Kyiv

[LilJoey]

Hi there, I'm planning a trip to Kiev in October. I've reserved my apartment for a week and I'm planning to go at night to Rio, D-Lux and Buddha bar to meet gorgeous girls.

I'm looking for 8s and up. What are the other bars that I should add to my list? Paradise? Is Mandarin opened? Dante?

During the days, I would like to invite girls at my apartement or to check out incalls. After reading the reviews, I looked at GIA, Mambu and top modals websites. I prefer the girls looks on top modals but it is difficult to know if they are real pictures or not. Here are some examples:

http://www.top-modals.com/?id=4099

http://www.top-modals.com/?id=4637

http://www.top-modals.com/?id=4590

Any good experience with top modals? Any girl recommendation on mambu? Please PM me if you can help me.

Thanks

Be aware that for two of the girls you selected as examples, you will note that in the upper left hand section of their profile, it lists their "girlfriends". This is a tell-tale sign of an agency with many girls. This fact lessens the possibility that the claim of "speaks english" and "real photo" are true.

That being said, my experience with girls from top-modals. Com has been good. In the end of 2009, I called one girl from that website and she was very good, a cute blonde. Her pics were true (although photoshopped). She had a sweet personality. And we had fun. She is very skinny and slender but a nice ass, and not a model face, so I give her a 7 maybe. But I enjoyed her, liked her, and stayed friends with her since then, trying to see her each time I visit Kiev. During 2010 visits she has brought with her two other girls who are also on the top-modals website with their true pics, also girls on a 7 level, attractive and sexy, but not the most model pretty girls. So I know for a fact that three of the girls on top-modals. Com did use their actual pics. They were not obviously connected with any agency. All three of them also advertise on mamba. Ru. As you review the pics, you will begin to recognize the pics of the girls who appear on both websites. My experience with three of the girls on top-modals. Com website, is by no means any guarantee that all other girls who write "real photo" on their profile are telling the truth, especially those girls connected with an agency with other "girlfriends" listed in top left corner of profile, or the same telephone number (which you can see if you sort by phone number). However, it does mean that there is a good possibility that there are other girls who are using true pics. Therefore, in my opinion, it is worth your time to try and see who shows up. The worst that can happen if an ugly girl shows up, is that you will send her away and have wasted a little time. But this is a good activity for part of your daytime in Kiev, or you can try going to incall apartments (but think about your security and take some precautions if your going to go to some unknown location in a foreign city) , or you can try to pick up girls on streets and malls. But calling for girls from mamba. Ru or top-modals. Com or a number of other internet websites, is certainly worth it for a daytime activity. You may find an 8 that way too. At night however, go to the clubs, either Rio, or the nightclubs. If mandarin has opened, definitely try it and report.

I will be in Kiev for week of October 10. 16 and October 23. 25.

I will be doing all the same as I advised you, although this time I have been pursuing a few leads on travelgirls. Com and don't know how it will turn out, and whether it will just be regular dates, or if the girls are into p4p. None of the girls has raised the issue of p4p so far, so I am playing it as normal dates, and I will try to get into their pants as freebies. The interesting thing is that most of these girls on travelgirls are unabashed about asking you to bring presents for them. I wonder what they have in mind in exchange for gifts. We'll see.

LJ

[Muddy7]

Hi.

I did read a few pages through this forum a couple of weeks ago without finding the information and I'll be soon flying to Kiev.

Only staying 3 days so I'd rather stay in a 5 star hotel, but will there be any issue having girls coming up to my room? If so, what are the alternatives, in high end and SAFE apartments?

Thanks!

Forget hotels, apartments are definitely better.

Just make sure it has water heater so you have warm water for shower AND internet

[GreyGoose69]

Hi there, I'm planning a trip to Kiev in October. I've reserved my apartment for a week and I'm planning to go at night to Rio, D-Lux and Buddha bar to meet gorgeous girls.

I'm looking for 8s and up. What are the other bars that I should add to my list? Paradise? Is Mandarin opened? Dante?

During the days, I would like to invite girls at my apartement or to check out incalls. After reading the reviews, I looked at GIA, Mambu and top modals websites. I prefer the girls looks on top modals but it is difficult to know if they are real pictures or not. Here are some examples:

http://www.top-modals.com/?id=4099

http://www.top-modals.com/?id=4637

http://www.top-modals.com/?id=4590

Any good experience with top modals? Any girl recommendation on mambu? Please PM me if you can help me.

Thanks

[Hm Hw]

What is tipping practice (if any) for 1. Erotic massages with happy ending and 2. Full service from either Rio or Mamba?

Thanks in advance

[Climaxnow]

Can someone please give a brief list of the apartment agencies in Kiev. I know a few have been mentioned on this forum such as kievapts. Com, kievapartment. Com, and luxuary-Kiev-apartment. Com. It would be great if someone can list and rate the agencies as to their credibility and $ for $ value. It would mean a lot more if it came from a senior member that is well traveled in Kiev.

Also, I am thinking of staying at the new Ibis for a few days until I find a place. Anything wrong with that?

[Luis1]

Thanks for the link Jipepe!

Yet I don't feel much confortable in a building not properly staffed with security plus I like the service in hotels. What are the issues to be expected when trying to have girls come to one's hotel room in Kiev, for instance in the Intercontinental?

[Jipepe 74]

Hi.

I did read a few pages through this forum a couple of weeks ago without finding the information and I'll be soon flying to Kiev.

Only staying 3 days so I'd rather stay in a 5 star hotel, but will there be any issue having girls coming up to my room? If so, what are the alternatives, in high end and SAFE apartments?

Thanks!

Hello!

I always use this agency: http://luxury-kiev-apartment.com/fr/

I never have problem with it. For short or long terme.

[Luis1]

Hi.

I did read a few pages through this forum a couple of weeks ago without finding the information and I'll be soon flying to Kiev.

Only staying 3 days so I'd rather stay in a 5 star hotel, but will there be any issue having girls coming up to my room? If so, what are the alternatives, in high end and SAFE apartments?

Thanks!

[LilJoey]

Does anyone have experience with sauna's in Kiev.

I have found a link:

http://bantu.kiev.ua/

But it is all in Russian or Ukrain.

Is this sauna only interesting if you are in a group and rent the hole place or can you visit it alone?

What kind of services are they delivering? At what prices?

It seems like they have several saunas at different places in the city.

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Plantrav, sounds like you are challenged by internet language barrier issues in your research. There may be others out there with the same issues. Not everyone is computer savvy. So I will give the method that makes language no longer an issue. Perhaps it will help thos e who need it. I beg the patience of those who know this stuff already.

Plantrav, simply download and install the Google Toolbar into your Internet Explorer browser and download / install Google Translate as well. When properly set up, this will result in automatic instant translation of any webpage in any language to English or your native tongue. (Note: if you haven't already, get latest version of IE installed first. It's free. Make sure your Windows is updated with latest service packs. I believe you need at least service pack 3 installed into Windows in order for the latest version of Internet Explorer 8 to work properly).

Using the above, I opened the link to the sauna webpage that you listed, and all was translated for me automatically into English. Even the webpage's internal links along the left hand side were translated in a pop-up that appeared as I passed the mouse pointer over each option. I found particularly interesting the description of the body slide massages available. But I didn't spot pictures of the girls who do it.

Using this language translation application provided by Google, one can translate, understand and communicate every message on Mamba. Ru as well, an important goal of mongers visiting Kiev. If something in a girl's mamba profile did not translate automatically, one can also right-click on the text and a "translate" option usually appears in a drop-down list. In this way can see easily what each devushka is writing in her precious profile. (Note: Most of these girls write stuff that makes them sound like lunatics, although maybe their poetic intent is all lost in the translation. I don't know. But who cares about what's in their head, as long as they look hot and are good at sex.) To send a message in Russian, I usually open an additional browser tab and click on the word "Google" on the Google Toolbar which brings me straight to Google main page. Then at the top. Left of the page you will see links, one of which will say "More". Clicking on "More" will cause a drop-down list to appear, one of whose options is "Translate". Clicking on that link will open the Translator, within which you can select the language of translation and switch back and forth between direction of translation using the directional arrows there. You can thus type your message in English, and watch it get automatically translated into Russian, then you can copy / paste the Russian language message back into the translator and switch the direction to double check what the Russian message you created actually means, just in case you need to correct it because there are errors in syntax and usage so that the message does not properly convey your intent. Then when you are satisfied the message captures what you want to say to the girl of your dreams on Mamba. Ru or any website, you simply copy / paste your Russian language message into the message box for that girl on Mamba and "send" it.

I hope this is helpful to you, and any others who may not be so computer savvy. I didn't know this stuff in the beginning, and only really learned about it because of my mongering investigations on the internet.

LJ

[Plantrav]

Does anyone have experience with sauna's in Kiev.

I have found a link: http://bantu.kiev.ua/

But it is all in Russian or Ukrain.

Is this sauna only interesting if you are in a group and rent the hole place or can you visit it alone?

What kind of services are they delivering? At what prices?

It seems like they have several saunas at different places in the city.

[DoctorOral]

Walked krechatik up and down two times (so passed all the spots 4 times.)

The third time, a group of 3 girls giggled looking at me, the fourth time I brought them a round of beer (since they were having bottled beer) and asked them to join me at my place.

Two solid 7 make a 14, their friend was chubby, so a 4, makes it a solid 18. And 100$

[Nauskas]

I talked with a few girls on Mamba and massage places and they all say they can't visit me a President Hotel.

Anyone knows why? Doorman wants his share or what's wrong?

President charges 200 for outside entry, as they have their own girls here from about 2000-0400.

What you want to do is being them in before it dark out.

[LilJoey]

When I went to Rio in July, I met up with another member of this site who was a veteran of Rio and was instructed by him to just approach the dancers while they were dancing. My take was, well, if he says so. So that's what I did, and it worked. I believe there is nothing wrong with it. I think it's actually a nice gesture just to approach a girl with a smile and ask her name or ask her to come to talk to you after her dancing. In any case I learned all the nuts and bolts of Rio from this man, to whom I'm very grateful. I was also mesmerized by how smooth this man was with girls at Rio. Smilie.

You're probably right, Sorbonne, that there is nothing wrong with getting up and approaching a dancer on stage to talk to her empty-handed and without any tip. I actually do just that many times. But I feel compelled to tip sometimes because I feel there is an expectation on the part of dancers for this if they give you their attentions. Maybe it's all in my head that the girls want and expect something from a guy who wants them to pay attention to him or talk to him. I'm just analogizing from what I think a girl dancing in NY would be thinking of a guy who came up to the stage and wanted to talk to her and didn't put a dollar into her G-string. I just believe that at some point the girls would not appreciate that guy. But perhaps if it is only an occasional thing the way you were doing it, it is less likely to lead to a negative perception of you. However, I get up to get the name of every girl I fancy because I am making a list for future reference. That's what I meant by getting up "incessantly". So just to stay on good terms with them all, I am a "sport" for a $6 tip, and everyone's happy. It's just my way of keeping good relations so I can do my thing there unimpeded. Maybe ifone is not getting up to speak with so many of the dancers, it wouldn't be an issue.

LJ

[Sorbonne]

One caveat to approaching a girl as she dances. It is possible to do so without tipping, but it probably is a little tacky, so I wouldn't keep popping up to speak to dancers incessantly without tipping out of concern that it might be regarded as too impetuous and pushy by either the girls or management. I don't see any others doing it really. LJ

When I went to Rio in July, I met up with another member of this site who was a veteran of Rio and was instructed by him to just approach the dancers while they were dancing. My take was, well, if he says so. So that's what I did, and it worked. I believe there is nothing wrong with it. I think it's actually a nice gesture just to approach a girl with a smile and ask her name or ask her to come to talk to you after her dancing. In any case I learned all the nuts and bolts of Rio from this man, to whom I'm very grateful. I was also mesmerized by how smooth this man was with girls at Rio. Smilie.

[Muddy7]

Everything was within 10-15 minutes walk and so I got a lot of exercise walking, though at night I would take a cab back to my apartment and ended up paying 100 grvn each time!

I have traveled to Kiev 4-5 times, I went to River Palace every visit, when I wanted to go there I would get a cab near Kreschatic, I would tell him River Palace 25 or 30 grivna and I would show him the money, no problem. But returning to my flat from River Palace was another story, almost everytime they charged me 100 grivna, its not about the money it just didn't feel good about getting ripped off but you have no choice