Kyiv

[Reiner Otto]

Yes I know but this is the only time I can take vacation.

Try Odessa (Arkadia) in July. But book hotel in advance, as very busy. In Itaka or Ibiza, your eyes will pop off.

Whether you score, is another story. Might need deep pockets.

But really worth a visit. Try youtube 'Arkadia Odessa'.

In case, you find a gem in Kiev, invite to a trip to Arkadia. Will be very happy about it.

[Member #4722]

Not a very good time to. Visit Kiev. 10 Sept onwards when students and others are back from holidays.

Yes I know but this is the only time I can take vacation. I'm sure there will be plenty of women to keep me happy for 10 days and i don't have crazy high standards and find most ukranian women very attractive. Even milfs and they are normally the best performers. Also may try to play the dating game a bit as I will be in town 10-14 days.

[Vitrea]

Unlike some other parts of the world, under 20 pros are fewer and far between in Western Europe. I have assumed the same about Kiev. That does seem to be true here as well but I did run into two 18 year olds. One said this is her first month. Anna is a college student, some english, 7 face but a 9 body and 10 attitude. I don't know if I mentioned in another post, but regardless, it is worth mentioning that she is multi-orgasmic and absolutely loves sex. Literally came off the bed. 1900 per hour X 2. That was two nights ago.

Early this morning I saw, Emily a redhead, who showed up at 2:30 am super shy, in a cute way. Nice ass with feminine curves. Zero english. She is also 18 and the agent said this is her first day working. Not sure if I believe that but nevertheless she is new to business but not new to sex. He he. She was horny and tight. Loved DFK and my mouth is still raw as I write this, from the 2 hours of prolonged kissing. After the first session, we had simulated sex in the shower for 10-15 minutes which was erotic. After shower, she gave me a inexpereinced 30 minute massage though you could tell that her heart was in it. She wanted to please. We had another session before she left at 4:30 am. 1600 per hour X 2.

[Jojosun]

Great to hear some positivity in this thread! July can't come soon enough!

Not a very good time to. Visit Kiev. 10 Sept onwards when students and others are back from holidays.

[Jojosun]

Have not been in a while but thinking about a trip. Here are some sites with phone numbers. I know the photos are not real and the girls that show up are less than the photos, but how much less? And is 300 500 etc. Hryvnia the real price? It's not that much.

Maybe someone in Kiev should try some of these out and see how real they are.

http://sexkiev.net/7-1/page-2

https://intimgirls.net/girls/cheap

http://relaxportal.biz/deshevye-prostitutki/

This site is still going used by agencies as well. http://www.top-modals.com/?h=mobihtt...ls.com/?h=mobi.

Any good ones are going to be around 80/100 $. This was the case back in 2009/10 and I don't think much has changed since then?

[Member #4722]

Great to hear some positivity in this thread! July can't come soon enough!

[Vitrea]

Hi Vitrea,

Glad you're enjoying Kiev. That's the importance of planning whether by yourselves before landing or assisted once you landed there. It does save a lot of time and maximizes the windows of opportunities.

As for FKK Clubs, well the disappointing news for many is the going be the Ban on BBBJ as from I St July.

Thank you Jojosun.

We are having a blast in Kiev. The highlight of my trip so far is my threesome with Paulina and Milana . Two stunners. Paulina is in a class of her own. Beautiful face with steel blue eyes, flawless skin and a phenomenal attitude. I was with her for three hours at 2000 Grivna an hour plus taxi. Once we really connected with a lot of dirty dancing, I asked if she would like a threesome. We accidentally invited 5 girls at the same time, and they promptly showed up at the same time! Sending one away was easy and we tipped her generously. The 4 that are left are all cute. We had a hard time choosing. I took that opportunity to do a threesome. Paulina said she does with very few girls and showed photos.

We invited Milana to join for a threesome. Milana is a stunner on whom I had eyes for a while now, through the agent. It was a very memorable threesome session because of the quality of the women and Paulina was genuinely horny. Milana went through the motions but I would not repeat Milana by herself or as threesome. I checked that box of Ukrainian threesome. (I hope to do one threesome in each country I monger in. Ha ha.).

The other two that stayed are Anya, beautiful 20 yr old brown hair, a solid nine but cold in bed.

I think I wrote about Yulia, a real fire cracker who speaks english. More on her later.

[Jojosun]

Bottom line is that we are three friends in our early 40's and we have never fucked this many stunners in 3 days, Including FKKs. (I have not been to Globe).

Hi Vitrea,

Glad you're enjoying Kiev. That's the importance of planning whether by yourselves before landing or assisted once you landed there. It does save a lot of time and maximizes the windows of opportunities.

As for FKK Clubs, well the disappointing news for many is the going be the Ban on BBBJ as from I St July.

[BigthDikth]

Have not been in a while but thinking about a trip. Here are some sites with phone numbers. I know the photos are not real and the girls that show up are less than the photos, but how much less? And is 300 500 etc. Hryvnia the real price? It's not that much.

Maybe someone in Kiev should try some of these out and see how real they are.

http://sexkiev.net/7-1/page-2

https://intimgirls.net/girls/cheap

http://relaxportal.biz/deshevye-prostitutki/

[Vitrea]

I presume extras are not included in the price. As I have been in about 10 of these private flats, I can confirm that you don't get a BBBJ included in the price. If the girl does it, you have to pay an extra, that is always expensive, usually 30-50% more of the first price. It also depends on the girls. So 1800 + 30 % = 2400 UAH = not far from 100 $. Half of the amount will go to the mafia, half to the girl.

Well said and reflects my experience also. Luckily for me, BBBJ is not as important. I only do BBBJ with girls I know and low risk. For me that is Colombia.

Having said that, kissing is very important for me. I won't take a girl unless she kisses and I don't mind paying extra for kissing. Paying extra is better for me because I know she is not kissing every guy she fucks as most won't pay 500 for kissing. While I am happy to. Also, if the girl is young and beautiful, I like DATY also. That is also extra which I discuss or negotiate ahead of time. I minimize negotiations ahead of time. I just stick to basics otherwise it kills the mood for me. Whatever floats ones boat and no judgements here.

Please don't post any negative replies to my posts about money. I am willing to share more names and details. Lets keep it positive and discuss what is good and currently working in Kiev and leave out what used to be good and is not so good now.

[Volpone]

I have mongered at more destinations than most people on this thread and I can tell you that service level has been fantastic from 80% of Apartment girls. We had more than 10 so far and only three were bad with cold fish attitude. You let the guide know that in first 10 minutes a replacement showed up in 30 minutes without extra charge for girl or taxi. It was as simple as that. Average good apartment girl is 1800. Range is 1500 to 2600. One girl, Margarita asked for 3500 and she is a 10.

I presume extras are not included in the price. As I have been in about 10 of these private flats, I can confirm that you don't get a BBBJ included in the price. If the girl does it, you have to pay an extra, that is always expensive, usually 30-50% more of the first price. It also depends on the girls. So 1800 + 30 % = 2400 UAH = not far from 100 $. Half of the amount will go to the mafia, half to the girl.

The great thing in Kiev was that the Non-pros from Mamba could get the whole amount, nothing went to the mafia. That was the real challenge in Kiev, just to help a non pros, a single mother, a student, that need some money and so she could get the whole amount. I use the past, because it's hard to get a Non-pros on Mamba now, that way of helping girls has nearly disappeared.

[Vitrea]

Best and most popular place to pick up hot girls and models nowadays is CHI by Decadence but be ready to pay at least 200 $.

Thank you the reminder. We are waiting for the start of the weekend. We will hit Chi today.

BTW, a good guide will help you with other things.

He arranged our day trips. Arranged taxis. Helped with groceries, money change, Went and drove a soviet tank, Shot machine guns at a range. We can't do this without a guide. I wish every city I do short term mongering had a guide like this.

I am not pushing a guide by no means. Most of you may not need. I am telling to what worked for me. I have Zero Russian and no past local contacts and I don't have luxury of time. I want to do three sessions a day and also want do day time activities.

I have not posted about a cool daytime activity we are doing. I will post if all goes well. Ha ha.

[Vitrea]

I personally don't like to visit apartments in Kiev because no matter how hot is the girl service always shitty. But if anyone would like to give a shot just walk on Khreshatik street near Arena and random guys will approach you with invitation to check the apartments or simply will hand you the business cards. You can also ask the taxi drivers most of them know many apartments because they get commissions from them also.

I agree that this is true for most but it all depends on the guide. We are having the time of our lives. Our guide is just phenomenal. This is still low season, the selections are fewer but the quality is there.

I have mongered at more destinations than most people on this thread and I can tell you that service level has been fantastic from 80% of Apartment girls. We had more than 10 so far and only three were bad with cold fish attitude. You let the guide know that in first 10 minutes a replacement showed up in 30 minutes without extra charge for girl or taxi. It was as simple as that. Average good apartment girl is 1800. Range is 1500 to 2600. One girl, Margarita asked for 3500 and she is a 10.

Bottom line is that we are three friends in our early 40's and we have never fucked this many stunners in 3 days, Including FKKs. (I have not been to Globe).

[DreamHoliday]

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[Samcik]

I personally don't like to visit apartments in Kiev because no matter how hot is the girl service always shitty. But if anyone would like to give a shot just walk on Khreshatik street near Arena and random guys will approach you with invitation to check the apartments or simply will hand you the business cards. You can also ask the taxi drivers most of them know many apartments because they get commissions from them also. My only advice just be careful and don't get robbed. Best and most popular place to pick up hot girls and models nowadays is CHI by Decadence but be ready to pay at least 200 $.