Kyiv

[Curious12]

I spend one week in Kiev at the end of June. When you arrive at the airport, immediately after you exit the customs area you will be attacked by numerous taxi drivers. Luckily I had a person waiting for me but that was really annoying.

Apartment was not a problem, one bedroom can easily be found for $50-60, it has everything you need. The most important thing is alternate hot water supply because many areas are without hot water in the summer and it could be a problem. I tried couple dating sites but it wasn't going anywhere so I just decided to go to RP. I had been there before and I like that place. Because of the World Cup I was coming there around 10 p.m. and watched the game in the sports bar downstairs and then was going to the second floor. Many working girls were at the sports bar but I never talked to them there because I knew that selection upstairs would be much better.

There was always a lot of girls and selection was not a problem. Almost everyone started from $300 but I never paid more than $200. Once it was for an hour, because I really liked the girl but mostly it was for 2-3 hours or for the rest of the night. Some girls refused to charge less than $300 even at 4 a.m., they simply prefered to go home. I couldn't figure it out. Isn't it better to get $200 than to leave without nothing ? What I liked is that almost all girls can speak pretty good English and communication was not a problem.

The entrance fee actually went up while I was in Ukraine. It used to be 50 gr ($10), it became 60 gr ($12) for the weekend. Other things are still the same - Monday is free if you go on the weekend, lottery on Sunday at 2 a.m. etc.

The only other place I went ot was Arena but I just went with a friend, wasn't looking for any working girls. The entrance there is 100 gr ($20) and drinks were more expensive than RP.

Taxi is still a rip off. They charge at least 100 gr ($20) if you take it from RP. One girl gave me a helpful tip. You can actually call a special taxi service (phone # 059) and it will only cost 15 gr ($3) to get to Kreshatik from RP. You need to speak Russian to call that service so you need to ask the girl to call.

[Curious12]

I am trying to figure out what to expect from the quality at River Palce. Using the girls at Gia agency (seems to be the most popular) as a measuring stick. Lets say the Gia escorts are on the 6-8 scale. What can a mongerer expect to find at River Palace? What is the perecentage that is 8 or higher?

Thanks

From 7 to 10. I would say 60 % is 8 or higher. And the price will be higher as well. For best selection come around midnight. Personally I prefer RP because you can talk to many different girls and choose the best one. What I don't like about RP is that lately almost everyone is only doing CBJ. I see that several GIA girls are offering BBBJ. Other things to consider is entrance fee, cost of taxi, drinks. There was one girl two weeks ago that only wanted to leave after she had a few drinks.

[Bruce52]

I have not used any of Gia's girls, but based on their pictures, they are not exceptional by Ukrainian standards. The number and especially the percentage of really good-looking girls and women in Kiev far exceed what you would expect in the U.S., even in New York City, where I live. I was just astonished, and I've been to plenty of places all around the world. I can't recall ever seeing so many model-quality Caucasian women in one place. And they are reasonably receptive when approached.

Bruce

[Cruiser D]

For all you guys looking for a guided p4p tour of sorts - or some American style service. A friend of mine is starting up an apartment rental agency. I have absolutely no stake or interests in this venture. He is just a good honest friend of mine who helped show me around Kiev when I was still new to it all.

I figure there are a lot of guys out there looking for curb to curb service. If anyone is interested pm me and I'll send you his contact information.

Lego - the girls at GIA as far as looks go are average at best.

[Lego Maniac]

I am trying to figure out what to expect from the quality at River Palce. Using the girls at Gia agency (seems to be the most popular) as a measuring stick. Lets say the Gia escorts are on the 6-8 scale. What can a mongerer expect to find at River Palace? What is the perecentage that is 8 or higher?
Thanks

[Duke Pro Sex]

[QUOTE=Lorenzo Rome]Does anyone know Rus Hotel in Kiev?

I will be there for a night. Are there pros in hotel?

Rus hotel is a good "soviet style" hotel, small rooms, not very confortable, quality/price is bad. I was two or three years ago, in the evening there was inside about 5 pros in the cafe, not good quality, they didint look as pros, but was clear they were loking for paycompany. As far as I know they have very expensive price and not good service.
Better phone to GIA , ask for a girl, wait for her in the cafe, take something together and then enjoy in your room with her.

[Bruce52]

I just returned from Kiev, where I spent the July 4 holiday weekend. I arrived Saturday morning and left Tuesday afternoon, using an award ticket on Delta's new nonstops between JFK and Borispol Airport in Kiev.

My too-brief visit was essentially perfect, mostly because I had the good sense to make my arrangements through Alex (ukrorloff@mail.ru), who has been recommended by others on this board. Alex is a real pro, 34 years old, speaks perfect English (but happy for tiny hints to improve it), totally knowledgeable about everything in Kiev (and beyond, too), has his own vehicle, knows where to find girls and has a terrific style. He's a good guide and friend. I had a great time with him and recommend him without any qualifications at all.

Alex met me at the airport and helped me select an apartment, which we had rented withoin about an hour of landing. I took a nap, and he met me a few hours later. After a lot of excellent sightseeing by car, I got down to mongering. Alex and I strolled all the right places but without much luck. We ended up at River Palace, where I quickly spotted two girls come in and grabbed them immediately. I liked the appearance of one, but her friend was actually much friendler and semed to speak better English, so I took her back to my apartment for a great 2 or 3 hours. Her name is Tanya, she's 27 and a music teacher. Blonde, reasonably thin. Quite uninhibited.

The next day we did heavy-duty sightseeing. In the evening, we met a couple of girls strolling and took them to dinner. I enjoyed one in particular and got to know her pretty well socially but not sexually. Too bad. Nice girl, good job, very attractive. I ended up with a semipro, age 19, brunette, fabulous body. Shorted me a bit on time, but no real complaint.

The next night, I met my friend from the previous day and spent some time with her but without the desired conclusion. Oh, well. Maybe next time! I decided to turn in early and flew back the next morning (today).

Kiev is a beautiful, interesting place, and with the right guide, you can have quite a good time in just a few days. But I'll be back.

Bruce

[Lorenzo Rome]

Does anyone know Rus Hotel in Kiev?

I will be there for a night. Are there pros in hotel?

Thanks

Lorenzo

[Odessa Man]

A regular client of mine recently booked a return Aerosvit flight between Odessa and Kiev for himself and his girlfriend. Cost for both tickets approx $400. However, if the Travel Agent was well informed he would have offered him tickets with the new operator for half the price.

Flight tickets for the Kiev-Odessa route have soared in price during the past 12 months. Aerosvit used to have a $35 each way ticket that was readily available if you booked 5 days in advance. Although technically they still have cheaper seats, these are virtually impossible to purchase as the price quoted is invariably $100 each way regardless of when you book.

The new service between Kiev and Odessa is operated by Donbas Aero. I have had no problem getting tickets the day before travel for $50 each way. A saving of $100 for the round trip. It is worth noting that there is another advantage of using this service. Flights are to Juliani, Kiev's second airport located on the outskirts of town. The taxi fare to the center is a mere 20 Hrivnas. Not the $20 charged from Borispil.

For those travelling to Odessa check out my advert in the Classifieds for great deals on apartments.

[Schluckerl]

Please don't go to Dnipro Hotel, this is bad joke. Only **stars, but in internet they wrote ****stars. When you want stay 30 min. By desk for Credit Card Bill, or when you want bad service. Then book Dnipro Hotel.

[Cruiser D]

Kiev and Ukraine are nothing like bribe happy Russia. You won't be hassled and if you are just give them a little attitude and they will back off.

The advantages of staying in a apartment vs hotel far outweigh unlimited fluffy towels. Safety is not an issue. I don't think the word concierge is in the Ukrainian dictionary yet. And I've never heard of an apartment agency missing a pick up at the airport.

If you'd like I can pm you with some more information.

I noticed that the Radison has opened up a hotel in Kiev. I will be making my first trip to Kiev starting July 25 and was wondering if anyone knew if the Radison was date friendly. Otherwise I am thinking Hotel Dnipro. As it is my first trip I prefer a hotel (room service, concierge, safety, etc.) to an apartment despite the savings. Any info would be greatly appreciated. I promise daily good reports during the trip.

[Lego Maniac]

I noticed that the Radison has opened up a hotel in Kiev. I will be making my first trip to Kiev starting July 25 and was wondering if anyone knew if the Radison was date friendly. Otherwise I am thinking Hotel Dnipro. As it is my first trip I prefer a hotel (room service, concierge, safety, etc.) to an apartment despite the savings. Any info would be greatly appreciated. I promise daily good reports during the trip.

[CA Traveler]

Just to echo Uke's comments about the common areas... This is indeed a problem throughout the FSU and no matter how nice the apartment, the entrance and hallways and courtyard can be terrible. I've never had a problem in any of them, but to a first-time visitor it can be shocking.

For instance, even though it is Zhack's responsibility, we many times will replace a light bulb in common stairways, only to go back the next day to find that the working bulb has been changed with a totally different non-operational light bulb. With this in mind, it should be expected that the rest of the building is rundown.

The only way around this situation is to own and control the entire building which is what we've done in Odessa with our new apartment complex. Of course, for the next few weeks, even we are still completing a few projects in the building which can keep our entrance a bit messy with the construction in progress... at least it is not noisy.

[Ffmbud]

i've received numerous requests for [CodeWord901]'s contact nbr. send me a pm if you want it.

yes she is a nice companion who can spend the whole day with you if you wish without losing interest and good conversationalist. you won't be embarrassed being in her company in public.

highly recommend for social and pleasure.

[Cruiser D]

Living in Kiev isn't too expensive if you live on the left bank. However if you want to live a NYC lifestyle it can cost as much as being in NYC.

Long time Kiev travelers like Uke can give better insight on this. But since I've been travel to Kiev the grv - dollar exchange rate has pretty much remained the same. Around 5.5-5.0

Funny how the report seems to miss the real reason for skyrocketing costs in Kiev and Moscow - corruption, price fixing and government patronage monopolies as the countries become (cough,cough) more democratic.

The ruling elite of these two former Soviet countries have gone from oppressing via political and economic means to just oppression via economic - sounds like a recipe for success. Wake me when the real revolution starts. I doubt there are going to be German sound trucks playing pop tunes on Khreshatyck this time.