Kyiv

[Cruiser D]

DJ, you know there is a bigger part of Kiev on the left bank of the Dniper that most tourist never go to.

There a few places in town where tourist don't go and I know about a few of them I just didn't go.

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Hedo, sometimes it's a lot easier to bang a pro 8 for $60/hr. No fuss, no muss, no games.

I remember you posting a while ago with the typical noob questions. Nice to see you popping your head up. What's the going rate for a female personal trainer in Kiev?

Arena is getting a little old - are the same people still making the circuit after the remodel? Kaif is nice because you can always drag some one to the bar if you want to talk. PaTiPi is a little too kinder club for me. Haven't been to Tsar yet - it had just opened the last time I was in Kiev and if I have to wait more then 5 seconds to get into a place it loses it's appeal for me. Decadance is ok. If you are looking for 'ordinary' girls who are 9's you won't be finding them in private clubs. Those girls aren't working the private club circuit looking for 'ordinary' guys.

I know most of you guys missed out on the club scene in your teens and 20's in you native country. And now you are like kids in a candy store when you hit Kiev but trust me it's going to get repetitive in a hurry. Once you spend enough time to break the clique you are going to be like, why did I waste my time. Hot girls in Kiev are all over the place and approachable anywhere. Do you really want a hardened clubber? I find a favorite tactic is networking with hot girls you already know - of course to do this you can't have feed the girl any BS. You'd be surprised how well, 'hey, you know any hot girls interested in dating me' works in Kiev, well at least for me. If she's into you you can add, 'you can join us too' with a wink and a smile.

[Freexsky]

The Marinas look rather fuckable too!

At various days visited these girls of a photo real.
Girls but speak in English

Tonja
http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=219

Olechka & Zhenechka
http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=854

Nastja
http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=100

Anuta & Polina
http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=682

Vika
http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=300

Katja
http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=429

[Hedonist]

I used to pay for play, but since I live here I don't need that anymore. As a matter of fact since I came to Kiev I never felt like paying. Therefore, I don't have much to contribute about the P4P market.

As for clubbing, top clubs are Decadence, Kaif, Patipa, Arena, Tsar's Project (strict face control). Forsage and Sound Planet are crowded by students, but quality is low. Everybody should go to Decadence for at least one time. The eye candy there is absolutely amazing. I have been approached by some working girls there, but most girls are already sponsored and don't need any money. Tsar is sort of an upscale club with strict face control. The music is very good, but the pickings are slim. I take girls I pick-up at Kaif or Patipa to Tsar to impress them. I had most of my successes at Kaif. The layout of Kaif is optimal to approach girls and girls are very approachable there.

What bugs is that I could pick-up any 9s or 10s. You don't get to see a regular girls who is 9 or 10 in ordinary clubs. There is a club (forgot the its, High Life or something like that) which is sort of a closed club that doesn't advertise. I am sure there is a very strict face control there too. The crowd there consists of elitniy people: movie stars, writers, TV people, etc. Again pickings there were also slim. It will take some time and knowledge of Russsian to network and penetrate into this elitniy circle...

The beauty of Ukraine is that one doesn't need to worry about political correctness or sexual harrasment. I already fucked two of my coworkers and I actually had hired one of them. I fucked my personal trainer at the gym, I fucked two students I met in a university career day...

That's all! If you are in town and need a wingman feel free to PM me.

[DJ FourMoney]

Prices won't be much different in the fall.

Coming from UK, about $500 round trip to Kiev, about $100 a day for an apartment and about $100/day running costs. Any P4P or serious carousing will of course be on top of that.

Flight = $500
apartments 10 x 100 = $1000
running costs 10 x 100 = $1000
=
$2500... approx.

That's really not bad for a 10 day holiday. Nothing "comes" for free.

Nope it sure doesn't....

The hap-hazard approach I took to the 2nd half of my trip more than likely cost me an extra $1700. If I it was planned out better, I could have saved that. Staying 14 extra days didn't cost that much more, but the date change fees, missing trains, missing buses, over paying providers (not horribly), etc, etc does add up.

Hindsight being perfect, I should have went to Kiev first since that's the only freebie I got and I would have spent 2-3 weeks there and doing who knows what else in that time period. I believe I would have found a better looking, much younger and child-less freebie inside of 3 weeks.

Oh well...

[Doctor_Skank]

Man I hope you got serious cheddar because buying tickets during the mid summer travel season is really going to cost you a bunch.

In fact I wouldn't be surprised if this venture costed you several thousands of dollars. For an amount like that I would seriously consider staying home or using FKK services in Germany where you can find Ukrainian, Russian, Romainan and Polish girls already working in these places for 50 Euro for 30 mins.

My ticket was $286US roundtrip from FRA and I bought it last minute, if your flying over from the US, it will be at least 6 times more. My local connention also got me a flat for $120 for 4 days near hers on the otherside of town, 20-25 mins away from downtown by metro.

If you can get the hook up like that, then go, but if your spending $2,000+ just to P4P EE punai, reconsider or wait until Oct when the prices go back down and the weather is still decent.

Prices won't be much different in the fall.

Coming from UK, about $500 round trip to Kiev, about $80 a day for a centrally located semi-posh apartment (ask and get long-term discount!) and about $100/day running costs assuming eating out twice a day at an average place and a few drinks at night. Any P4P or serious carousing will of course be on top of that. You could go less on apartments and food, but you will have to spend some money if you are going to be dating and I always feel being centrally located is a plus when dating freebies. Of course you could also spend a lot more on drinks and entertainment as well, but I seem to average about $100/day.

Flight = $500
apartments 10 x 80 = $800
running costs 10 x 100 = $1000
=
$2300... approx.

Say you bang 6 pros...
3 x $120/2 hours for something from the internet = $360
3 x $200/3-4 hours for some RP action = $600

$960

Total $3260.

That's really not bad for a 10 day sex holiday. Nothing "comes" for free, and mongering IS and expensive hobby any way you cut it.

In the fall/winter prices aren't much different. There is less tourist traffic, but much more business traffic.

[DJ FourMoney]

hey guys

i'm gonna be in kiev between july 20-30. still haven't booked flights/apartments but would like to see who is around to hang out and maybe go hit up some places together. drop me a PM!

Man I hope you got serious cheddar because buying tickets during the mid summer travel season is really going to cost you a bunch.

In fact I wouldn't be surprised if this venture costed you several thousands of dollars. For an amount like that I would seriously consider staying home or using FKK services in Germany where you can find Ukrainian, Russian, Romainan and Polish girls already working in these places for 50 Euro for 30 mins.

My ticket was $286US roundtrip from FRA and I bought it last minute, if your flying over from the US, it will be at least 6 times more. My local connention also got me a flat for $120 for 4 days near hers on the otherside of town, 20-25 mins away from downtown by metro.

If you can get the hook up like that, then go, but if your spending $2,000+ just to P4P EE punai, reconsider or wait until Oct when the prices go back down and the weather is still decent.

[DJ FourMoney]

Normal price in Kiev is 300$ for the whole night. Some girls ask for 200$. If you search you can find students with less. I paid 250$ for three girls whole night.

I could sponsor them with 150$ every day or even less.

If you want two girls for 5 days for example, 1. 000$ are possibly enough if you bargain. In RP I offered 300$ for three girls for 2 hours but they refused. They accepted 300$ for 2 girls for 2 hours which I found overpriced. Girls in RP look like normal girls you can have in Kiev with little effort. I would not pay more than 100$ for the whole night with any of them.

Girls may do a lot of extras by bargain. You should negotiate telling her are you serious? Girls in RP cost 200$ the whole night and you ask for 1. 000$? She will lower her price immediately cause she may think girls in RP look better than her.

The challenge is to get freebies in Kiev. If it were not so expensive, it would be the best city. I will get there again, first to province, and maybe a visit to Belarus to compare the situation there. Ukrainian girls are anxious about polish girls giving it for free, what a competition.

Freebies are tough you need to be in town for a time or make contact ahead of time, which I did and nailed a freebie though she was somewhat lower class than the "Professional Club Goer" and the hot (and she is not what I would call the average girl seen walking around Kiev, she was much better looking than your typical chicks I saw floating around the city center during the day) RP girl I chose not to go with.

Arena which I didn't go too and 112 look to be prime "part-timer" spots, along with Caribbean and Shooters.

There a few places in town where tourist don't go and I know about a few of them I just didn't go.

Polish girls are giving up for free????

And I went to Kiev instead??? What as I thinking!

Polish girls are just as hot...

[Explorer69]

After all the writings about this legendary lady, I wanted to meet her! I had gotten her number from a distinguised member of this site. Last week when I was a brief visit in Kiev I tried to contact her, but there was no answer to my calls and SMS. Is she still active?

[Borat69]

hey guys

i'm gonna be in kiev between july 20-30. still haven't booked flights/apartments but would like to see who is around to hang out and maybe go hit up some places together. drop me a PM!

[Irish Lad]

Posted in wrong section!

Anyway, Eva is worth at most $100 a night.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...&postcount=423

IL

[Hecker]

Normal price in Kiev is 300$ for the whole night. Some girls ask for 200$. If you search you can find students with less. I paid 250$ for three girls whole night.

I could sponsor them with 150$ every day or even less.

If you want two girls for 5 days for example, 1. 000$ are possibly enough if you bargain. In RP I offered 300$ for three girls for 2 hours but they refused. They accepted 300$ for 2 girls for 2 hours which I found overpriced. Girls in RP look like normal girls you can have in Kiev with little effort. I would not pay more than 100$ for the whole night with any of them.

Girls may do a lot of extras by bargain. You should negotiate telling her are you serious? Girls in RP cost 200$ the whole night and you ask for 1. 000$? She will lower her price immediately cause she may think girls in RP look better than her.

The challenge is to get freebies in Kiev. If it were not so expensive, it would be the best city. I will get there again, first to province, and maybe a visit to Belarus to compare the situation there. Ukrainian girls are anxious about polish girls giving it for free, what a competition.

[Cumming To Kiev]

Thanks for that. Does that mean the other ads are fakes? And what was Olga like? Was she any good? Would you recommend her? How much do you think she would charge for an overnight?

The Marinas look rather fuckable too!

[Cruiser D]

Kirk, 1k night is insane. You can get a porn star in the US for that. $200-300/hr is what top flight girls in the US are charging. Either too many guys with exepense accounts (and Russians with cash) are going to Kiev or the girl is just trying to find out how desperate you are. To put it in perspective - a average decent job in Kiev is paying $300-500/month.

Checking out the pictures from topmodels and after recent trips it's nice to see Kiev girls are getting well accustomed to implants. I know some people don't like them but I just love a good boob job on a hot girl.

[Freexsky]

From this only Olga's photo real

http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=636

I can advise the variants checked up by me

Marina
http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=437

Marina
http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=135

[Freexsky]

Hello again,

Thanks for all the advice so far (and the abuse!)

Has anyone enjoyed any of these little ladies, and have anything good or bad to say about them? I'll be over the week after next and would love to have one of these lovelies bouncing on the end of my cock! And yes, I WILL be writing reports and posting photos (if they let me take any! ) Are these girls for real? Are they safe? All comments appreciated.

Zhanna - http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=764
Lada - http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=487
Olga - http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=636
Eva - http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=651
Sonja - http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=777
Nika - http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=417
Many thanks in advance! Let the abuse commence!

From this only Olga's photo real

http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=636

I can advise the variants checked up by me

Marina
http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=437

Marina
http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=135