option on website. I did that. 3 show around girls were great and helpful with showing the city for something like 5-10 USD per an hour. The 4th one was good at showing great locations, that I had no idea existed. Then after a couple drinks she became too full of herself, and disrespectful in discussing foreign visitors, and even explaining how she took advantage of them. She tried going to a good restaurant with me. It was a classy place, except I thanked her, said that I need some privacy and dined alone, while ordering couple hourly girls to choose from.

That's the best way to do it. If I do not have an affordable girl willing to spend time with me dining and sightseeing, then I order a lovely show around guide, enjoy her company, and follow up with inviting a different one or two from a known agency "to sow my royal oats".

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Which hotels have a strip club?...

11 Mirrors is next to Rio. There's also lots of AirBnb around. I always stay in that neighborhood, but for different reasons.

Premier Palace has cabaret, but that place is expensive.

Scarlette is inside President Hotel, not my cup of tea.

There is a chain of Rhinoceros. Mint, Star. There used to be more flavors and locations with a different quality levels.

Arena City has 4 and abundance of apartments. My dispatchers occasionally delivered me girls from one of those clubs for 2000 UAH / hour. Do not know the name, as I never visited those clubs, and have no appeal for Arena City in general.

There are others, Red Lion, Dolls, and more. Even strip to order, perhaps for bachelor or corporate parties.

My thinking is simple. Why not order 5-10 girls from a known source? They will strip anyway before engaging in a more direct interaction. If you wish, most of them will even dance. 60-80% will be good in bed. Strippers on the other hand are vacuum cleaners. It is yet another example of Western mentality transposed onto Ukraine, just like "must-work" that Riina commented on.

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Best girl I met at RIO, Rose was awesome, bare back blowjob, CIM, met her 3 years ago, every time I visit Kiev I call her and see her, save money and time, don't have to spend time and visit Rio, pretty face 8, and body 8, she's worth it because of her looks and super service, gave me her number the 2nd time I took her home from RIO, she's right, "why pay commission to the fucking club if you don't have to", since I have seen her too many times I don't mind sharing with you guys.

I use the same approach.

You do not have PM set up.

Is Rose still employed at Rio? I wonder if her management ever reads this Forum?

[DramaFree11]

That's the old way of doing things. The scene has moved completely behind closed doors. Do as Kozerog mentioned, grind through the agencies and get an apartment. Only the bottom of the barrel escorts resort to doormen and taxi's.

Customers should never gift I phones, only sponsors. If you want to be a daddy, it's an artful process. You don't go plunk down gobs of cash.

Wow, great advice, but guys need to be prepared this is just not as cheap as other make it out to be. If you still want to go ask some of the veterans for referrals, this is the only way to be successful in Kiev. Also, you can hit the streets, but be prepared you will probably have to approach a minimum of 10-20 girls a day, depending on your standards or looks.

[DramaFree11]

Guys,

I haven't checked the site since last summer and that was due to all of the idiots that were literally chasing guys away at that time. I simply didn't need the hassle. So I was pleasantly surprised to see the thread "Stupid Shit in Kiev" just for those dummies and to also see that some of the worse transgressors were put on moderation! Cheers to admin, it was sorely needed.

I myself have been coming to Kiev 1-2 times per year on the average for over 20 years. I still like the variety available here. I can easily go to a massage parlor, use Mamba or simply pick out a stripper to bring back to my room. My best tips though are to get to know the doormen at the hotel or bars etc. They know a lot and most have a private list of girls (usually UTR) they can send to you.

I also like bringing "presents" that the local ladies either can't afford or aren't even available locally. I am talking stuff like nice perfumes etc. Even the Victoria Secret line of perfumes are desired in Kiev but are 3-4 X more expensive here. I have one mamba girl that gives me an all night for one bottle of bombshell (costs me $58 it goes for much more here).

I'm not talking about bringing them new iPhones but if you do I'm sure you could get them for multiple nights easily.

There used to be a thread of "Girl Friendly Hotels" and I don't see it anymore. Although to be honest I'the say just about all are (septic they're charging you to register them) but I also like hotels with in house strip joints. That's soooo easy.

Good to see you still have a positive attitude. Not bad advice.

As far as your old post claiming you can have high quality girls for low prices, in my opinion is the same ridiculous, especially for Newbies.

[Stefan 7]

Best girl I met at RIO, Rose was awesome, bare back blowjob, CIM, met her 3 years ago, every time I visit Kiev I call her and see her, save money and time, don't have to spend time and visit Rio, pretty face 8, and body 8, she's worth it because of her looks and super service, gave me her number the 2nd time I took her home from RIO, she's right, "why pay commission to the fucking club if you don't have to", since I have seen her too many times I don't mind sharing with you guys.

[Riina]

My best tips though are to get to know the doormen at the hotel or bars etc. They know a lot and most have a private list of girls (usually UTR) they can send to you..

That's the old way of doing things. The scene has moved completely behind closed doors. Do as Kozerog mentioned, grind through the agencies and get an apartment. Only the bottom of the barrel escorts resort to doormen and taxi's.

Customers should never gift I phones, only sponsors. If you want to be a daddy, it's an artful process. You don't go plunk down gobs of cash.

[TinyHippo]

Guys,

I haven't checked the site since last summer and that was due to all of the idiots that were literally chasing guys away at that time. I simply didn't need the hassle. So I was pleasantly surprised to see the thread "Stupid Shit in Kiev" just for those dummies and to also see that some of the worse transgressors were put on moderation! Cheers to admin, it was sorely needed.

I myself have been coming to Kiev 1-2 times per year on the average for over 20 years. I still like the variety available here. I can easily go to a massage parlor, use Mamba or simply pick out a stripper to bring back to my room. My best tips though are to get to know the doormen at the hotel or bars etc. They know a lot and most have a private list of girls (usually UTR) they can send to you.

I also like bringing "presents" that the local ladies either can't afford or aren't even available locally. I am talking stuff like nice perfumes etc. Even the Victoria Secret line of perfumes are desired in Kiev but are 3-4 X more expensive here. I have one mamba girl that gives me an all night for one bottle of bombshell (costs me $58 it goes for much more here)..

Which hotels have a strip club? I know Bakkara Hotel does. Nice hotel, girl friendly and good breakfast on the river. The area around the hotel is a dead zone though. Many girls did not even want to come that far to the hotel.

Anyways, they have a strip club downstairs, but it was so dark inside you could not even see the girls faces. It was really weird and with only two girls working with security. It just felt like a scam to me and only stayed for one minute.

[AntonySun1996]

I know March is not a typical mongering season for most of us but if anyone here in Kiev wants to meet, PM me.

I'm considering trying some clubs or street games, and I think I would need a wingman.

[TinyHippo]

Will be traveling to the Balkans soon and most of the forums there are so dead.

It got me thinking, what is your 2nd favorite place in Europe to meet women? I had a small bit of success in Czechia and Poland, but nothing close to the level as in Kyiv. Any feedback on Sofia or Tbilisi? Might try there for my next adventures before coming back to Kyiv for summer.

I also tried Show around. About 100 tour guides wrote to me first from Kyiv and Tbilisi. Deleted 50 for not being my type and then the other 50 rejecting my proposal of a romantic date €€€. So, that website is a waste of time unless you want to pay a girl 60€ to walk around with you for 3 hours.

[TinyHippo]

Completely agree, I saw so many members giving him some great advice.

Kyiv is welcoming. The amount of cars is about the only thing that bothers me other than the winter weather. I spent my first winter in Kyiv and then was smart enough to go away to a sunny place for a couple months the next winter.