Kyiv

[Dan11]

Hi All,

I will be sharing a lot soon, after having travelled all over Eastern Europe for the last couple of years. I now wonder what hotels in Kiev offer the prettiest girls? I checked hotel RUS a couple of weeks agp, and wasnt sure if the girls there were pro's, and was too drunk to ask

Well, will check again next week, anyone needs a wingman?

BS, PM me, so we can catch up in Moldova this weekend

Danny

[Uke Boy]

Bez, if you do not have a computer and no internet link, there is no way you will know about Gia here other than, perhaps, word of mouth.

They do not advertise or promote themselves anywhere else. For all the time that I have been here, I have never seen them do any promotion outside the net.

Bandit and Volpone. I did not intend to promote the agencies in the Kiev Post but rather a simple warning that things can change here quickly and you can lose sources of information if you are not prepared. If you read the postings in this forum, more than a few mongers have used the Kiev Post (and What's On) as their major source, naively, of English speaking ladies. That the services are mostly crap and they lie about everything is another story. I tried these agencies years ago and they were as horrible then as they still seem to be now.

Service is a word that does not exist in the vocabulary here for most businesses and the sex business is no exception.

These Kiev Post agencies also promote their wares in the local free promotions such as Rio. The only difference is that while the the ladies are the same, the prices are cheaper since this is read mostly by and for locals.

With River Palace, that is another story. What you see is what you get although here, too, quality of what comes later, in bed, also varies widely.

By the way, this $50 charge of RP ladies to locals is nonsense. Unlike Gia which has a two level price structure, the ladies at RP have one charge for all, locals and foreigners.

[Tremayne]

Tuesday night at RP is Ladies Night which means they get in free all night plus a ticket for a 1000 Grivnas lottery. If they have visited RP on a weekend night and produce the ticket they also get in free on Monday nights. Wednesday night is free if they check in before 23.00 pm. This means that the best nights for hunting are Monday through to Wednesday, as for letting the local guys in free as well it doesn't happen. Most of the WG's at RP I've met prefer West European guys or Russian businessmen and as for $50 a trick I figure you got more chance at the Railway Station.

One move I made at RP which worked was to target one of the lottery winners who I figured was probably feeling good as she had won the 1000 Grivnas (Around $200) and might be a little more generous with her time. Sure enough she stayed with me from 03.00am until midday for $100.

I just thought I would respond to uke boys report about demonstations about Kiev post (sex adverts).

Who really cares whether Kiev post loses the adverts and the agencies close down!They operate at the bottom end of the market and more than often have a service to match. You ring thier telephone number the manager is rude, abrupt, decietful. You ask for a service, they say ok, and then when she arrives at your appartment or hotel she doesn't have a clue!

When I was there last month I called one out of the post, Vice Kiev (formerly Vice Sisters). 50$ for the hour. Twenty minutes later telephone went and could I go down stairs. So down four floors I go and, on the road out she gets from a taxi and snapps 287grivna. I say "ok" and turn round to go up to my apartment, and she say "you pay me now!" She did not even have the money to pay the taxi! I wont bore you with the details of the hour only to say I would have had more enjoyment crumpling my USD and setting fire to it!

Gia does not advertise in Kiev Post but Kiev Beauties does, along with 2-3 other that have multipule adverts with different telephone numbers. If you use Kiev Beauties, ring the number in the post and what's on magizine and you will pay 100$ per hour and 50$ for second hour. The girls are ok, but none do anal or blow job without! They do not advertise themselves as Kiev Beauties, but they are! If you use the web or ask for a particular girl they will charge you web prices up to 300$ for two hours, so if you didn't find oil in you back yard before you left home I would not bother them!

Gia is the top agency. Their web pages are excellent and you can pick what you want from the menu and the girls will deliver with enthusiam.

In my experience standard agency pratice is to split the fee on a 60/40 basis with the girl taking 40%, so in the case of Vice Kiev she will be on 20$ for the hour and she will have to pay her transport to and from your out of the 20$. You can see why the girls are so indifferent and don't give shit! These agencys that advertise in Kiev Post don't offer us any value, they don't provide the girls with enough of a cut to make them happy and honestly they want to be avoided!

I would rather go River Palace where the girls are free agents and the price varies with the time of night! Last time I got one at 0630 in the morning for 100$ two hours including cim and kissing etc and she left happy. You get yourself a friendly one and she will come to you what time you like and leave when you want them to go! I would estimate that a decent girl at RPs maybe a 8 is earning somewhere between 2000$to4000$ a month! See the difference? There are numerous possibilities if you put your self about in Kiev, many ordinary girls will oblige for a small reward and they go home happy. We don' have to support agencies like Vice Kiev which has to be close to white sex slavery!

Enough of a rant now. Any body in Kiev feb 06 (more than likely middle of the month) who fancys a night outm please pm me. When I was there last I was talking to a Brit who told me they let the locals in (girls) Tuesday, so I said to Natali next time I am in Kiev we will go! She replys as fast lightining, I don't like RP on Tuesdays, which means the 200$ tricks are not plentiful. I was also told that they let the local men in and the girls charge 50$ to them but more for us!

Anybody with any tales to tell about Tuesday nights at RP please post them. So please ladsm do not disturb me about Kiev Post, but I will man the baricades if those students are outside River Palace.

Bandit7

[Bez Bezarra]

I think I asked this before, but if you don't have a computer,
how do you call Gia?

[Alphamale]

Hello all,

I will tell you about a little incident I had last month while in Kiev.

I finally decided to try another escort company other than Kiev beauties or Gia and decided to ring Vice ecsort(vice sisters) from their number in Kiev Post.

Spoke to the girl who spoke relatively good English and she told me the prices were 60USD for the hour and 30 dollars per hour after that. She said I could come to their place which is somehwere in the center but it was late and I could not be bothered searching all over Kiev in the dead of night for a shag.

She asked what type of girl I wanted and I said blonde and young (did'nt really care as long as she was good looking). I was then told a bit over an hour someone would be there.I was watching out my apartment about 90 minutes later being the impatient type that I am and see a car trying to decide whether to come into my courtyard from the street or not and I thought that that must be it. While they were dithering a police car rolled past in the opposite direction or which I thought nothing of. The escort car then drove in and as i was about to get up I notice the cop car come back and park out the front and two cops get out and start walking into the courtyard.

My paranioa levels rose just slightly and then the girl from the office rang to say that they were there and that I could go downstairs. I told her no way as i had seen some police going in behind them. She said no it must be a coincidence and said that she would ring them and then ring me back. She rang back about 10 minutes later and said no problem that the police were gone. I checked out the front wondow and the police car was gone but i was still a little dubious. Thinking with more my little head than my big I wandered downstairs and went out the security door and saw the car about 30 meters away with its lights on but I could also see two cops crouched behind the garbage skip.

Fuck me I thought and just kept walking around through the archway and down the street. In the meantime before I had walked out of the courtyard the escort car was honking its horn trying to get my attention, I just acted as if i did not know it and kept going. As I entered the street i could see the cop car parked way down from where my apartment was, the sneaky buggers, and i made it about 150 meters before one of the cops caught up to me.

He was telling me in his non existant English for me to come back up to the courtyard and walked me past the escort car from a glance i could see one male driving and 3 girls in the passanger seats.

They asked for my passport which was obviously upstairs in the apartment but unfortunately stashed with all of my cash so i had no wish to show them where it was. They kept saying in pigeon English "prostitute, Illegal" and kept saying no, not me and that I was off to Arena for some dancing..

They acted dubious but eventually let me go back up to my apartment.

In conclusion I don't think it was a sting operation or a scam, I mean they let me go and did not ask for any money in the end of which I was expecting. If I had of gone to the car and looked at the girls I am sure I would have been fucked. I think that the escort driver was just unlucky that the cop car went past at the wrong time while he was looking indecisive and saw all the girls in the car. But to I have to say that once they were busted it was obvious to me with the cooperation of Vice escort and the driver that I then became the target of the cops and they were cooperating with the police wholeheartedly. I don't expect much more from them as I would try to cover my ass to.

Oh well you live and learn

[Volpone]

I agree with you Bandit7 about that not nice woman on the phone when you ask for an escort.
You have 1 chance up to 2 to be connected with that woman and she is usually quite rude and sometimes she will treat you of bastard if there is just a little something wrong.

For ex. Last year, I called one number of WHAT'S ON and she told me that a girl would come to my apartment 20 minutes later.
But one hour later nobody was there and I decided to call her again and she told me that I was a bastard because the girl was coming and I had tried to pay less. The reality was that no girl had come. She knew that a bit later, because she called the girl, but she didn't make some excuses to me. I agree to get another girl and I got her about 2 hours after my first calling.....
It was great sex, I just take my time, I could lick her pussy during 20 minutes . The girl was a real beauty, 19 years old.

It's a kind of hit or miss and many times you will get something in the middle. What is interesting with these kind of escorts, is that you can get some 18-21 years old students and they are not so fond of sex, but who cares. If you can lick her pussy and take your time....

[Bandit7]

I just thought I would respond to uke boys report about demonstations about Kiev post (sex adverts).

Who really cares whether Kiev post loses the adverts and the agencies close down!They operate at the bottom end of the market and more than often have a service to match. You ring thier telephone number the manager is rude, abrupt, decietful. You ask for a service, they say ok, and then when she arrives at your appartment or hotel she doesn't have a clue!

When I was there last month I called one out of the post, Vice Kiev (formerly Vice Sisters). 50$ for the hour. Twenty minutes later telephone went and could I go down stairs. So down four floors I go and, on the road out she gets from a taxi and snapps 287grivna. I say "ok" and turn round to go up to my apartment, and she say "you pay me now!" She did not even have the money to pay the taxi! I wont bore you with the details of the hour only to say I would have had more enjoyment crumpling my USD and setting fire to it!

Gia does not advertise in Kiev Post but Kiev Beauties does, along with 2-3 other that have multipule adverts with different telephone numbers. If you use Kiev Beauties, ring the number in the post and what's on magizine and you will pay 100$ per hour and 50$ for second hour. The girls are ok, but none do anal or blow job without! They do not advertise themselves as Kiev Beauties, but they are! If you use the web or ask for a particular girl they will charge you web prices up to 300$ for two hours, so if you didn't find oil in you back yard before you left home I would not bother them!

Gia is the top agency. Their web pages are excellent and you can pick what you want from the menu and the girls will deliver with enthusiam.

In my experience standard agency pratice is to split the fee on a 60/40 basis with the girl taking 40%, so in the case of Vice Kiev she will be on 20$ for the hour and she will have to pay her transport to and from your out of the 20$. You can see why the girls are so indifferent and don't give shit! These agencys that advertise in Kiev Post don't offer us any value, they don't provide the girls with enough of a cut to make them happy and honestly they want to be avoided!

I would rather go River Palace where the girls are free agents and the price varies with the time of night! Last time I got one at 0630 in the morning for 100$ two hours including cim and kissing etc and she left happy. You get yourself a friendly one and she will come to you what time you like and leave when you want them to go! I would estimate that a decent girl at RPs maybe a 8 is earning somewhere between 2000$to4000$ a month! See the difference? There are numerous possibilities if you put your self about in Kiev, many ordinary girls will oblige for a small reward and they go home happy. We don' have to support agencies like Vice Kiev which has to be close to white sex slavery!

Enough of a rant now. Any body in Kiev feb 06 (more than likely middle of the month) who fancys a night outm please pm me. When I was there last I was talking to a Brit who told me they let the locals in (girls) Tuesday, so I said to Natali next time I am in Kiev we will go! She replys as fast lightining, I don't like RP on Tuesdays, which means the 200$ tricks are not plentiful. I was also told that they let the local men in and the girls charge 50$ to them but more for us!

Anybody with any tales to tell about Tuesday nights at RP please post them. So please ladsm do not disturb me about Kiev Post, but I will man the baricades if those students are outside River Palace.

Bandit7

[Puckk]

To follow up on Astroboy's report below, I've been here twice, and had one good experience, one bad. First of all, a girl to avoid - she is called Ksenia, a pretty full-bodied blonde (not thin), speaks some OK English and seems friendly when you're choosing, but once you are alone with her, she isn't interested in doing anything at all, even having a conversation, is totally passive and lifeless. She is actually a rather intelligent girl, I think, but has decided that she will give nothing of herself when working.

In general, I felt very comfortable visiting the apartment, and the girls and manageress seemed relaxed and friendly, so I think it's worth a visit. If a taxi driver takes you then their cut is taken out of the girl's money, and it's not too tricky to find - on the corner, a few doors along from a big club called 'Avalon', the door code is 273 I think, the apartment is up a couple of small flights of stairs.

[Barmer67]

Hi Klon15,

I myself speak Russian so had no such problem, but my friend speaks only English. Some times he would call up an agency and had no problem negotiating with them, just like Volpone wrote. most of them have someone that speaks Eng.
Once the girl is in your place you won't have any problem explaining her what you want. :-)
Also, many times we were told that non of the girls speak Eng. , but once in our place turned out they do a little. Some of therm are just too embarrassed that they don't speak well, so they just say they don't speak at all.
Don't let the language barrier stop you.

Barmer67.

Do any of the girls speak English or German?

k

[Uke Boy]

Here's a link to the Russian text as well as the photos of a "protest" held on December 23 you might enjoy seeing.

http://www.mpravda.com/?lang=ru&pubId=8416

Briefly, this was a half-naked protest by students against the Kiev Post. Sorry, no topless ladies or full nudity but it deals with possible future problems with our favorite pimp paper.

A brief translation.

"The Prosecutor General Got to See a Striptease"

Today, 23 December, a protest called "no sex mafia" was held under the intriguing name of "naked protest."

In this manner, several activists from various youth organizations took off their shirts to protest continued sex business advertising. The demonstrators tore up copies of the Kiev Post and threw them into the air.

The Prosecutor General was given a request to open a criminal investigation into the Kiev Post for its continued advertising of the sex business. In the pages of this publication one can find ads for sex services despite the fact that such services are not legal in Ukraine. The protestors said they were against child pornography and sex slavery.

If you have copies of the Post, make sure you hold on to them. It may not be too long before you will need another source to find these phone numbers.

[Bez Bezarra]

When they are 40 and 50 years old, you really think
about language skills?

If she reads you bedtime stories in Macedonian, you care?

[Volpone]

Hello Klon15,

Many of the girls in Kiev have some knowledge of English.
German just a few.

I would say that more of the half of the girls in Kiev are able to speak English with you. I mean the escort girls that you can find in some newspapers written in English. You can find these newspapers at the door of some good restaurants....

Furthermore when you call the agency, they speak English.
Just tell them, what kind of girl you want.
You sometimes have some surprises like if you ask for a blond hair, you get a black hair.....

Just one more thing, don't be too impatient. When they say, that the girl will be at your apartment or hotel room in 20 minutes, expect that she will come 40 minutes or 1 hour later.....That's the nice aspect of escort.

[Klon15]

Do any of the girls speak English or German?

k

[Europe 74]

Great Read! I got to Kiev once a year also. What did the thressome cost you? $200 for one for all seems a little high, but not for great service.

Europe74

[Barmer67]

Was in Kiev again few weeks ago with a friend. After a successful deal closure a local guy we work with suggested we get a massage to relax ourselves. I'm usually kind of skeptic about erotic massages as only few really know how to give a real good massage and the erotic part is far less then a full time sex with a girl. But the guy said we won't regret it and so jumping to the end - this was really an overwhelming experience.
Those are two women Anya and Klara doing a 4-hand massage. Their phone is 80505335232. Don't expect any young chicks, the one is around 50 and the other around 40 (although wouldn’t mind doing here) and has a Asian looks. They come over to your hotel/flat which is also more convenient then searching some local address. They bring with them their music, oils, scents and all that is needed. Each session is 40-60 minutes. They are doing the massage with only their panties on, but you really can't touch anything. When I tried that on the Asian looking one she gently but firmly returned my hand to its place.
I can’t really describe the whole massage, jus to say it was a wonderful feeling; they didn't miss a muscle in my body. And for the end they gave me one of the best hand-jobs I had. While one was finishing me off the other grab my neck and head and just as was coming she pulled it and squeezed it in some specific places, so that I couldn't hold the moaning and groaning. It was the best massage I ever had, and I had a few.

After a couple of hours, fully relaxed, we called a girl out local friend recommended. Her name is Tanya, phone 380675024362. She brought her friend Tonya as well and the deal was $200 for each for 2-3 hours. I'm used to paying much less in Kiev but those two were worth the money. Tanya is pro but is really easy going, and very energetic in bed. She will do anything (except anal) and really makes a lot of effort to give you good time. I'll post Tanya's photos in the photo gallery. After first round me with Tanya and my friend with Tonya, we switched girls. They had no problem with that. Tonya is black-hair very slim with a beautiful face. She has a kid, but you couldn’t tell as she is has a very tight body and breasts and looks 18. She didn’t let me take her pictures.
On the next day we called Tanya again and this time wanted to have a three-some. So this time she brought another 2 friends of her. She seams to run a whole harem. I first let my friend have Tanya with one of the other 2 girls, while I went with the third. And after that we switched and I took two of them and he went with Tanya. While with both girls they were very enthusiastic. While banging one of them the other was kissing and liking me all the time. Switched between the girls a couple of times and tried few positions with each. Again a top experience.

Can't wait to go back to Kiev and meet Tanya and her many friends again.

Marry Xmass,
Barmer67