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02-15-22 09:58 #22073
Posts: 187Warning about fake escorts
I would like to warn you about the fake escorts that you can find on Tinder, Mamba. Ru, Ukrainian dating websites.
These women get dressed like pros, they wear fit dress, a lot of make-up, high heels. However, they want you to pay without giving anything in exchange. Therefore, these women say they want a sugar daddy / sugar baby relationship. They confidently suggest a relationship in which you have no benefits. They just want to send them gifts. They want you to invite them to the restaurant so that they don't have to pay for food. They want you to buy them drinks or clothes. They have different techniques but all these scammers have something in common, they all operate from dating websites, dating agencies, and also camgirl websites. For several years, I have read reports of guys who say they found a pro thanks to tinder or mamba. I tried myself these two dating websites. It was a disaster. I have found psychos, scammers. I think these dating apps are overrated. I think they are men traps.
So, we are on a forum, and we talk about pros, you may not understand my point. Some Ukrainian women on Tinder claim to accept money in exchange for sex. You will be able to find out that there are scammers very quickly. They usually tell you a story implying that you must give money first. For instance, she will tell you she wants to meet you first. She wants to milk you like a cash cow. Then, Once you give the money these women vanish and you will never see them again.
Real Ukrainian pros don't chit chat. They don't select their customers. If you visit a local website with escort ads like ukrgo (in Ukrainian), you will find the real pros. You must use these websites in Ukrainian, there is no other option. On Ukrgo, the pictures can be fake but at least, these women offer a real service. A second option would the Kiev nightclub after the covid19 crisis. Those two options are the most reliable ways to find a pro in Ukraine.
I interacted with such a woman, she cheated me out of 50 euros. I told her that she can't get anything for free in this world. I told her that if she wants money from me, she must do something in return. I explained her what I wanted exactly. It worked. However, I still don't think that tinder and mamba are a good place to find semi pros. There are too many women who don't want to give anything in return.
Some local Ukrainian men, will tell you that women from villages or Donetsk, or Lviv or Kharkiv are better. Don't believe what they tell you. There are scammers everywhere.
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02-14-22 21:58 #22072
Posts: 1307Originally Posted by Jojosun [View Original Post]
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02-14-22 21:36 #22071
Posts: 823Originally Posted by Desin [View Original Post]
By the way, you didn't offer any contradicting examples about "learning about history", in regards that the prices would go up if the demand goes down. I'm willing to read such examples with interest, if you have them.
I am not here to prove anything. I am posting to the pleasure of those who wants to read. Otherwise, please do ignore.
Finding a girl I really want to meet just for sex is a time consuming process, and even if the supply is good (like in the case of 250-300 dollar girls, where one can just pick whomever he wants) it's a rather slim chance to find a keeper. A girl whom I prefer and with whom sex is always good. I've met three of these. That's like one out of ten.
Personally, I have yet to make a decision of whether to travel to Kiev if this situation is calmed down in the next month. If all is normalized, then Kiev goes up in terms of appeal. Supply and demand might be on a good spot.
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02-14-22 21:25 #22070
Posts: 823Originally Posted by Kozerog [View Original Post]
Selection in June of 2014 in Kiev has been amazing. Back then my new acquaintance took a 3 hours commuter train to have the first date with me. There was no agreement on price. She showed up to escort me to Theater.
After the show we simply walked over to my place and OMG was she gorgeous! My local friend called around 11 pm, in the middle of me taking her. He invited to go for a dinner. I responded with "I'm about to finish, will call you back soon" She giggled.
I still remember her expensive lingerie and impeccable curves. 20 years old. When she was leaving, I asked how much, she exclaimed "2000!" and blushed. I already had exactly 2000 UAH in the back pocket of my jeans, and handed it over. She expressed regrets about the request, tried to refuse taking it, I gave her another long DFK, and calmed down, she left with 2000.
We are still in touch. She is the best. 2000 UAH in 2014 was about 170 USD. For 6 hours with educated young beauty.
Yes, selection was great. Out of 6 girls that I had in 36 hours - 3 were gorgeous, and all 6 were "eager to please". I felt very safe in Kiev during that visit.
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02-14-22 21:15 #22069
Posts: 558Optimum time or not, you guys in Kyiv can at least f* like there is no tomorrow. Enjoy!
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02-14-22 20:59 #22068
Posts: 242Originally Posted by RacShack [View Original Post]
I agree with Photoslider that SOME Ukrainians use that backward economic thinking, such that the fewer customers, the higher the price, to make up for lost business. But they are not all like that. More common is to simply hold the price steady. In which case, crisis doesn't mean lower prices, but it might mean much better selection and eagerness to please.
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02-14-22 19:32 #22067
Posts: 30Originally Posted by Jojosun [View Original Post]
Be safe.
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02-14-22 18:59 #22066
Posts: 71Originally Posted by RacShack [View Original Post]
Although it sounds crude my statements are in line with what President Zelensky has been saying all this while- if you cause large scale economic damage without firing a single bullet that's lot of harm done already!
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02-14-22 11:48 #22065
Posts: 672Optimum time?
Originally Posted by CallSignRomeo [View Original Post]
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02-14-22 11:27 #22064
Posts: 129Originally Posted by PhotoSlider [View Original Post]
By the way, you didn't offer any contradicting examples about "learning about history", in regards that the prices would go up if the demand goes down. I'm willing to read such examples with interest, if you have them.
Before last summer's trip I actually had contacted girls through Mamba that were willing to come for that 120 dollar price, but the more they sent me their pictures and the more I communicated with them (and I kept this to the minimum) the less I wanted to meet them. I don't care for certain kind of individuals, of which one can usually recognize from their style.
Even as my purpose is not to buy girls attention with money, to use it as a tool to get her interest directed towards me, I've become more and more picky in regards to the character of the girl: I've noted that I don't enjoy sex to the fullest if the personality of the girl is such that I find it even a bit of repulsive. Finding a girl I really want to meet just for sex is a time consuming process, and even if the supply is good (like in the case of 250-300 dollar girls, where one can just pick whomever he wants) it's a rather slim chance to find a keeper. A girl whom I prefer and with whom sex is always good. I've met three of these. That's like one out of ten.
Personally, I have yet to make a decision of whether to travel to Kiev if this situation is calmed down in the next month. If all is normalized, then Kiev goes up in terms of appeal. Supply and demand might be on a good spot.
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02-13-22 22:50 #22063
Posts: 2842No Rush to Leave Ukraine.
Originally Posted by Nero6 [View Original Post]
https://www.timesofisrael.com/with-e...rush-to-leave/
'sources in the aviation industry confirmed to the Kan public broadcaster that there are hardly any Israelis leaving Ukraine, with low occupancy on each flight out to Israel.'
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02-13-22 17:46 #22062
Posts: 30Situation Ukraine
KLM and Lufthansa have now stop flying in and out of Ukraine. I hope you all got out in time.
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02-13-22 08:17 #22061
Posts: 823Originally Posted by Desin [View Original Post]
Everybody has his own preferences. Some work better than others. Some habits are difficult to abandon.
Empirical practice results seem like a good criteria of success.
Best of luck in your future endeavors, and please post your reports. With or without the graphic description of positions. I personally like missionary, because I can go for DFK. Doggie is equally attractive, just the thought of firmly holding in my hands one of those gorgeous behinds leaves me speechless for a moment. But then there are young ballerinas and gymnast ladies, that opened up a totally different universe, that Kama Sutra didn't help me to even imagine.
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02-12-22 20:14 #22060
Posts: 2842What a Joke
Originally Posted by Nero6 [View Original Post]
What a Fucking joke from a bunch of crooks and thieves where its citizens only weeks ago were camped on the Belarus border trying to get into Poland after paying thousands of $" to flee Iraq.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0qzW39ZVqCw
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02-12-22 19:37 #22059
Posts: 71Originally Posted by Misterxxx [View Original Post]