Kyiv

[Jonathan Pine]

Sorry, I have to disagree, 100 grivna, is normal and a sign of respect. This common all over the world, you will be real unsuccessful if you do not pay for Taxis. Now 100-150 is the most you should ever pay. I am pretty hard on Ukraine women, but I am okay with paying for a taxi it is just polite and 99% you may way more then there salary.

Paying 100 grivna for taxi to some girls one's never met before is a sure way to not get laid. It's not a sign of respect, it's a sign of I'm a naive foreigner and it's open season on me. It's not only that. They'll also lose all respect on you. Local girls like "strong men."

Girls don't do this to local guys. Local guys also don't do this.

I agree with Bliss. Read his comments in another post.

[Stevie69]

I use the metro, why should I pay for a girls's taxi? If I ask her to rush, then maybe. Otherwise, she can choose how she gets here. It is the cost of doing business. Why separate the taxi? How about the shoes? Or the make-up? Or the hair? Or the nails? Or the condoms?

Sorry, I have to disagree, 100 grivna, is normal and a sign of respect. This common all over the world, you will be real unsuccessful if you do not pay for Taxis. Now 100-150 is the most you should ever pay. I am pretty hard on Ukraine women, but I am okay with paying for a taxi it is just polite and 99% you may way more then there salary.

[Stevie69]

http://gia-escort.com/ru/girl/dominika3

Well you summed my point of view.

I answer to some post behind stating from your point.

1- all the girl posted in the post are low to very low quality and still they ask a lot of money for they value. I called one that send me photo, I would not even fuck free, and she asked 1900 gryvna. Another 1500. And this girl are so fucking low quality in Kiev. I'd say 4-5. Sure in my country they could be not very bad but so if I want to fuck this kind of girl I stay in my country don't go and spend 1000 euro fixed investment plus flexible money to have 3 fuck of one hour with this kind of girl. MY POINT in fact was " don't go to Kiev for p4 p". Is totally useless if you want fuck model, you can put you need same money as anywhere in the world maybe much more.

2- under 2000 the level of P4P is low to medium, if you very luck. The s photo those posted by tomes and those you can find in Kiev-x. In clearly show that for 1000 you fuck low quality. I sometimes fuck under 1000 but is low quality I would never say they are nice, AR excellent girl. And I can say they are better than what I see in the photo gallery..

[Stevie69]

Keep in mind that the prices include 50% for the web site. So, a real independent goes for about half as much.

Hello Luis,

Which girl from Gia is a 7?

I looked at their website and girls range from 4-5 to 8-with a couple of rare 9 maybe.

That said beauty is subjective and everyone is different.

And about the GIA price. They are high for Kiev, but adjusted for quality and if I have money to throw around, and how desperate I am, I might with hesitation.

[Stevie69]

It is the start of a scam. It IS the scam. At the end of even the most modest dinner, you will be slapped with a bill large enough to fully support a family of 3 for a month. The beefy security guard will prevent you form protesting. The girl and the restaurant will share the profits of the scam.

It sounds the start of a perfect stringing along story.

Say yes, and she will think she has hit the jackpot and will come after a successful dinner at good premises with something like: "I'm a good girl, I really like you but I don't want to start anything immediately but to know you better let's meet again" (in another good place of course).

After that there will come some college fees, or hospital stuff. To see how stupid you are.

My advice: If she really says she says she is open for a long (er) term and / or serious relationship you can do the following: Agree to meet her in the place she wants, but when she's there, call or message her that you went to the ATM and your card didn't work for some stupid reason and you only have how much you like to spend. You can see her intentions. If she says "oh no worries we can still have a good dinner somewhere else for that amount" or if she says"don't worry I won't choose anything excessive" or if she says "no worries lets meet other time'.

[BlissDps]

Sorry, I have to disagree, 100 grivna, is normal and a sign of respect. This common all over the world, you will be real unsuccessful if you do not pay for Taxis. Now 100-150 is the most you should ever pay. I am pretty hard on Ukraine women, but I am okay with paying for a taxi it is just polite and 99% you may way more then there salary.

Of course it is normal and again not about the money.

However, I experienced that if a girl clearly mentions she wants to get acquainted due to the fact she is interested in a serious relationship, (even semi-pro) she will never ask for taxi-money. I always offered to pay their taxis, even walked to the taxis when she arrived to pay for the trip and they refused.

It happened sometimes that a girl on the second date just stayed in my hotel to sleep, without any sex involved, and I always give her 500 to go home as I just see it as a very very small gesture and I don't need to get laid on the second date.

I'm merely referring to the girls who are already requesting you online on E. G Tinder, Badoo, Mamba for taxi-money.

Maybe it's just me who's had bad experiences with it.

[GDreams]

Sorry, I have to disagree, 100 grivna, is normal and a sign of respect. This common all over the world, you will be real unsuccessful if you do not pay for Taxis. Now 100-150 is the most you should ever pay. I am pretty hard on Ukraine women, but I am okay with paying for a taxi it is just polite and 99% you may way more then there salary.

Rarely will a girl take a taxi unless you pay for it. They will take metro or Marshutka.

[DramaFree11]

Even if it's only 100 grivna, I suggest to everyone not to pay for a taxi in case there is no clear agreement about getting laid! Unless someone just needs a talking-partner.

It's not about the money but about the "I'm a fool-sign" that you are sending to her if you agree.

My experience when girls are asking for taxi -money without confirming to get laid, it will end with nothing in 99.9999% of the cases. They just need a free dinner and a fool who they maybe later can try some other stories on.

Just think by yourself: If a girl wants a serious relationship based on mutual respect and respects you as her boyfriend she wouldn't lower herself to ask small taxi money. She can get it easily herself. In case she can't get it herself; do you want to ever be with such kind of girl?

Even in Ukraine girls have some pride and they are smart enough that if they like you and want to get laid with you, they will first get laid and later on attack you with all kind of shit stories but for a higher amount than taxi money.

Sorry, I have to disagree, 100 grivna, is normal and a sign of respect. This common all over the world, you will be real unsuccessful if you do not pay for Taxis. Now 100-150 is the most you should ever pay. I am pretty hard on Ukraine women, but I am okay with paying for a taxi it is just polite and 99% you may way more then there salary.

[LuisVega11]

THIS THIS THIS. Tinder is a waste of time except to find semi pros. I've been here 4 months and can vouch for this. Ukrainian guys told me not to waste my time on it.

I've banged cute young semi pros from it; do not offer them more than a 1000 for 2 hours /2 pops w BBBJ.

You banged prostitutes. They have nothing to do with semi pro. Not personal but we must be clear if we want to improve as community. I send some message in fiber all ready to fuck in one hour.

Semi pros are normal girl who have a job you meet online mostly in street and after some exit they agree to have a relation sex for support. Those who ask you are in Kiev want meet at first message are prostitute.

[LuisVega11]

Please don't take it personal, but I would never fuck any of these girls.

Well you summed my point of view.

I answer to some post behind stating from your point.

1- all the girl posted in the post are low to very low quality and still they ask a lot of money for they value. I called one that send me photo, I would not even fuck free, and she asked 1900 gryvna. Another 1500. And this girl are so fucking low quality in Kiev. I'd say 4-5. Sure in my country they could be not very bad but so if I want to fuck this kind of girl I stay in my country don't go and spend 1000 euro fixed investment plus flexible money to have 3 fuck of one hour with this kind of girl. MY POINT in fact was " don't go to Kiev for p4 p". Is totally useless if you want fuck model, you can put you need same money as anywhere in the world maybe much more.

2- under 2000 the level of P4P is low to medium, if you very luck. The s photo those posted by tomes and those you can find in Kiev-x. In clearly show that for 1000 you fuck low quality. I sometimes fuck under 1000 but is low quality I would never say they are nice, AR excellent girl. And I can say they are better than what I see in the photo gallery.

3- gia start from 200 to 250 for very good quality. I'ts from 5200 to 6500 gryvna hour. 3000 not exist anywhere in gia webstiet. You can fuck for discount price some girl, the low er quality at 150 dollar, but really those I see in gia website under discount I fucked same level in Kiev and Kharkiov for free or max 1000. So Gia is as expensive as any website in London. Point. And is the only website you can be certain of photos.

4- Kiev is for fucking free girl, sure you need to invest some money, and you need game and presence. But if you understand the game you can fuck very good girl. P4P is not good at all.

5- SEMI Pro who at first message in fiber tells: " are you in Kiev " are not semi pro. Are prostitutes. Semi pro are girl who fuck for money once every 3 months. Not every day. Semi pro is what any monger going to Kiev should aim for. But as I said is very difficult if you don't have at least two of the tree diamond quality.

Any way I'd fuck the girl in apartment cause she takes in ass easily but her care of skin and aspect of into part is not the best I'd say.

[Samcik]

CherchezFemme,

Please don't take it personal, but I would never fuck any of these girls.

[BlissDps]

I've been told the same thing. Grandmother or mother's sick (so they can't meet you), need money for medical care. Unable to continue to study in university because no money for tuition, . Bla bla bla.

Move on to the next girl.

Even if it's only 100 grivna, I suggest to everyone not to pay for a taxi in case there is no clear agreement about getting laid! Unless someone just needs a talking-partner.

It's not about the money but about the "I'm a fool-sign" that you are sending to her if you agree.

My experience when girls are asking for taxi -money without confirming to get laid, it will end with nothing in 99.9999% of the cases. They just need a free dinner and a fool who they maybe later can try some other stories on.

Just think by yourself: If a girl wants a serious relationship based on mutual respect and respects you as her boyfriend she wouldn't lower herself to ask small taxi money. She can get it easily herself. In case she can't get it herself; do you want to ever be with such kind of girl?

Even in Ukraine girls have some pride and they are smart enough that if they like you and want to get laid with you, they will first get laid and later on attack you with all kind of shit stories but for a higher amount than taxi money.

[CherchezFemme]

From my photos:

Semi pro 1 is the only one available now.


She advertises a lot on Tinder.

I have not paid more than 1500 total, including taxi money. W / BBBJ.

The following are girls I was in touch with but did NOT visit. Most I was able to get 1500 including taxi w / BBBJ, others wanted more for BBBJ or didn't do it.

All are from Tinder.

Just add the number to your phone and write them on Whatsapp or Viber. They all have those messengers

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[Misc123]

Agreed Misc123! It really is good that beauty is subjective. It would be bad if we all had to chase the same girls. While I agree that Irina Shayk is very hot (probably a solid 8+ in her prime), I have never seen a picture of Anna Nicole Smith where I thought she was better than a 6.5 and in most pictures in her prime she just looks fat and I think she looks more like a 5. Lean bodies are important to me--much more so than pretty faces- and Anna Nicole Smith rarely looks lean.

And also, thanks Bliss for your fun post!

Hi Yummy. That is why I said, my 8 is your 5 and my 5 is your 8. I like voluptuous more, some of us like lean more, some like small tits, some like Big. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Ciao.

Misc.

[CherchezFemme]

. Tinder is the scum of the scum in Kiev.

THIS THIS THIS. Tinder is a waste of time except to find semi pros. I've been here 4 months and can vouch for this. Ukrainian guys told me not to waste my time on it.

I've banged cute young semi pros from it; do not offer them more than a 1000 for 2 hours /2 pops w BBBJ.