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02-11-08 15:57 #3730
Posts: 46Finance matters
Originally Posted by Cruiser D
CD - I will never believe that the reporting system of SocGen didn't detect on time the financial exposure on derivatives... The damn retard seems just a perfect scape goat
In 2005 fall I participated to a study about securitization options and risk assessment for subprime mortgages. Plenty of smart economists in the upper floors of large financial institution always knowing that subprime crisys was out of the door (it's quite a strraight consequence of large project number decrease in US and lack of returns from Middle East wars). Few sharks made a lot of money with the right put options in Wall street.
Ukrainian banks are not yet the best deal for institutional investors, but some of them will be soon. Retail sector is quite healthy in both insurance and banking sectors. Corporate is still high risk.
P.S. I always listen to cabbies everywhere in the world. They give me the "real world" touch I miss when I'm just with my MBA coleagues. Best and fastest way to understand mood, opinion, troubles and needs of normal people and the way mass markets run
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02-11-08 15:50 #3729
Posts: 2626Originally Posted by Cruiser D
Not bad. Will they write about me in the Kyiv Post as living the expat dream?
To top it off, between Kiev and Moscow someone opened my luggage (despite a lock) and stole the 8GB memory card out of my video camera. Thankfully I had already downloaded the video of me fucking the Odessan teen onto my laptop and erased it from the card. Was a classic video too, even though her name is Alyona I was telling her "you like that cock, Yulia? You love that cock you fucking s1ut! Make me come you fucking b1tch! Make me come Yulia!"
She didn't seem to mind me calling her Yulia at all, or maybe she was just distracted by all the ass-slapping and hair-pulling I was doing. We even cuddled afterwards while I made her listen to Duran Duran's greatest hits. Poor girl.
Super Bowl had me all worked up... what can I say.
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02-11-08 12:42 #3728
Posts: 343It's because of all the EXTRA fees to be made....
Originally Posted by Handjob Jerksen
A UKR lady needs to send $$ (20, 000) to another country to pay for goods!
She has the $20, 000 in USD at home (thanks to some nice friends).
Now she has to go to her bank and BUY UAH, deposit it, then the bank will convert it to USD to send to said country!
Who is in charge of this? WTF! 'Lights are ON, but NOBODY is home! '
LS Guy
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02-11-08 02:15 #3727
Posts: 1381We're off to see the Wizard
#1 - Uh huh..yeah sure. I doubt he meant to rip anyone off at all. Heck, I am sure he truly believes he hasn't ripped anyone off. The truly sucessful Con never takes blame for his actions - it's always someone/thing elses fault. When he first got to Kiev you could count the numbers of clubs on one hand. He was German and probably had the latest mix CD, that and a big set of balls made him a promoter.
#2 - Huh, you and a 'number of Kiev forum readers' need to get out more often. Or at least stop making the Arena - River Palace - Fridays - Shooters loop.
#3 - The cops would probably get you long before the mafia did. Who do you think runs most of the strip clubs in Kiev? Geez, Ash how long have you been coming to Kiev? Since last Tuesday? And what do you mean by 'get a lot of mafia trouble'. What do you think they are going to do send Yuri to give you a strong talking too? They will either beat you nearly to death before you sign your interest over or/and put two in your head after you do. And the next day in the Kyiv Post you will read how a foreigner was a victim of xenophobic violence, how sad, tsk tsk bad skin heads. They play for keeps over here.
Originally Posted by Ash1001
#5 - Durak! I just ran out of M&M's after come back from one of those $10 nasty dance/take home clubs that doesn't exsist in Kiev.
Oh and HJ, I just noticed your lurker/alias posting. There are some really stupid and/or greedy people looking to make a quick buck buying up the Ukrainian banks. Anyone think there is any reason why the people who stole the banks, err, I mean took over are more then willing to sell them? Yeah, you Euro's are way ahead of us on finance scams. Remember 15 years ago someone sent the Latin American/Spanish banking industry into a tailspin when he dropped a few hundred mil of BoB money? Makes it look like chump change compare to SocGen.
Bottom line is some extremely greedy people are looking to make a quick buck however they can and they don't care how many people they fuck over. If you think the retard at the center of the SocGen thing was going to spend the rest of his life at Devils Island you think other's would be quick to follow? How about the scum running the US mortgage companies giving out subprime notes to people on the margin, knowing that they were only going to hold the note as long as it took them to sell it to 'real' bank or some real piece of shit running a Wall Street scam making his money on the amount of transactions he did per day - wether it was going up or down. If these fuckers spent 30-40 years in a 2.5mX2.5m cell you think others would be eager to follow? That's the easy out, personal I think guys like Ken Lay should simply get two in the head.
How does a NYC cabby know all this, I read the WSJ that people leave in my cab. What's your excuse for being brain dead? Really, if people just took the time to get their head out of their ass the world might be a slightly less fucked up place.
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02-10-08 21:05 #3726
Posts: 1381Hogan!
T, I have no first hand information of the situation but 2+2 generally equals 4, not 3.
If he's on the up and up why is he down in Odessa saying he'll come back to Kiev when he raises the money for a lawyer.
The funny thing about people who live on the margin is that sucessful ones are very good at conning people. They will lift your wallet out of your pocket open it, take the money out all before your eyes, all the while convincing you that is not what is taking place.
People in the Club/Bar business generally aren't the most honest people in the world. I'm sure he was a fantastic host, that was his job.
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02-10-08 18:06 #3725
Posts: 82Originally Posted by Cruiser D
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02-10-08 14:34 #3724
Posts: 411Starting a lap dancing club
Originally Posted by Cruiser D
Which makes me wonder what startup costs would be in a town like Kiev. A number of Kiev forum readers have pointed out that K lacks a really good lap dancing club, in the style of 911 or Safari in Moscow, with $10 for a nasty dance and full take home.
Costs will now of course be a multiple of what Erik had to pay back when he started.
Anyone interested?
Will we get a lot of 'mafia trouble'?
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02-10-08 12:01 #3723
Posts: 2Originally Posted by Cruiser D
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02-10-08 11:07 #3722
Posts: 34Visa's for Girls
I have a friend who has been trying to get a Visa to England.
She passed UK english exam, but is still without a visa. She hired someone and her sponsor paid $2500 for a six month visa and now they are telling her that for $1600 they may get her a one week visa.
I am interested to see what happens.
I have been told that young girls have a very hard time getting to the US or England without good proof they have motovation to return to Ukraine, such as property in their name, a good paying job, etc.
England and America see "sponsorship" as prostitution. This 18 year old girl has a visa with stamps from Cypress, Egypt, Turkey and Czech. I think that the Immigration official has a pretty good idea that she does not have the means to be paying for these trips on her own.
Actually I don't think that these girls will do much better in England than they do in Ukraine without education. BJWOC can only take you so far for so long. Sure they may make more, but then it is not cheap in England either.
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02-09-08 22:08 #3721
Posts: 158River Palace
First post, so here goes.
Having tried just about everything in Dubai, Poland, Romania, Estonia, Hungary etc I believe Kiev is the best. Wall to wall fit babes. RP best best if you are a bit lazy like me. I have always found loads of choice and it's almost too easy. Plus after a few minutes chat and a drink, you can usually get a feel for whether they will give you a good time or just go through the motions. Incidentally, I am baffled why so many members bang on about a few $ either way. Who cares! In my experience treat them well and they do too. After all pissing her off about the price does not get things off to a good start? Plus:
I have had loads of great freebies afterwards treating them right first time!
Was in Kiev for 3rd time from 12 January for a couple of nights. On the Sunday, met a real petite stunner 11/10 in my book. 5 foot nothing and about 47kg with the most amazing fake tits I have seen in my life. Very pretty! Great tan, legs and perfect peachy ass too. Had a great couple of hours back at Premier Palace which she seemed to enjoy too and was very wet after some memorable DATY. $300 well spent I would say! I liked her which helps.
Went for round 2 at RP on the Monday and she asked if her friend could join us, who was just as stunning. Now the bad news. After 20 minutes, I realised some barstard had spiked my drink and felt very rough and so had little choice but to leave in a hurry, as quite woozy. (This also happened to me a couple of years ago in Budapest, so I knew straight away. Not nice!)
I usually always get the girls phone number if possible which has resulted in many freebies. However, in my rush to 'get some air' after the spiked drink, I clean forgot and next morning it was too late, as my flight home was early.
I would really like to meet 'Angela' again soon and wonder if any members recognise her? Trust me she is very memorable! She told me she is 24. She has long (ish) mid blonde (ish) fine straight hair. Her friend had black hair. Both always sit next to the RP dance floor at the main bar end. English ok. I got the feeling Angela was not a regular at RP but just needed some money?
ANYONE KNOW HOW I CAN FIND OR CONTACT ANGELA? (Have any other members met or know her?)
Read the reports regularly as they are always interesting & informative.
Fox7717
PS. First did Dubai c5 years ago= good. Now= crap! Same old routine. (CIS )
After 60 seconds in bed, CBJ for 1 minute, "get on' cow girl, hope you offload in c3 minutes and then hope you are tired and try to leave ASAP ready to go for another punter. (20 minutes overall.) Try to deviate and get what YOU WANT and paid for, they get pissy! Have had some glorious exceptions but why bother now when Kiev so good. (Although Kiev has a limited time left!)
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02-09-08 15:42 #3720
Posts: 1381mein gott!
Ash, I doubt he has 300k in hand. I'm sure most of that went to keep his house of cards up. I liked 111 but most of his other ventures were 2nd rate at best. A Kiev that has become more sophisticated just squeezed him out. I don’t think he had any real promoting background – I think he was a software engineer. He was just another expat in Kiev with a story who made it big for a while.
Q, I haven't done it personally. I have no interest in taking a girl to England. It's just second hand information I was told by the girls. I doubt any of them lied to me. One girl has a sponsor, another has a good job that travels a lot and the other..?
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02-09-08 12:45 #3719
Posts: 334Originally Posted by Cruiser D
I am the fool on that one, things must have changed for the better.
Back three years ago it was near impossible without what I first listed!
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02-09-08 12:23 #3718
Posts: 411Originally Posted by Cruiser D
Bloody hell.
Still, 300K should buy him some fun in Odessa. Say ~50K to bribe the police, $250 left over. Not bad.
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02-09-08 10:20 #3717
Posts: 343I hope you are not calling me
Originally Posted by Cruiser D
LS Guy
PS - 8 to 10 liters of pivko adds up each day!
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02-08-08 19:39 #3716
Posts: 387Sorry I meant constant devaluation of dollar towards euro.You took 5.4 grivnia for 1 dollar 4 years ago and 5.7 grivnias for 1 euro.So dollar and euro was almost the same in peoples' mind.Now for 1 euro you get 7.2 grivnias(it was 6.8 grivnias in July) but I noticed that many people in province cannot tell the difference in value between dollar and euro eg a pro asking for 50 euro can take 50$ as well or 300 grivnia.