Kyiv

[CallSign Papa]

I am planning a trip to Kiev next month, middle of February. Can you please tell me what is the weather like? Thanks.

Cheers.

To summarise in one word. COLD!

During the day it'll be around 0C if you're lucky, or -5C if you're not (but it'll feel much colder, gotta love that windchill). At night it'll get down to. 15C. Lots of slushy snow on the ground to so take the appropriate footwear.

[Tomux 22]

I am planning a trip to Kiev next month, middle of February. Can you please tell me what is the weather like? Thanks.

Cheers.

I did look online weather forecast and February month in Kiev dosent look to plesent weather wise. I woud not say its bad time to go, it rather depends what you whant from your trip. I will book this week long weekend trip 16-20 February.

Bad weather don't bother me and I like it when it is off season.

[Jojosun]

Yes, yes. Moreover I am reading in all the forum-wide, even in Germany thread, men call a pussy condomed fuck "a fuck" and a half penis blowjob with spit "a blowjob". OMG! I am reading AO party where AO is a tricky word, a lot of gangbangs are with women whom we could dream in a nightmare, I am reading men who excite with a pussy lick or a fake moan, yes, yes. Western pimps try to convince customers to spend ten times money for transport, accommodation and (no-) sex, yes, yes. .

Yes, Yes, words of wisdom straight from The Colon.

And, yes, yes, it ain't half as good, as it was in Up Pompii.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIpkNVL1JNQ

[AColonizer]

Yes, yes. Moreover I am reading in all the forum-wide, even in Germany thread, men call a pussy condomed fuck "a fuck" and a half penis blowjob with spit "a blowjob". OMG! I am reading AO party where AO is a tricky word, a lot of gangbangs are with women whom we could dream in a nightmare, I am reading men who excite with a pussy lick or a fake moan, yes, yes. Western pimps try to convince customers to spend ten times money for transport, accommodation and (no-) sex, yes, yes. .

a load of bollocks.

[Harry Hirsch]

Bad weather, maybe snowing, raining COLD.

Not a good time to go to Kiev.

If you have a flat with yacuzzi, Sauna, then it is OK.

[Ezyngo]

I am planning a trip to Kiev next month, middle of February. Can you please tell me what is the weather like? Thanks.

Cheers.

[Jojosun]

cim = cum into mouth.

Handjob with cim (like in 90% porn movies)

blowjob with cim.

Half penis blowjob with cim.

Deep throat blowjob with cim.

Half penis blowjob with cim and spit.

Half penis blowjob with cim and swallow.

Deep throat blowjob with cim and spit.

Deep throat blowjob with cim and swallow.

Is it enough?

a load of bollocks.

[AColonizer]

CIM = cum into mouth.

Handjob with CIM (like in 90% porn movies)

Blowjob with CIM.

Half penis blowjob with CIM.

Deep throat blowjob with CIM.

Half penis blowjob with CIM and spit.

Half penis blowjob with CIM and swallow.

Deep throat blowjob with CIM and spit.

Deep throat blowjob with CIM and swallow.

Is it enough?

What details could possibly say it better?

[LifeSavour]

Beh, CIM could have several meanings, most people are wrong with that. What you said is obvious, but we need a detailed description. Thanxxx.

What details could possibly say it better?

[AColonizer]

Beh, CIM could have several meanings, most people are wrong with that. What you said is obvious, but we need a detailed description. Thanxxx.

As any veteran knows (1st venture in UKR. 2000) the word finish is used by the ladies to mean "cum", orgasm, ejaculate."Did you finish?" "F I N I S H"

Therefore I finished, CIM with all of them!

The last 26 year old that visited for 600 uah, on the phone she said ALL of my demands could be meet. But only after seeing me!

I always make them agree to: " Ya lublu 69, bez preservative. Classic sex in condom " If they say HET, we do not meet! I guess she liked what she saw

As she was kissing and hugging me at the door. I've also got some other key words & phrases that I use to help make them want me as much as I want them!

LS "the Master Negotiator" Guy!

Ps. I think many guys fail more often with these ladies because of "desperation" OR "arrogance". These babes can smell both. I do well because I tell them I am the nicest man they will ever meet and I also let them know that I am the only ONE and that if the 1st taxi wants too much $$, there are 20 more following right behind. I am never desparate!

[LifeSavour]

Hi LifeSavour,

What do you mean with CIM exactly?

As any veteran knows (1st venture in UKR. 2000) the word finish is used by the ladies to mean "cum", orgasm, ejaculate."Did you finish?" "F I N I S H"

Therefore I finished, CIM with all of them!

The last 26 year old that visited for 600 uah, on the phone she said ALL of my demands could be meet. But only after seeing me!

I always make them agree to: " Ya lublu 69, bez preservative. Classic sex in condom " If they say HET, we do not meet! I guess she liked what she saw

As she was kissing and hugging me at the door. I've also got some other key words & phrases that I use to help make them want me as much as I want them!

LS "the Master Negotiator" Guy!

Ps. I think many guys fail more often with these ladies because of "desperation" OR "arrogance". These babes can smell both. I do well because I tell them I am the nicest man they will ever meet and I also let them know that I am the only ONE and that if the 1st taxi wants too much $$, there are 20 more following right behind. I am never desparate!

[AColonizer]

Hi LifeSavour,

What do you mean with CIM exactly?

After living in Kyiv from 2003 until late 2009 where I had the extreme luxury of TIME (to work the FreeB's) last week I arrived back and had 8 days to ply my OLD game. And I say old as I am mid 50's & not little & not hott & not a clubber. And I am happy to report I did all right. I was using mamba & love. Mail. Ru. I had many to meet, too many!

One plus I have is that I do not need the young one, in fact it is the personality I long for! I found that right off in a MILF. 33. From another city. Working here and has left her child at home with granny! Common! She was wild. In fact she fawked me to ALMOST death! I tried to give money-NO! I tried to buy dinners, drinks, gifts. NO! She just wanted to come (lived 10 minutes from my Krasn'o flat) & romp!

In between I meet 4 other gals. All mamba. All for some $$ 500 to 800 uah. 1 I even gave 200 taxi $$ too! She was just 18. So sweet, could only come between 11:00 & 15:00. She worked so hard, I had to treat her! Problem with her was that I asked about mama & after seeing the foto. I WANT MAMA! Xa xa.

My points in this rant: BE HONEST, BE A GOOD GUY, MAKE THEM LAUGH, & TREAT THEM WITH RESPECT. Each girl sucked with no condom and let me finish CIM! (I am selling LESSONS in how to get this, PM me)!

Now my REAL girl from Sevastopol is here and sleeping while I write this. I am in my 3rd apartment. Trying to hide! We fly at 7:00 utra toooooooo.

PS. I had my notebook web cam recording ALL action. I had my camera in another location. I will be making movies. Maybe even 2 D! Xa.

PPS. Fotos to come!

[LifeSavour]

After living in Kyiv from 2003 until late 2009 where I had the extreme luxury of TIME (to work the FreeB's) last week I arrived back and had 8 days to ply my OLD game. And I say old as I am mid 50's & not little & not hott & not a clubber. And I am happy to report I did all right. I was using mamba & love. Mail. Ru. I had many to meet, too many!

One plus I have is that I do not need the young one, in fact it is the personality I long for! I found that right off in a MILF. 33. From another city. Working here and has left her child at home with granny! Common! She was wild. In fact she fawked me to ALMOST death! I tried to give money-NO! I tried to buy dinners, drinks, gifts. NO! She just wanted to come (lived 10 minutes from my Krasn'o flat) & romp!

In between I meet 4 other gals. All mamba. All for some $$ 500 to 800 uah. 1 I even gave 200 taxi $$ too! She was just 18. So sweet, could only come between 11:00 & 15:00. She worked so hard, I had to treat her! Problem with her was that I asked about mama & after seeing the foto. I WANT MAMA! Xa xa.

My points in this rant: BE HONEST, BE A GOOD GUY, MAKE THEM LAUGH, & TREAT THEM WITH RESPECT. Each girl sucked with no condom and let me finish CIM! (I am selling LESSONS in how to get this, PM me)!

Now my REAL girl from Sevastopol is here and sleeping while I write this. I am in my 3rd apartment. Trying to hide! We fly at 7:00 utra toooooooo.

PS. I had my notebook web cam recording ALL action. I had my camera in another location. I will be making movies. Maybe even 2 D! Xa.

PPS. Fotos to come!

[LilJoey]

I didn't find much info about the quality and extent of private dances at Rio here. It is always beneficial to feel chemistry out in a private dance before a take out, but I am unsure of the extent one can get to in Rio dances. What is a typical dance like? What is off limits and what is considered standard? Especially interested in knowing about DFK.

Second question, is there any issue bringing girls to the Intercontinental?

The subject of the quality and extent of private dances at Rio has been the subjuct of a fair number of posts in previous months this year, so the reason you "didn't find" is because you didn't look sufficiently by actually reading the thread going back an appropriate number of months. But I recognize that actually reading the thread is a tedious task to those who prefer the easy way out of just posting a previously asked question again here.

But I will tell you that private dances at Rio are hotter than anything I've ever experienced at strip clubs in major cities in the West (at least with many girls at Rio). Kising of nipples, direct fingering of pussy, kissing, fondling of cock through the material of your pants, all the goodies, have happened at Rio in the privacy of the private dance room, but not with every customer and not with every girl. That is why the private dance is an important tool to be used to find a girl for take out that has some chemistry with you. If she shuts you down and won't allow you to touch her at all or kiss anything, and there are such ice queens working there, then it's a no brainer that she is not going to be very forthcoming and giving when it comes to sex if you're foolish enough to take such a girl home because she is very beautiful in your eyes and you really want her. There are no rules requiring her to give you a great experience sexually. That is why finding a girl who actually likes you and with whom you have experienced some chemistry in a private dance and even in conversation at your table is important in the search for the girl who will provide a GFE sexual experience back at your apartment / hotel. The more you feel she is really into you, the better are the chances for good sex if you take her home.

I'm not into DFK with these girls, so I have never had it in a private dance at Rio. But obviously it is something that would be initiated by a customer. Did it ever happen? Possibly, but don't count on it.

All sexual advances during a private dance should be done as a gentleman, by asking permission in advance with a smile, or by touching slowly and gently and then if she lets you and doesn't push you away, you may try to go further. It's common sense, because if you are too rough and grabby, you will be off-putting to her rather than sensual or attractive. So applying that "no grabbing" principle to the focus of your question, I would say that trying to jam your uninvited tongue down her throat in the first moments of a private dance is the surest way to a disaster. As with these things in real life, there is a moment that must be reached between two people for which each advance becomes more appropriate to try, and you must use your judgment in this. If it is your goal to find a girl with whom DFK is possible back at your apartment, then it is reasonable to test the waters with girls during a private dance, as how else will you ever know. But it may not be possible in the private dance room because of club rules. So I've been told by some girls even with reference to just kissing on the lips. Yet again with some girls I did get a kiss on the lips, although not with many. Obviously, just because she would not do certain sexual acts during a $25 private dance, in which there might be cameras in the private rooms, doesn't mean she won't do them when taken out for a date with a $300 fee. So you simply have to gauge the chemistry the girl has with you and make an educated guess about it.

Or one can try working the topic into your conversation with her to find out her thoughts and feelings about the specific sexual act in question. Maybe ask her if she thinks she is a good kisser and get into a whole conversation about kissing. Maybe you can find out if she is a fan of DFK or not. But this is risky as she might say no to doing something when the question is posed in a conversation in a clinical theoretical fashion, whereas in the heat of passion she may well do just that thing about which you asked. A case in point was the issue of enjoying DATY, which one girl at Rio during a private dance said no, she does not like it, and the same girl was taken out by another guy and when he wrote his report it revealed how much she was into DATY and enjoyed it thoroughly.

It's a quandary. How to find out what a girl will do back at the apartment sexually, based upon what she will do during the private dance. We've all been there. Not only about DFK or DATY, but about any of the sexual relations that are part of GFE. We have to use our wits and our judgment and base our educated guess on the clues we can pick up from the girl in conversation with her, as well as what goes down in a private dance with her when you gently test the waters.

LJ

[Charisman]

I didn't find much info about the quality and extent of private dances at Rio here. It is always beneficial to feel chemistry out in a private dance before a take out, but I am unsure of the extent one can get to in Rio dances. What is a typical dance like? What is off limits and what is considered standard? Especially interested in knowing about DFK.

Second question, is there any issue bringing girls to the Intercontinental?