Kyiv

[Ludovico]

I've just been thinking about which candidate would be better for the foreign monger interested in the Ukraine. Will it be the liberal pro European or the old guard with an eye on the Kremlin. Personally, I think they should stay with the old guard (selfish I know), but it will keep all those want to be mongers away who can't get visa's and leave the cream of the crop for the more advanced players.

I don't think, however, that the Ukrainian people will see it this way and will probably vote for the pro EU, WTO and NATO minded candidate. For a country that is growing at 9% gdp a year, all those people living in poverty probably want a slice of the pie for themselves.

[Vegamars]

I can tell you for sure that she'll not meet anyone and just take advantage of the free phone card....

[Doctor_Skank]

MM:

"Does she mean that a 250 or 500 hrivna telephone card
will distinguish that she'll fuck a guy for $50 or $100, but
if a local Ukrainian monger only has a $10 or $25 phone
card, then she wont fuck him?"

That's what I want to know! If so, I'll start hanging that 500 hrivna Dzhins card around my fu%&ing neck!

[Doctor_Skank]

Browsing through the net seeking e-contacts to non-pros to prepare for an upcoming trip to Candyland (thanks MM for this metaphor, it has stuck) I stumbled across Katerina, who sent me this:

"Я очень сексуальная девушка и апетитная
знаю, что многих я заинтересую, но часто мне пишут чуть ли не бродяги.
Паймите - я ж не сплю с всема подряд, а только з богатими и обраними мужикамы.
потому, если ви хочете со мной что то еметь. пришлите мне 14 значный код карточки ДЖИНС и свой номер телефону и я вам передзвоню.
Мне нужна реальная встреча. а не теревени в нети.
И дело не в карточке, просто так я определяю ваше фынансовое состояние. А номинал карточки говорит про ваше фынансовоэ положениэ. Я ище раз повторяю я не для всех встречних. а толька для обраних.
Все письма з инными условиямы буду игнорирувать "

Which translates roughly as this (excuse my errors fluent Russian speakers):

"I very sexual and appetizing girl and know that many guys are interested in me and many will write to me, but they are mostly jerks.
I do not sleep with everybody, just with classy guys.
Therefore if you want to meet me, please send me the 14 digit code of your Jeans (telephone) card and I will contact you. A real meeting is necessary for me, as oppposd to an encounter in the net.
There is no "business" in knowing the card number, it is simply to define a financial condition... and the face value of the card tells of your financial status. I repeat that I don't have time to meet everybody, only for classy guys. "

Well obviously there is something not very kosher about it, but I am curious if anybody out there has ever contacted a girl through such a method. Is it merely some telephone scam, or actually a front to meet pros? Did you wake up the next morning missing a kidney and having one of your eyes replaced by a glass marble?

The girl had a sexy picture, but it has since been removed from the net by the web moderator.

[Vegamars]

You just call the right number and talk decently..that's all...

There's also the free way for the regular babes like loveme.ru or simply the messenger, which have been tested so many times in a direct way with ease by smart mongerers..

[Vegamars]

It's never a good idea to order a girl without having seen at least the pictures and attributes on internet..

I'm sure gia din't want to send the girl cause they didn't feel confident about talking on the phone.. and the rest was just a story..

I've never had any problems with them and they were always ready to send any girl in just half an hour.

However, the first time you talk on the phone is quite important in the way you approach. Maybe it's just better to contact via mail beforehand..

[Peter Pan 2]

Hello,

After a trip to Moscow and St Petersburg last year I am now heading for Kiev in the spring of next year. Was looking for the VIP gateway agency described here in this forum for local services which includes finding girls and women. They seem to have stopped. Anybody have any suggestions for a similar agency that can help me not only with apartment and car but also with finding the right girls and translating? Any suggestions much appreciated.

PP2

[Duke Pro Sex]

My advice is dont phone to english magazines anouncements in Kiev.

I have done it 3 times, all of them bad, they promiss to send you a girl acording with your description and they send you what they want.

In my last trip, first night they sent me a very thin girl, not very clean (she told m she was dancing at a disco), price was 50 one hour, oral with rubber, and 100 two hours, I told them 100 dollars 2 hours and oral without and they acepted. The girl was mistaken with the adress and it took more than 2 hours to arrive.

Three days after it I phoned the same telephone, I asked for a 30ish girl, and oral without, they told me 120 dollars, and promissed me the girl will come in 30 mins. She arrived in a bit more than one hour and, was the same thing girl that 3 days ago was 25. I told her that that was not what we talked by phone and offered her 50 hrivnas for taxi, she insisted in stay, and I told her that ok but just 100 dollars like 3 days ago, finally she acepted. I payed her 120 and I told her: take 120 I can be good but I am not idiot

The other experience I had some months ago with what's on and Kiev post anouncement was also really bad bad bad.

Now you can ask, why if you talk well about GIA you didint phone them?

I phoned GIA the second night, they asked me what girl I want, I told her, and when I told her my apartament adress the girl answered me that it is impossible to send a girl cause the center is full of police and the girl can have problems and me too with them. I insisted but no way.

Has anybody had experience with the girls of uaescort? some of them look really incredible pretty. I tryed also to phone to one of them (I know it was an agency) but there was no answer. Dont they work after 11 pm? I am never free at my apartament before this time.

[Stravinsky]

MM,

So the Mouse will be scampering through Kiev! That's a long way from BA. Sorry I can't help you with info, since I've never been there. If there are chicas to be had, I'm sure you will sniff them out. Looking forward to your posts.

Stravinsky

[SexyMiky]

Arrived Borispol October 13 , cleared costumes with no problem taxi was waiting form me took me to my apartment that I rented from uuapartments dimitri was waiting for me he took the money and left.

I only had two free days to monger until my date arrived from Russia, my apartment was small but at a great location on Horodetskoho Street, Kreschatyk and the Maidan.

For those who want to call back home get the Extreme telephone card it works great costs approximately 0.37 cents per minute to call USA.

First night took a taxi to the Queen bee strip club and sauna , its a 20 minutes ride from the maidan and costed me 20 Grivna, its a two storry building very clean in and out looks as good as our clubs in Los Angeles

I had lots of lap dances for 10 Grivna, the girls dancing are 7 in my book, i asked the girl about the extras she said the Sauna is 150 Grivna and $50 US for the girl, i chose a blond blue eyed girl that was great performer i got the best sex from her while doing her she screamed in Russian boyaje means GOD, while doing her she said DAVAY DAVAY don't Stop while laying on her back she had multiple orgasm and she kept raising her head up high, will report about my second day in River Palace and the Caribbean.

[NeilSydney]

MM,

I was just living around the corner on Saksahanskoho. There are so many restaurants on that street you will have plenty of choices. And Opium night club is nice and close, at the end of the street near the Palace of Sports. Cocktail Bar 111 is also close, towards the other end of Saksahanskoho. John Bull is nice and close, but for that type of pub, I prefer going to Mikhailovskaya where you will find O'Brien's. Plenty of English speakers there. I found in Kiev you could find friendly locals to talk to pretty much everywhere. Its just a matter of going to talk to them and seeing if they spoke English. Some nice but pricey cafes in the Maidan underground shopping centre region. Anyway, more on restaurants can be found at www.chicken.kiev.ua/eng/

Oh, and literally in the last 3 weeks I was in Budapest - Kiev - Minsk, in that order. They are all unique in their own right. My view: Budapest is the most tourist attractive, Kiev is the most fun, Minsk is not for the first-time traveller; but man, is it cheap!

[Mickey Mouse]

Gentlemen:
I will be making a brief visit to Kiev next week for a few days and have an appartment on Volodymyrska near XXI vek Casino and John Bull Pub. I would Greatly appreciate any suggestions you may have concerning local Pubs/Bars/Restaurants where I may find a fellow monger or some local talent.

Thanx in advance and please feel free to PM,
MM

[Eddie123]

Hey man,

I just wanted to reply back to you in regards to the "money on the floor" issue. The same thing happened to me the first time I went to Moscow about a year ago. Near the Kremlin, one dude walked passed me under one of the tunnels and dropped a bag with dollars in it (it seemed). I just kept walking but suddenly another guy appeared out of nowhere and grabbed the bag and acted like he was happy about finding it. I knew that it was some kind of set up so I kept walking. However, that one guy would not leave me alone so I came up near a very busy street and mentioned "Militza" and he and his friend left. Nevertheless, I freaked out and headed back to my hotel. This is probably the only sour experience I had in Moscow and don't want to run into it again. I am taking a break from Russia for now.

Kiev specially the center is a very european City, with a special flavour that makes it be one of the most lovely cityes i have ever visited. For me Kreschatik and Independence square is one of the most beautiful streets in the world Kiev sorroundings are much more soviet style, big ugly buildings typycal soviet urbanism. But Kiev is over all a very alive city. I was there firt time in 2001, and in 3 years I have visited it about ten times, each one you see changes everywhere, more shops, more modern cars. In my first trips was full of old Ladas and staying close to roads and showing your hand any car stopped to make independent taxi services at low cost, now it is almost the same but you need to wait much more and each day you see less old ladas.

About Chernobil, although the radiation level of Kiev is under danger levels, it is much higher than in other european towns. When the weather is hot without air movement I use to feel problems in my throat and also feel sleepy and everybody tell me is cause of radiation, not dangerous but much higher level to the ones we are used to live with in western europe.

People have been allways nice with me everywhere in Kiev, but ADVICE for tourists, if you watch money in the floor NEVER take it, and if a guy takes it in front of you and offers you halkf of the money, smile to him and tell him NO, or you will be in serious troubles. Three times someone tryed to do this with me

[Roger Mellie]

Budapest Paris and Minsk? I want to know what pills youre taking.

[NeilSydney]

Well, I just got back from my second trip to Kiev. Some brief comments follow, hopefully some of which may be slightly useful.

I arrived after flying AeroSvit from Budapest to Kiev. This airline is very good value. Reliable planes and good prices from many European destinations. Have no fears flying with these guys.

I took an apartment with www.uaapartments.com having read many glowing reviews from people. I would definitely NOT recommend them after my experience, but I will just provide the facts of my experience and let you decide for yourself. I took an apartment which they recommended more than once to me. It had big, but had old furniture and facilities, an ancient washing machine, cable Tv which did not work (which they refused to help me with). Disgracefully, less than 50% of the lights in the apartment worked, to the extent that there were no functioning lights in the bedroom. The website promises a lot but they deliver little. E.g. Promised maid service after 3 days - this was not delivered. Their service is great prior to arrival but once they get your money, forget about it. And to wrap it up, I left my phone in the apartment and they refuse to search for it and give it back to me. I'm sure its been sold, or reused in the company (look for a snazzy Samsung E700 if you hire a phone from them- its mine!) I know many people have had good experiences with them, but this was my experience and I would not go with them again. I met a lovely girl in Kiev who does her own apartment rentals and I will go with her in future. If anyone is interested I can provide contact details. I can vouch for her honesty, but not for her apartments, yet.

Anyway, I'm pissed off, so sorry about that rambling. Onto the good stuff - upon arrival I felt like some pre-dinner fun, so I called GIA Agency and asked for my 'usual', a lovely girl called Larissa. $70 for an hour, including bbbj cim twice, and anal included too. I think she charges more for anal normally, but I am a 'regular' apparently. Highly recommended.

I had two experience in my trip at River Palace. One terrible one from a single mum called Irina, reddish brown hair, thin, pale, hangs around with a dark haired friend. I also had a great experience on 'ladies night' - Tuesday night where ladies get in free. Problem is that there are HEAPS of men too, so you have to be decisive in getting your girl. I snapped up 18 year old amateur Diana, dresseed in jeans and long sleeve shirt, very conservatively.She was a short petite brunette who was there for her first time with friends. I didnt believe her, but $100 dollars later, I had the best GFE I've had at River Palace. Look out for her.

I managed to pick up a gorgeous young girl at Mandarin shopping centre, near Bessarabskya Pl. But it was costly. I saw her buying some cosmetics, or looking at some anyway. She was gorgeous and I just couldnt resist going to talk to her. She told me in perfect English she couldnt afford to buy it. $200 dollars later, after buying her gifts and taking her to Il Patio nearby for dinner, she's back in my shoddy apartment in my lightless bedroom giving me that 19 year old body. The surprise was she told me I didnt need to use a condom if I didnt want to "because that is what her other Western boyfriends want". Well, that gave me better incentive to wear protection, and turns out she has 2 American boyfriends out there who visit and pay her sponsorship money. Seems like a very common thing to me in this country. It seems to be a country getting richer and richer, and there are some very wealthy beautiful women that just don't give a crap about us foreigners, as their ukrainian (possibly mafia) boyfriends could probably buy far more than most of us can.

Anyway, so that was Kiev for me. Great nightclubs as per usual, great girls....and I wish I knew Russian. Oh, and Halloween is an awesome time to be there. They take it as a huge party. Opium club had a huge party - so many hotties! HAVE FUN!