Kyiv

[WyattEarp]

Obviously there will be different feelings depending on the individual, the region or city, and even those could change over time. My only point is that these are considerations that could realistically come into play and that anyone planning a post-war visit would be prudent to keep them in mind.

I think a lot depends on what a post-war Ukraine looks like. It depends on whether the West embarks on a Marshall Plan type rebuilding of the Ukraine. This will take some time.

Ukrainians who lost loved ones can never rebuild their lives back the same.

I wouldn't expect to be greeted with cheering and flowers the day after the resolution of the conflict.

[Hi291]

I was in Kiev during Christmas time for two weeks. I swiped over 500 girls on Mamba before arriving in Kiev and had telegram / WhatsApp contacts of about 20 girls before landing. I asked one of the girls to come to my Airbnb as soon as I arrived and she showed up. She (21 yo) spent the night at my apartment and I fucked her 4 times with Condom- damage 4000 UAH. The service was excellent and the girl was extremely beautiful. NExt day, I contacted other girls in my arsenal and she stayed with me for two days. She offered BBFS for 6000 UAH (2 days and nights) - she was 19 and was enjoying the sex. After that I was contacted by another girl on mamba and she didn't ask for money. She stayed with me 2 days, was 18 yo and a complete nymphomaniac- again BBFS. Fucked her brains out. Similarly, I was able to get stunner, young girls for the rest of my stay.

Takeaways-.

- invest time on mamba.

- don't offer more than 4000 UAH per day. If they ask for more, move on.

- if you keep your filter for 18-22 yo, you will find them.

- don't offer dinner or other means of entertainment before sex. [Deleted by Admin]

PM me for contacts. Some of the girls are willing to travel to Krakow or Warsaw for 2-3 days period.

[HulaHoops]

Guys,

You have to really question your source of news! On another forum that I am part of. I spoke to a member who was sharing negative news on Ukraine, he confessed that he was posting bad news ago Ukraine so that "he could discourage other foreigners from going to the country and he could have the best choice of women at the best price when he visited the country."

Anyone can see that prices are going to very cheap after the war and that women will be looking for men to provide for them. The demand for men with money to spend is going to be extremely high. Just watch out for people spreading bad news about why one shouldn't visit Ukraine.

Do you really think Ukrainian women will hate foreigners coming to their country after war? Of course not. They will look forward to it, especially those coming to spend money.

[Riina]

Ukraine after the war, will be a very attractive destination for tourists as I am sure it will be cheap and they will be extremely welcoming to western visitors who take an interest in their country.

I disagree. Foreigners will be perceived as exploiters and the root cause of this mess.

[Jmsuttr]

In fact I would say that once the war is over, westerners are going to be extremely highly valued in comparison to the local men.

As a man in my 60's, all the women I met (a lot of these women are in their 20's) and know from before are hounding me to let them know when I am arriving back in Kyiv. There was never this much interest in me before the war. I know once I go back to Kyiv when the war is over, it'll be a very enjoyable time for me.

It's my sense that countries and their citizens are likely be viewed more or less favorably according to the level of support they provided Ukraine during the war. At the top of the favorability rankings will be those who "punched above their weight" and truly went above and beyond. That would include countries such as Poland, the Baltics, Czechia, Slovakia, etc. Lower down in the favorability rankings will be countries that provided significant (even essential) support yet, because they are large and rich nations, many will say they've only done what what was reasonable and expected, while others will fault them for not having done more (or done it sooner). Countries on that list would probably include the US, the UK, France, etc.

Consider that, in the minds of many, Ukraine is fighting against Putin on behalf of the West, and especially on behalf of Europe. I'm sure there will be a generally grateful attitude, but I don't think Ukraine will view Western weapons or aid as charity. Rather, and rightfully so (IMO), they'll see it as the price that had to be paid to fight Russian aggression. And they'll point out that Russia's threats against Moldova, the Baltics, the Nordics, and elsewhere, are evidence that Putin was never going to be satisfied with Ukraine only. Zelensky has been making this point on a regular basis and I expect he'll keep doing so.

One final group will be countries and their citizens viewed least favorably, and perhaps even with anger and overt hostility. Those will be countries viewed as either barely lifting a finger to help, being indifferent to Ukraine's fate, or perhaps even being actively sympathetic to Putin. That list will likely include countries like Serbia, Hungary, and Germany (within Europe) and countries like China (outside of Europe).

Obviously there will be different feelings depending on the individual, the region or city, and even those could change over time. My only point is that these are considerations that could realistically come into play and that anyone planning a post-war visit would be prudent to keep them in mind.

[HulaHoops]

In fact I would say that once the war is over, westerners are going to be extremely highly valued in comparison to the local men.

As a man in my 60's, all the women I met (a lot of these women are in their 20's) and know from before are hounding me to let them know when I am arriving back in Kyiv. There was never this much interest in me before the war. I know once I go back to Kyiv when the war is over, it'll be a very enjoyable time for me.

[HulaHoops]

Ukraine after the war, will be a very attractive destination for tourists as I am sure it will be cheap and they will be extremely welcoming to western visitors who take an interest in their country.

[HulaHoops]

I'm in Berlin now and I was able to reflect on my time in Kyiv.

There really was no hostility, people were just scared and unsure what was going to happen if I am honest. They were just a lot of scared people. Of course during war, the native population is more important than foreigners. I stayed in touch with a lot of the men and women I met during my time in Kyiv and they are really looking forward and inviting me to come back when the war is over.

Now with seeing all that the west has done to help Ukraine and punish Russia. I would say Ukrainian people are looking forward to the war being over and foreigners coming to visit and help out Ukraine. Once the war is over, Ukraine will be one of the best places to visit for foreigners and I am sure everything will be cheap.

[Kozerog]

I have misgivings about posting this, because it's hearsay, but I've been reading reports in other forums about hostile attitudes towards foreigners in Kyiv recently, worse in April than in March. Confirms what Hulahoops reports. Some of these people reporting hostility never left Kyiv, others recently returned to check on their apartments. Other reports say attitudes same as ever. Something to think about. If you have a particular girl you want to see, my advice is go to Chisinau, Moldova and have her take the bus there, versus you taking the bus to Kyiv. That's my plan for this summer.

[RacShack]

I'm not a fraud. I had nothing remarkable to post or report, I simply read posts and visited different places. I am sure they are plenty of other lurkers in the forum.

We came here as we knew that foreigners were leaving Ukraine. We also assumed that it would be easier to meet women. We didn't expect Putin to invade and I don't think anyone thought he would actually go through with it.

Again, if you don't believe me that's up to you. I have no motivation to mislead or lie to others. We were assaulted. Now will every foreigner that comes to Ukraine get assaulted? Of course not.

However from what I have observed, there is more of a negative attitude towards obvious foreigners here.

Everything I am posting is just my opinion from what me and my group have experienced. I am not writing this as some authority. I am just a single monger. If someone else comes to Ukraine and doesn't agree with what I posted, that's fine. There's no argument, it is just two different sides. The more information on a place, the better in my opinion.

When the war finishes and other mongers come to Ukraine. I hope they will contribute and write about their experiences on the attitudes of Ukrainians towards foreigners..

Where's the pics you promised bud? Or is their no internet in the bomb shelter? Must be that.

[Hrchrister]

I don't recall looking at this website before today. But I see the prices are $200 to $250 per hour. Wow that's expensive!

Don't use escort. Vc. Ridicolus expencive, they are exploiting tourists and so on. You can easily find the same quality for less money if you interact on the streets, use social medias etc.

[Lucky Nuts]

I noticed that Escort. VC has been back up since March 23 when they updated the "News" section.

You will also see that many of the girls are now working at other European countries under Escort. VC banner.

One even moved to Thailand and another to Crimea.

I don't recall looking at this website before today. But I see the prices are $200 to $250 per hour. Wow that's expensive!

[Sorbonne]

I noticed that Escort. VC has been back up since March 23 when they updated the "News" section.

You will also see that many of the girls are now working at other European countries under Escort. VC banner.

One even moved to Thailand and another to Crimea.

[Golfinho]

Last time in Ukraine for me was 2013. Already there were some bad signs. On the girl front, there were lip and boob implants, or whatever they are, botux, and changed attitude from visits going back a decade. I can't be the only one who noticed this. On the same summer trip, I went down to Odessa, and it happened to be on Ukraine Independence Day. On the edge of a big Park, there was a parade, actually it was a procession of military vehicles -- tanks and various types of similar. They went around in front of the crowd, then back behind a big central building, and came around again over and over. Maybe 20 vehicles, but it created the illusion it was an entire army. The crowd was enthusiastic, especially the kids. When it was over, the vehicles stopped, the troops got out and let the kids in -- into the tanks, into everything. They couldn't be held back and wanted to touch everything. Can't blame them, might have done the same thing at that age if given the chance, only the chance wasn't there. I watched these kids and thought what are they thinking letting them inside tanks and holding the guns like that. Well, here it is ten years' later and they get to play for real.

[HulaHoops]

I'm not a fraud. I had nothing remarkable to post or report, I simply read posts and visited different places. I am sure they are plenty of other lurkers in the forum.

We came here as we knew that foreigners were leaving Ukraine. We also assumed that it would be easier to meet women. We didn't expect Putin to invade and I don't think anyone thought he would actually go through with it.

Again, if you don't believe me that's up to you. I have no motivation to mislead or lie to others. We were assaulted. Now will every foreigner that comes to Ukraine get assaulted? Of course not.

However from what I have observed, there is more of a negative attitude towards obvious foreigners here.

Everything I am posting is just my opinion from what me and my group have experienced. I am not writing this as some authority. I am just a single monger. If someone else comes to Ukraine and doesn't agree with what I posted, that's fine. There's no argument, it is just two different sides. The more information on a place, the better in my opinion.

When the war finishes and other mongers come to Ukraine. I hope they will contribute and write about their experiences on the attitudes of Ukrainians towards foreigners.

As for me being a sleeper account created by Russian trolls. OK. As I have stated repeatedly, if you don't believe me that's fine. I have no reason to lie or mislead anyone.