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  1. #8935

    Thanks for the Good report

    Quote Originally Posted by CallSign Papa  [View Original Post]
    I think I first went to Kiev around 2004/5 and I fell in love with it the first time I walked Kreshatyk. I've been back many times, pretty much always through work, but the one thing that's never changed is that buzz I get when I talk my first stroll along that busy, girl filled street.

    Having just spend 10 day here (including a brief sojourn to Rovno. See Other Areas thread) , I was keen to try as much non-P4P action as I could lay my grubby hands on. Being there for 10 days meant that I could play the long game, which (unless you're Brad Pittski) is essential for results. I made a number of contacts through Mamba, but my real successes were actually girls I'd gone on the odd date with on previous visits and we'd just lost touch. Twice I met with girls I'd had dinner with before (with no results) , and twice I got luckier than I could have hoped.

    First a detour. I didn't dabble much in P4P, but what little I did do (forgoing my usual favourite hangout D'Lux) was on Mamba. This site has always been 95% bait and switch when it comes to girls interested in sex for denghi, and it really is a lottery as to what's going to turn up at your door (and FYI, they ALWAYS promise that it's their photos, because mostly, they aren't going to the one showing up at your door, so what do they care about lying for?).

    I spent the majority of my time in Kiev going for dinner for regular girls, (5 dinner dates. 3 coffee dates = 3 over night stays from two girls, and one afternoon adventure with a third, them's good odds). Two of those girls I saw on numerous occasions and both mostly involved us being naked inside 4 minutes. If only I could have got these two together. Clearly the benefit of non-P4P dates is that if they don't like you or aren't into you in some way, they aren't going to be getting undressed near you anytime soon. That means if they do, they're going to REALLY into it (as only ukrainian girls can be, for me).

    But I did I eventually did get a hankering for a hot girl to just show up, fuck and then disappear (something non-P4Pers don't usually accommodate). So I decided on my last night run an experiment, I would call a number o girls from Mamba and only let one in if the photos were really hers. I was willing to tit about all night if necessary (The Expendables was on tv, I had beer, it was warm inside). As I was in a good mood, I decided to offer rejected girls taxi money.

    So how did it go?

    First girl, supposed to be blonde. 21, beautiful and slim. What I got was more like 41, chubby and slightly greying! She was sent away.

    Second girl, supposed to be 23, tall, slim, brunette, gorgeous. What I got, tall, horse like, big boned. She was sent away.

    Third girl, supposed to be 21, tall, slim, brunette, beautiful. What I got tall, slim, brunette, beautiful. But not the girl in the photos. So what a quandary. Should I continue the experiment or cash in and enjoy the night. Yes, doesn't take a brain surgeon to work that one out does it. 800 for 2 hours.

    Whilst I can't remember her name, I did get some photos (see photo thread) , she was 21, had good english and apparently was genuinely bi. She asked if I wanted her gf to come over too, I did, but when she called her friend was busy. Ah well, nearly.

    We had a few drinks, relaxed and eventually went to the bedroom where she performed admirably. Beautiful body and a great ass. Definitely recommended.

    As always I was incredibly sad to be leaving and very apprehensive about how soon I can get back. My advice would be to make the most of it before the Euro's start, no telling how that will impact the city in terms of "our game".
    Hello, Callsign Papa. Good report. Do you think it is possible to PM me the mamba brunette girl's contact info. I will be there in Kiev in early January.

    Thanks.

    Miscgk

  2. #8934
    Quote Originally Posted by Gergiev  [View Original Post]
    Hopefully Grivna and not euro or dollars?
    Thanks. Was indeed Grivna Gergiev, have now uploaded some photos of her.

  3. #8933

    Quantitative Easing?

    Quote Originally Posted by CallSign Papa  [View Original Post]
    Third girl, supposed to be 21, tall, slim, brunette, beautiful. What I got tall, slim, brunette, beautiful. But not the girl in the photos. So what a quandary. Should I continue the experiment or cash in and enjoy the night. Yes, doesn't take a brain surgeon to work that one out does it. 800 for 2 hours.
    CSP, great reports particularly the one on Rovno/Rivne.

    Out of curiosity, what currency are you talking about above?

    Hopefully Grivna and not euro or dollars?

    VG

  4. #8932
    Again and again. But can you describe exactly which type of sex and bdsm all of you made? We don't want adjectives but facts. Please!

    Quote Originally Posted by CallSign Papa  [View Original Post]
    I think I first went to Kiev around 2004/5 and I fell in love with it the first time I walked Kreshatyk. I've been back many times, pretty much always through work, but the one thing that's never changed is that buzz I get when I talk my first stroll along that busy, girl filled street.

    Having just spend 10 day here (including a brief sojourn to Rovno. See Other Areas thread) , I was keen to try as much non-P4P action as I could lay my grubby hands on. Being there for 10 days meant that I could play the long game...

  5. #8931

    Kiev Trip

    I think I first went to Kiev around 2004/5 and I fell in love with it the first time I walked Kreshatyk. I've been back many times, pretty much always through work, but the one thing that's never changed is that buzz I get when I talk my first stroll along that busy, girl filled street.

    Having just spend 10 day here (including a brief sojourn to Rovno. See Other Areas thread) , I was keen to try as much non-P4P action as I could lay my grubby hands on. Being there for 10 days meant that I could play the long game, which (unless you're Brad Pittski) is essential for results. I made a number of contacts through Mamba, but my real successes were actually girls I'd gone on the odd date with on previous visits and we'd just lost touch. Twice I met with girls I'd had dinner with before (with no results) , and twice I got luckier than I could have hoped.

    First a detour. I didn't dabble much in P4P, but what little I did do (forgoing my usual favourite hangout D'Lux) was on Mamba. This site has always been 95% bait and switch when it comes to girls interested in sex for denghi, and it really is a lottery as to what's going to turn up at your door (and FYI, they ALWAYS promise that it's their photos, because mostly, they aren't going to the one showing up at your door, so what do they care about lying for?).

    I spent the majority of my time in Kiev going for dinner for regular girls, (5 dinner dates. 3 coffee dates = 3 over night stays from two girls, and one afternoon adventure with a third, them's good odds). Two of those girls I saw on numerous occasions and both mostly involved us being naked inside 4 minutes. If only I could have got these two together. Clearly the benefit of non-P4P dates is that if they don't like you or aren't into you in some way, they aren't going to be getting undressed near you anytime soon. That means if they do, they're going to REALLY into it (as only ukrainian girls can be, for me).

    But I did I eventually did get a hankering for a hot girl to just show up, fuck and then disappear (something non-P4Pers don't usually accommodate). So I decided on my last night run an experiment, I would call a number o girls from Mamba and only let one in if the photos were really hers. I was willing to tit about all night if necessary (The Expendables was on tv, I had beer, it was warm inside). As I was in a good mood, I decided to offer rejected girls taxi money.

    So how did it go?

    First girl, supposed to be blonde. 21, beautiful and slim. What I got was more like 41, chubby and slightly greying! She was sent away.

    Second girl, supposed to be 23, tall, slim, brunette, gorgeous. What I got, tall, horse like, big boned. She was sent away.

    Third girl, supposed to be 21, tall, slim, brunette, beautiful. What I got tall, slim, brunette, beautiful. But not the girl in the photos. So what a quandary. Should I continue the experiment or cash in and enjoy the night. Yes, doesn't take a brain surgeon to work that one out does it. 800 for 2 hours.

    Whilst I can't remember her name, I did get some photos (see photo thread) , she was 21, had good english and apparently was genuinely bi. She asked if I wanted her gf to come over too, I did, but when she called her friend was busy. Ah well, nearly.

    We had a few drinks, relaxed and eventually went to the bedroom where she performed admirably. Beautiful body and a great ass. Definitely recommended.

    As always I was incredibly sad to be leaving and very apprehensive about how soon I can get back. My advice would be to make the most of it before the Euro's start, no telling how that will impact the city in terms of "our game".

  6. #8930
    But can you describe exactly which type of sex and bdsm all of you made? We don't want adjectives but facts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirch  [View Original Post]
    Arrived last Friday in Kiev with a friend and were lucky to get an apartment right next to Rio (just 5 seconds walk.). So of course the first night we went to our basement. Now that I now to walk around the areas in order to see all the girls and to tip the manager every time with 100 Griwna it worked pretty good. We got a table in the VIP room but the girls were no good at all so I walked over to the other room every other song to check out what's going on there. But it was not good either. I was too lazy to go the basement room but when I had to go to the restroom after 10 Bacardi Cokes I took a quick look and HOSSA here are the beauties tonight! For my kind of taste almost all of them 8-10! Young, tall, slim, natural too big breats and wonderful faces. So I asked Slawik to get a table downstairs and as he knows me from my last visit it took us 2 minutes to get down there and a nice table. I asked for girl I had several times before (sorry for not saying who it is as she always stays like 6-8 hours in my apartement; I don't want to get her in trouble). By the way, the girls do not have to go back to RIO before they close, someone wrote it here. It seems it's just an excuse to leave clients. So I talked to my beauty and my friend liked a young blond slim one who was very nice. After one hour we got upstairs and of course we went to Billa and Duty Free so the fridge was full with cheap champagne, Whiskey and Bacardi. The IPod station played Rammstein (I'm from Germany and don't know why they like it so much). Of course we got some presents for the ladies, one was a Girlie Shirt from Rammstein. They loved it. So after 3 hours, all of us drunk they started a lesbian show and we took many pictures. IT WAS LIKE HEAVEN! Then we did what they came for and the ladies left at around 10:00 am.

    Next day we invited 3 girls we know from here to our apartment and they cooked for us. Again a lot of alcohol and after a couple of hours they got drunk and horny but as they are really good contacts for us to order taxi late at night, showing us new spots, translating things, etc. We decided not to go to bed with them. It's better this way.

    Next day we did some coffee meetings with mamba and other girls we met last time. Nice but again a lot of work to get them there where you want to.

    In the evening we went to Rio again and decided right away for the basement room and again the most beautiful girls there! I couldn't decide which to take and in addition I was so confused beacuse last time I was in Kiew almost noone of the beauties wanted to go with me. Only private dances. And this time everyone wanted to go. Strange! So I decided for one of the most beautiful girls I have ever seen (even next morning without alcohol she was still amazing!). I went upstairs with her and my little Duschka I have always. So time for a threesome. Again we drinked a lot listend to Rock Music and talking about stupid things. After 3 hours they were drunk and so willing and won't say what they did but I can say I had this experience not many times so far. They left at 9:00 am. So again much more time than the 2-3 hours they normally do. I don't know why it works so good this time. But I can just give one advice. I always talk a lot to them in a really nice way, like I'm a really nice guy and that we just want to have some fun with drinking and party. When they are in the aprtment I continue talking talking and offering drinks and provide them good music from my ipod. Some presents are very welcome as well. After a while they get so relaxed that it works just perfect. But of course I sepnd a lot of time to separate in Rio good from bad. With a little bit experience it almost always works.

    Right now I have my third Bacardi and heading to Rio in about one hour. Only 2 days left and so many girls on my list! We have to come back in January.

  7. #8929
    Quote Originally Posted by Liljoey  [View Original Post]
    Which is The Best FKK Supplement to a Kiev Trip

    CONCLUSION: In planning future Kiev trips with a stop on the way home at an FKK as a Sex Insurance Policy, I will choose Frankfurt area FKK's, probably Oase, over the Vienna version of the FKK, if possible logistically. (or I might decide to investigate Kirch's assertion in an earlier post that the girls are much better looking at Golden Time in Bruggen than the Oase girls). [B]

    LJ
    Well GT in Brüggen is IMO not at top at the moment.

    Villa Vertigo has on the other hand a solid line-up with some Baltic / Russian girls.

    I'll prefer Palace over Oase girl-wise.

  8. #8928

    Help!

    $$$$ USD. Debit Cards. X-change?

    Few weeks ago I read in the news about limits on getting CASH!

    Have to be registered or have documents?

    Whats up?

    Will my debit card 'spit' out grivnas!

    Need to prepare. Thanks!

    LS Guy

  9. #8927

    Mr Kirch, please snap a picture.

    Maybe a boob or something.

  10. #8926

    Short report from Kiev

    Arrived last Friday in Kiev with a friend and were lucky to get an apartment right next to Rio (just 5 seconds walk.). So of course the first night we went to our basement. Now that I now to walk around the areas in order to see all the girls and to tip the manager every time with 100 Griwna it worked pretty good. We got a table in the VIP room but the girls were no good at all so I walked over to the other room every other song to check out what's going on there. But it was not good either. I was too lazy to go the basement room but when I had to go to the restroom after 10 Bacardi Cokes I took a quick look and HOSSA here are the beauties tonight! For my kind of taste almost all of them 8-10! Young, tall, slim, natural too big breats and wonderful faces. So I asked Slawik to get a table downstairs and as he knows me from my last visit it took us 2 minutes to get down there and a nice table. I asked for girl I had several times before (sorry for not saying who it is as she always stays like 6-8 hours in my apartement; I don't want to get her in trouble). By the way, the girls do not have to go back to RIO before they close, someone wrote it here. It seems it's just an excuse to leave clients. So I talked to my beauty and my friend liked a young blond slim one who was very nice. After one hour we got upstairs and of course we went to Billa and Duty Free so the fridge was full with cheap champagne, Whiskey and Bacardi. The IPod station played Rammstein (I'm from Germany and don't know why they like it so much). Of course we got some presents for the ladies, one was a Girlie Shirt from Rammstein. They loved it. So after 3 hours, all of us drunk they started a lesbian show and we took many pictures. IT WAS LIKE HEAVEN! Then we did what they came for and the ladies left at around 10:00 am.

    Next day we invited 3 girls we know from here to our apartment and they cooked for us. Again a lot of alcohol and after a couple of hours they got drunk and horny but as they are really good contacts for us to order taxi late at night, showing us new spots, translating things, etc. We decided not to go to bed with them. It's better this way.

    Next day we did some coffee meetings with mamba and other girls we met last time. Nice but again a lot of work to get them there where you want to.

    In the evening we went to Rio again and decided right away for the basement room and again the most beautiful girls there! I couldn't decide which to take and in addition I was so confused beacuse last time I was in Kiew almost noone of the beauties wanted to go with me. Only private dances. And this time everyone wanted to go. Strange! So I decided for one of the most beautiful girls I have ever seen (even next morning without alcohol she was still amazing!). I went upstairs with her and my little Duschka I have always. So time for a threesome. Again we drinked a lot listend to Rock Music and talking about stupid things. After 3 hours they were drunk and so willing and won't say what they did but I can say I had this experience not many times so far. They left at 9:00 am. So again much more time than the 2-3 hours they normally do. I don't know why it works so good this time. But I can just give one advice. I always talk a lot to them in a really nice way, like I'm a really nice guy and that we just want to have some fun with drinking and party. When they are in the aprtment I continue talking talking and offering drinks and provide them good music from my ipod. Some presents are very welcome as well. After a while they get so relaxed that it works just perfect. But of course I sepnd a lot of time to separate in Rio good from bad. With a little bit experience it almost always works.

    Right now I have my third Bacardi and heading to Rio in about one hour. Only 2 days left and so many girls on my list! We have to come back in January.

  11. #8925
    Quote Originally Posted by Latexian2  [View Original Post]
    Yes Aeroflot and Transaero are both alright but not great, although both have good safety records.

    As for the transit visa you should call and check. I know it used to be the case that domestic flights (former USSR) were all from Sheremetyevo-1 and international were all to / from Sheremetyov-2. While they are theoretically two "terminals" in fact they are almost like separate airports since you have to ride a bus between them. There used to be no way to do that without entering Russia, but I'm not sure if that's true anymore. I know the new terminal (D?) is connected with the old 2 terminal. Anyways I would call Aeroflot and ask. Don't assume you can do it.
    Yes GlobalNomad is right. I traveled by Aeroflot last December 2010 and transited without visa. My stay at the airport Terminal D was about 6hours as I waited for my flight to Kiev. So yes visa was not required for less than 24hours stay in Moscow International or Sheremetyevo. Quality of Aeroflot service. Not good.

    Thanks,

    Miscgk

  12. #8924
    Quote Originally Posted by Globalnomad5  [View Original Post]
    Yes, it is true that you don't need a Russian transit visa if your stopover is less than 24 hours and you don't leave the transit area, that is do not go through immigration and customs.

    Aeroflot is comparable to other European and North American airlines, but not as good as the better Asian and Middle Eastern ones. I wouldn't hesitate to use it if the fare was significantly cheaper than competitors.
    Yes Aeroflot and Transaero are both alright but not great, although both have good safety records.

    As for the transit visa you should call and check. I know it used to be the case that domestic flights (former USSR) were all from Sheremetyevo-1 and international were all to / from Sheremetyov-2. While they are theoretically two "terminals" in fact they are almost like separate airports since you have to ride a bus between them. There used to be no way to do that without entering Russia, but I'm not sure if that's true anymore. I know the new terminal (D?) is connected with the old 2 terminal. Anyways I would call Aeroflot and ask. Don't assume you can do it.

  13. #8923
    Quote Originally Posted by Liljoey  [View Original Post]
    Which is The Best FKK Supplement to a Kiev Trip

    RUSSIAN TRANSIT VISA? A parting question to those whose travels include Russia. There are flights to Kiev on Aeroflot and Transaero with attractive low prices in the upper $600's instead of the $800's charged by all the other airlines. The lower price makes the idea of additional visits to Kiev more attractive. Until now, I have stayed away from those flights because they transit through Russia with a stopover of around 4 hours there between flights to Kiev, and I thought getting a transit visa would be a hassle and end up costing more than an $800 ticket. It has come to my attention that a transit visa might not be necessary if I'm just flying through to Kiev and not leaving the airport in Moscow. Is it true that if the stopover in Russia is less than 24 hours and one stays at the airport, that one does not need to obtain any transit visa? Any other reason not to fly to Kiev on Aeroflot or Transaero?

    Happy Winter Mongering.

    LJ
    Yes, it is true that you don't need a Russian transit visa if your stopover is less than 24 hours and you don't leave the transit area, that is do not go through immigration and customs.

    Aeroflot is comparable to other European and North American airlines, but not as good as the better Asian and Middle Eastern ones. I wouldn't hesitate to use it if the fare was significantly cheaper than competitors.

  14. #8922

    Weekend of November 24 to 28 (Thanksgiving Weekend)

    Which is The Best FKK Supplement to a Kiev Trip

    The 'FKK Sex Insurance Policy' – is a notion I have discussed before. It is a means of evening up the score for any sexual failures and rejections encountered in a short weekend Kiev foray, by capping off that weekend with an intense sexual romp in the FKK. The consecutive and multiple couplings with very hot young girls that are possible at the FKK, will cause one to arrive home completely drained of all one's sexual juices. Upon proper completion of an FKK mission, one should leave the sauna club in a deliriously dessicated state, slap—happy from extreme sexual exhaustion.

    It reminds me of the 1975 satirical film 'Shampoo. ' In that film, George (played by Warren Beatty) is a successful Beverly Hills hairdresser, whose occupation and charisma have provided him the perfect platform from which to meet, and bed, many, many, beautiful women. In one of the funny scenes from that film, on one particular night it seems that all of his most important clients demand his services at once, and so we see Warren Beatty clutching his balls as he staggers from one sexual laison to the next.

    That would be a fitting way for one to leave an FKK – the Warren Beatty way. LOL.

    The FKK Insurance Policy is thus designed to insure a result that is the diametric opposite of an asexual result, such as Borderland's recent futile wanderings in Kiev.

    The Prime Objective of a Monger / Sex Tourist: Not coming home feeling sexually deprived.

    Those who follow my posts know that my focus in Kiev has been p4p primarily because of the short nature of my visits on weekends of two or three nights at a time coupled with my firm belief in the 'prime objective' stated above. Yet, I also enjoyed reading Borderland's post and commend him on his fearless and inspiring persistence in hitting on the girls he met on the streets and in the bars and nightclubs, and his honesty in reporting on his failures as well as his successes.

    I too try to write about my failures, because I feel that part of the objective in writing reports, aside from being informative of useful facts, is pointing out mistakes to help others avoid them, so that they can better have fun while in Kiev. The other part is being entertaining. Borderland achieved both, and is to be commended and encouraged to post more good reports on this forum.

    However, while one cannot help but admire the girl skills of those who score freebies regularly, ultimately I cannot glorify the approach of going to a place like Kiev with the intention to NOT have sex, but just to try picking girls up. This type of experimenting can and should be done at far lower cost on one's home turf. Unless a fellow lives nearby to Kiev, or it costs him very little in money and time to travel there, it just makes no sense to waste the opportunity of finally getting there, and not to try to score with some of the delectable Kiev devushkas. I guess upon reading a report like Borderland's, one can only say, to each his own. But my feeling is that a person who goes to Kiev to see the sights and just to flirt with the pretty girls, is merely a regular tourist. This is, however, not the behavior of a 'monger', nor even of a 'sex tourist'. The bottom line is that were I to return from a trip to Kiev without a sufficient number of p4p experiences and / or freebie sexual conquests under my belt, I would be highly disappointed. I have a feeling most readers here would also be disappointed with a trip to a place like Kiev resulting in no sexual experiences.

    So for this reason, I will direct my comments below toward how to have the most sex fun out of a short visit to Kiev.

    What Happened at FKK Goldentime Vienna

    For the report of my observations and experiences at FKK Goldentime you may click on the following link to my post on the Vienna thread:

    http://www.InternationalSexGuide.inf...=1#post1225621

    FKK Goldentime Vienna vs. FKK Oase near Frankfurt: FKK Oase Wins

    FKK Goldentime in Vienna is very good during evenings, except Sunday, but is dead during the daytime until after 5pm. The reason appears to be that this FKK depends on customers who are mainly locals who come after work hours. There are Hungarian and Slovakian blondes to be found at the club, but the bulk of the ladies, are Romanian and Bulgarian. Some of the girls are 9's and some even 10's.

    FKK Oase in Burgholzhausen 20km north of Frankfurt is a far better choice for excursions including daytime or Sunday visits. This is because there are many more girls available during the daytime or on Sunday at the Oase club. This may be because Frankfurt is a convention city and many non local travelers attend the club, or may be a factor of where the girls reside in relation to the club, or other factors. But it is the case. Although predominantly the girls are Romanian at Oase too, there are also some fine looking blonde German and Polish girls to be found there as well. There are a good number of 9's and some 10's too, and the club is larger and has more girls generally.

    CONCLUSION: In planning future Kiev trips with a stop on the way home at an FKK as a Sex Insurance Policy, I will choose Frankfurt area FKK's, probably Oase, over the Vienna version of the FKK, if possible logistically. (or I might decide to investigate Kirch's assertion in an earlier post that the girls are much better looking at Golden Time in Bruggen than the Oase girls).

    My Three Nights in Kiev


    November 24 – Thursday. My flight arrived from Vienna in the evening, but I had arranged for the basic shopping for provisions from the supermarket to be done by the apartment rental agency for a small fee ($15) in order to save time (thanks for the idea IT Travel). So when I got checked in to my apartment in Kiev near the Maidan, I unpacked and stowed my gear, ate something, showered and shaved and was off to Rio, arriving by around 11:30pm.

    As I came in to the downstairs bar, I spotted my old nemesis, Lera, who I can't help my attraction to. Lera is blonde and has a very pretty face, nice boobs and a good body. This time she was all smiles and wanted to go home with me. I confirmed with her if that includes oral sex too, meaning DATY and BJ, and she smiled and promised 'yes it does. ' So we're finally going to have normal sex like a boyfriend and girlfriend? She smiled and nodded her head, 'yes'. I was thrilled, because I had wanted this girl for so long and those of you who have read my earlier posts know how she drove me crazy last time and took advantage of my feelings for her, not permitting oral sex in the end, and only providing a hand job and intercourse. Knowing her penchant for lying about such things and changing her mind later, and therefore wanting an insurance policy, I said that I also promised another friend of mine to take her home, so is she ok with another girl coming also. I got the green light for that, and just then there was Ada on stage. I smiled at her and sent Lera over to her to tuck a 50 UAH note into her bikini as she danced. Ada, a tall brunette with an awesome body and very cute face, looked great and soon joined us at my table. The two girls seemed to have a good rapport, so I said we shall do a duo private dance, to check out what it might be like with the both of them. The private dance was very hot. Neither of them had any shyness about touching me where it counts with their hands. So I decided to go for it, and Thursday night was the night of the Lera and Ada. Duo

    Lera showered first and then me, and I thought what better way to pass the time while Ada was showering, than to initiate Lera with a session of DATY, but as I half expected, she declined, claiming she didn't like it. There it was again. She reneged on her promise. What a liar this girl is. Watch out boys and tread carefully with her if you decide to take her for a whirl. I didn't believe for a minute that she didn't like receiving oral sex, and thought that more probably it was that her mother (who is a doctor) told her to never let a boy kiss her pussy because she will get diseases from it. I realized that there would be little chance of changing the mind of a girl whose sex life was fucked up by an overprotective mother's brainwashing (ok, yeah, some part of me knew the mother was right) , so I gave up on the prospect of getting DATY with Lera. Thankfully, Lera did not renege completely on her promises and agreed to give me a blow job, albeit covered.

    By this time Ada had joined us, so I had the beautiful and naked Lera lay back and had Ada lay back with her head on Lera's lap, while I went down on Ada, determined to show Lera what she was missing. I have been with Ada many times before and she is very responsive to me. So I knew how much she loves my DATY, how she moans and shrieks as she approaches climax and how explosive her orgasms are. And I knew I was about to give Lera quite a show and perhaps something to think about. Ada delivered just as expected, shrieking and shuddering in orgasm as Lera held her in her lap and arms. Lera's face was blushing. I asked her if she had ever seen such an orgasm, and she shook her head. Did she like what she had seen? Yes, she nodded. I left the next question, unsaid.

    Now it's my turn, I said, and I lied down on my back, got Ada up above me positioning her pussy above my mouth, so I could see her stomach and breasts and watch her face as I proceeded to perform oral sex on her again propelling her towards her second orgasm, while at the same time I motioned to Lera to get busy going down on me, as she had promised. Lera delivered. It was and energetic and skilled blow job, which included deep throat, I was happy to feel. Too bad it was a covered BJ. After a while, I motioned for Lera to get up on me cowgirl, while I continued to pleasure Ada whose ever increasing moans were a sexual catalyst for the other girl as well. And so I began the fucking of beautiful Lera, while my face was buried in Ada's sweet pussy; my hands holding her shuddering body above me. Lera did not know then, as she was blissfully bouncing up and down, that I was about to turn all my attentions on her and fuck her in a way I hoped her pussy wouldn't soon forget. However, I knew I had to balance the enthusiasm I had for fucking Lera, with the need to leave some energy over to do justice for Ada, who is a great sex partner.

    The session proceeded from this auspicious beginning to even better. Suffice it to say, it was great fun, enhanced by the fact that Ada loves to watch a girlfriend getting fucked real good. It happens every time. The other girl is on her back moaning and shrieking from the fucking she is receiving, and I look over into Ada's intently watching eyes and we smile knowingly at each other and I lean toward her and kiss her, as the pounding of the girl beneath me and her screaming continue – a tender moment between two voyeurs.

    The next night, Friday November 25, I sat up in the VIP room at Rio. This night was dedicated to Katya all by herself. She is a very lovely and sexy brunette, with a great body and gorgeous long silky brown hair. Her drawback is she will not allow DATY unless her pussy is covered with protection (for which I use the latex of a torn apart. Condom) , another girl brainwashed by her mother not to let the boys kiss her pussy or she will get diseases. Despite this, sex with her is otherwise wonderful, and I'm sweet on her.

    Saturday night November 26 I was both in the upstairs bar and in the VIP bar at Rio.

    In fact just as I went in to the VIP room, some other ISG members, TheKnight and Immy007, showed up and we sat together at my favorite couch in the VIP next to the small stage where two girls dance together. Great to see you guys again! My compatriots had decided not to pull anyone from Rio that night and to go clubbing at D'lux instead, so they left around midnight.

    Since it was my last Kiev night, I decided to stay at Rio and try to take out Sophia, a pretty blonde I had been with the last trip. That didn't work out because she chose to go with someone else. Ada came to sit with me and she pushed hard for me to take her out with one of her bisexual friends Rita or Michelle. I chose Michelle. So Saturday night was a duo with Ada and Michelle. Michelle had no hang-ups and allowed DATY. She didn't know what hit her. The session went off in a similar fashion to the duo on Thursday night. Lots of fun.

    During the three nights I had in Kiev, I saw a very good line up at Rio, but it seemed the quantity of girls was not as numerous as it had been in other times. The line ups in each bar had about 15 girls, so there were maybe 50 girls in the whole club to choose from, with many good lookers. I shall not again go into the reasons why Rio is a good place to spend time mongering at night in Kiev from various perspectives, as I have written about that in my previous posts, and those who are interested can find that information by looking at the prior posts. From the lack of a large amount of activity on the Kiev thread it doesn't seem that many guys go to Kiev during this part of the year, so I don't think there is much utility in maintaining the list with the hottest girls' names, as this will all change over the few months of the winter, until monger visitors start to come back to Kiev in significant number. Before coming to Kiev, I had collected about 25 good numbers from mamba. Ru, but due to sheer exhaustion during the daytime, I slept most of the time, and didn't call any of them. Instead I played all night with the Rio girls. It was great fun, and I had my stop on the way home at FKK Goldentime to look forward to also. All in all, I enjoyed the trip very much.

    FUTURE TRIPS:

    In December I have a weekend (December 15 – 18) lined up in San Jose, Costa Rica for a change of pace and maybe some nicer weather. One of the hotties I met there previously and wanted to hook up with, just emailed me that she is now in Jaco Beach and wants me to come there instead of going to the Delrey Hotel in San Jose as I had intended. If my newbie buddies were coming with me to CR, I would have taken them to Jaco to stay at the Copacabana Hotel. I've wanted to check that place out for a while. It's an adults only resort, which has a second swimming pool that is clothing optional, and many girls hanging around. I didn't think I would want to go there solo. But with a girl I know asking me to come there, maybe it would be fun.

    As for future visits to wonderful Kiev, I will be there during the last week of March and first week of April 2012, exact dates to be determined, but probably between March 29 – April 4, or something like that.

    There is a long holiday weekend on February 16 – 21, and have not decided what to do with that time slot. Possible plans are for a trip to Frankfurt area FKK's, but a visit to Kiev is also possible. It depends in part on the airfares.

    RUSSIAN TRANSIT VISA? A parting question to those whose travels include Russia. There are flights to Kiev on Aeroflot and Transaero with attractive low prices in the upper $600's instead of the $800's charged by all the other airlines. The lower price makes the idea of additional visits to Kiev more attractive. Until now, I have stayed away from those flights because they transit through Russia with a stopover of around 4 hours there between flights to Kiev, and I thought getting a transit visa would be a hassle and end up costing more than an $800 ticket. It has come to my attention that a transit visa might not be necessary if I'm just flying through to Kiev and not leaving the airport in Moscow. Is it true that if the stopover in Russia is less than 24 hours and one stays at the airport, that one does not need to obtain any transit visa? Any other reason not to fly to Kiev on Aeroflot or Transaero?

    Happy Winter Mongering.

    LJ

  15. #8921
    Thanks for reports and advertisements, but which kind of men can pay those huge prices for NOTHING? This is a forum about raw sex and not about mental masturbation. It doesn't make sense to talk about the "beauty", the "flawlessness", the "youth" if there is no genuine sex at a honest price. Those bitc* have cheated you definitely! OMG where we have arrived to.

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