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10-03-15 12:37 #15113
Posts: 23Goint there in autumn
Hi there!
I am going to Kiev in autumn, any advice for me? I was never there before and I am not sure where I should search for hotel / apartment? What is the best area? So not only for P6, but also for mongering in general, so bars and clubs? What is the situation currently? Where and how can one get to know the women in Kiev? And one stupid simple question: How do I get from the airport to the city center? I arrive at the airport which is quite far away and I do not want to be a victim of taxi driver rip off. So any advice? Public transportation, is this an option?
Thanks a lot for the help!
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10-02-15 19:57 #15112
Posts: 86Originally Posted by DudeNextDoor [View Original Post]
IMHO for this kind of prices it would be much cheaper for me to fly to Kiev for a weekend. Personally when I find a girl on mamba or TG having pictures of her either in Dubai or Turkey I sat away from her. Few days ago I met a very cute girl on TG who worked in Dubai from short time, she wanted me to send her money, flowers, gifts just to get her interested to talk. When I told her if you find a fool to do that let me know because I have property in in Florida ocean side I would like to sell, she really got pissed and kept going on about how well she was treated (money wise in Dubai). So I guess we should all stay away from the ones worked outside abroad. Man its getting harder and harder for us.
Cheers.
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10-02-15 09:31 #15111
Posts: 149Totally agree! Once they are experienced and move to other countries they are nothing special anymore. Too much professional but still some of them are great GFE experience. But for double or triple money. Remember the times on Nevsky prospect in St. Petersburg in 1999 when every girl turned around and smiled to me because I am from Germany. Talked to them we ended up (after buying flowers, having coffee etc) in the hotel. Next morning one out of 3 situations appeared: 1) She asked for USD 200 and left 2) She gave me her number, said she is a student and were happy if I have some little money 3) she gave me her number and asked if we meet again. But nevertheless if 1), 2) or 3) = the sex was like great GFE!
Originally Posted by Riina [View Original Post]
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10-01-15 21:32 #15110
Posts: 709Originally Posted by Kirch [View Original Post]
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10-01-15 19:15 #15109
Posts: 91Independents and agencies
You get in touch with a Ukrainian or Russian number via whatsapp. The manager sets up the appointment. Manager gives you the room number when you are at the hotel at the set meeting time. The girl will be waiting in her room, without a clue who will show up at her room door! Very few of them are freelancers or independents as the site categories them.
P.S: Be aware there is also an Ukrainian agency calls itself independent. (Just look at the phone numbers, if more then 1 independent girl has the same number then that is the agency!) Good Luck! Happy hunting!
Originally Posted by Bill1963 [View Original Post]
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10-01-15 17:42 #15108
Posts: 71Pimped
Originally Posted by DudeNextDoor [View Original Post]
Instead of freelancing in Ukraine?
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10-01-15 17:12 #15107
Posts: 149Skinny Russian girls in other Countrys
Yes, I was told so as well. Last weekend I was in London. I went to some locations as well to Strip Clubs but nothing like 9-10. I checked the hundreds of Escort webpages advertising with Russian girls but the photos are so much photoshopped! They all look not natural at all and ask for GBP 250 and up! But I heard as well that Istanbul should be good so I will test soon! Back in Dubai soon but the same over there! It was good until 4-5 years ago. But now only 4-7's and if you go to Chin Chin at Fairmont you have only those surgery babes that I don't like. Not easy.
Originally Posted by DudeNextDoor [View Original Post]
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10-01-15 10:34 #15106
Posts: 91I found where those 9's and 10's gone!
I agree with you %100! I been to Lviv, Kiev, Odessa and Kharkiv. Every time I visit, I feel like things in the mongering biz going down hill.
I have a Lviv trip coming up end of the month but I am not excited anymore like I used to be!
I been seeing the 18-19 year old Ukrainian and Russian skinny babes, model types at the incall set up at the 5 star hotel in Istanbul. Search thoroughly and you will find a 9 or 10! I look through the profiles at the escort news European site, then read the reviews (some reviews are fake-make sure the report is genuine before head out to the date) It is not cheap. About 200 USD an hour but it worth it when you pick the right one. There is a possibility of fake pictures %50. But, not in a bad way, I would say half of the fake Picture girls even look better then the fake pictures. Yes, when you end up with that %25 bad apples, just wak out. They will not demand Money or make a scene, since they are doing escorting at these nice hotels, they try to be on the low-low.
I talked to them and they travel from Paris to Athens, London to & Istanbul and so on every 2 weeks. When they go back to Kiev or Moscow, they are loaded with cash and they rest for a month or so and then they start travelling again for a few months.Comparing the asking price for Athens and Istanbul, 200 USD an hour girl in Istanbul is 100 Euros in Athens but I never mongered in Athens so I do not know how easy going things are in Athens.
I think this is how the 9's and 10's gone off the market in Kiev.
I would have recommend you Northern Cyprus but it would not be viable for you since you do not like Moldovan. %35-40 of the girls working at the clubs over there are Moldovan. I had one 21 years old skinny blonde for 1 hour multi-pops including motel room for 50 Euros. I cannot beat that anywhere I been to for a 7 or 8!
Originally Posted by Kirch [View Original Post]
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09-29-15 23:32 #15105
Posts: 709Originally Posted by Barba [View Original Post]
Also, just my take on Kiev. Theirs always new young hoes coming to town ready to make their fast buck. Problem is they wise up real quick to their value in the world. It's a never ending game to hunt down the new girls ready to share their pussy for cash..
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09-29-15 18:10 #15104
Posts: 29No Atmosphere
Hi all,
I long time lurker and felt the need to post my opinion since I have been there on and off 4 times a month in the hey days of 2008-2011. First thing I noticed is the strip bar, lingerie, sex shops seem to have doubled. Almost Every Taxi driver (young guys) are trying to take you to Dolls or one of the two apartment houses 1600 uah or 1200 uah and this is after you already mentioned you only need to go to Ocean Plaza IMHO it is definitely no better now for the Normal Joe as it more difficult in every way. The usual P4P clubs Avalon (disco), Vodka Bar, Decadence even SkyBar was closed. The real sign for me was the demise of Shooters (Every Ex-pats) Dream on a Sunday ladies night when at midnight the Curtains would open and a club full of already horny and drunk girls. Instead now there is no curtain and no girls, just a bar full of mostly Turkish, Mixed other nations and counted 3 girls until I left. This is not the Kiev I remember and it is quite sad. As a first time visitor now to Kiev you may wonder what all the fuss is about but unless you have been there since the start you know that now it extremely dull and lacking in any real atmosphere. A real shame and I do hope that things improve.
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09-29-15 17:08 #15103
Posts: 149Alternative to Kiev?
I've read the last posts and I totally agree that Kiev is not anymore what it used to be! For the last 5 years I've been to Kiev about 40 times.
It was great in the beginning in terms of 9 to 10's, attitude, fun and money!
I remember the times taking out from Rio 2 gorgeous girls for USD 250 each (price was always the same) but they stayed in my apartment until next day.
We had a lot of fun, drunk a lot and they did more than they normally do. Every Night I had a big problem at Rio which girl to take as there were so many 7-10's.
Now they have about 95% chubby and average girls. And if I spot a great one she either regret to come to me to the apartment or the service is bad and they want.
To leave after 2 or 3 hours.
Same with Mamba where I always had some girls for the day action. Now only spam or average chicas want money like a 10 in Moscow!
On the street the same, in the good old days almost every gorgeous girl on Kreshatic smiled to you if you smiled to them and if you asked for their number and a coffee, it worked.
Still I'm at least lucky with one girl when I'm there. But it's not worth it going there only for this! (Speaking of this, I will be in Kiev this weekend.
I'm from Germany and here the prices are very low and the quantity great but we have a Romanian overload at the FKK clubs. Not good anymore, Where have all the Russians gone?
So the big question is where to go instead?
Is Moscow and St. Petersburg good again? Was there lots of times from 1999 until 2010. But the same over there, the last years were not good anymore.
I was thinking about Minsk?
(I don't like Romanian, Bulgarian and Moldavian girls; Poland is not good; Kaschastan and Kyrgisia is too far.).
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09-29-15 14:50 #15102
Posts: 1233I travel extensively all over the world, with a lot of free time, and I can only concur. Why anyone would choose Kiev based only on poonani, escapes me.
Germany, England, Spain, Asia, Caribbean, Africa, South America. You name it.
If you are going due to work, by all means enjoy and do the best of it. But Rio rip off, half ass erotic massages and the Mamba lottery really does not justify a flight to Kiev considering what is out there waiting for your hard earned marmaca.
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09-29-15 10:51 #15101
Posts: 116Originally Posted by PeeTeePeet [View Original Post]
The fact is that it's harder and more expensive than elsewhere in Europe.
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09-29-15 10:42 #15100
Posts: 116Originally Posted by LuisVega11 [View Original Post]
Obviously, most girls should be rated even lower on their looks.
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09-29-15 10:31 #15099
Posts: 116Originally Posted by LuisVega11 [View Original Post]
This brings back my point earlier that it's better and cheaper to go mongering elsewhere, i.e. in another country.