Kyiv

[Coyle]

My fantasy is. Renting an apartment with 3 rooms. Find two girls. Buy some Bed Spreader Restraint belts. Tie each girl on each bed and fuck them as I want. I want to put the mask on their face so that they can't see. Creating my own world of Harlem. What an exciting idea! Fuck this girl with vibrator while the other girl hear all crazy moaning and move to the other room and fuck the other girl while sipping whiskey and cigar on my mouth while playing some porn or nirvana music loudly. Am I crazy?

Agree with Stevie69. It's more difficult than it looks in the movie / but in this kind of sex the most important is some emotional component. Especially if you managed to drag into bed not just hardened professional women but ordinary girls. It sometimes can really give you sharp emotions. Probably this is embedded in the male archetype. For example I like the very presence of the girls in the room. The last time when I had three, I retired to the bathroom and then went naked and went into the room where the marina and her sister were sitting. It's Sumy. City. I liked this feeling. Go naked. Then they began joking and fun to flirt with me. And the marina began to toss with humor my cock. With her hand. They understood that they were waiting for a prize and a delicious dinner ahead and therefore they were having fun and good. They were dressed. Her sister was more modest and she was a little nervous. And nervously laughed. Marina again easily threw up my dick but he already became a bit firmer that caused them to revive and smile. I stood naked in front of them. Marina told her sister, look at him carefully. And indeed she touched her finger with her fingertips and he began to get up and pour in blood.

Then I took her head and pressed her to me. She took a cock in her mouth and started to suck. Her sister looked at it and I noticed that she is excited. She is not very experienced.

[Tomek123]

Agree with Stevie69. It's more difficult than it looks in the movie / but in this kind of sex the most important is some emotional component. Especially if you managed to drag into bed not just hardened professional women but ordinary girls. It sometimes can really give you sharp emotions. Probably this is embedded in the male archetype. For example I like the very presence of the girls in the room. The last time when I had three, I retired to the bathroom and then went naked and went into the room where the marina and her sister were sitting. It's Sumy. City. I liked this feeling. Go naked. Then they began joking and fun to flirt with me. And the marina began to toss with humor my cock. With her hand. They understood that they were waiting for a prize and a delicious dinner ahead and therefore they were having fun and good. They were dressed. Her sister was more modest and she was a little nervous. And nervously laughed. Marina again easily threw up my dick but he already became a bit firmer that caused them to revive and smile. I stood naked in front of them. Marina told her sister, look at him carefully. And indeed she touched her finger with her fingertips and he began to get up and pour in blood.

Then I took her head and pressed her to me. She took a cock in her mouth and started to suck. Her sister looked at it and I noticed that she is excited. She is not very experienced.

After which I sent them to the shower. To be honest, I just fucked them in turn. A little in the missionary position and then in doggy. Marina was also good in a rider's pose. As I wrote earlier, you should not be too complicated a lover if you are in Ukraine. The main thing you do not have to fuck the Western pattern and endlessly think about the pleasure of a woman. You have to understand that women in Ukraine enjoy that they feel your strength and your bestial desire. It is sometimes more important for them than gentle cunnilingus three hours in a row and kisses. I can advise a blowjob from two girls. This is a great experience. But otherwise I avoid too complicated sex during the triad / it just can deprive you of pleasure. The best way is to just good and hard fuck one girl. Then the second. Without all kinds of kamasutra. The more Ukrainian girls like brutal fuck and love when they are hard fucked in doggy.

Your bestial passion is a big flattery for their self-esteem. They think, if this guy turned into such a beast then I'm very beautiful and I have great value. So do not be afraid to be an animal if you are in Ukraine. But of course without cruelty and violence.

This society is not very western yet and being a submissive female is not a humiliation for many women. Have this. It is important. It's not American women. Ukrainian women appreciate the strength of men. But on the other hand they can be very voracious and eat your chocolate. Fruit and Dutch cheese. Remember this haha. This is Ukraine and they like to devour someone's account. It's delicious and a lot to eat at your expense. So hide under the bed a small piece of meat or cheese for yourself if you do not want to go to the supermarket at night. The second feature is the farther you will be from Kiev the cheaper will be your pussy and sucking mouths but the worse there will be English. But I speak Russian therefore I do not have this problem.

Marina and her friends. (two of her friends in this photo I also fucked).

[Philosophus]

As you may know by now, I like well groomed, educated students with good manners, perky breasts, sweet nipples and healthy waist measurements.

Add not taller than 1,62 m, natural nails and dressed like a student, jeans, sneakers, a jacket and so on. Braided hair can add a youthful kick.

[Stevie69]

I have had a few, nearly all paid for, mostly in Kiev, and sometimes with the same girls. It is more complicated than I imagined. Many years ago, I used to date a bisexual girl, and we would go out and she would pick up a third. It only happened a few times, and all instances were great except the one case in which she picked up a strict lesbian whose only interaction with me was getting pounded while she ate my girl.

In Kiev, paying for it, I had a couple of bad experiences, until I learned. These first two times, the girls' intent was to to half the work for twice the money. It was not very good. I developed a simple rule: ever invite a second girl unless you have had a truly fantastic time with at least one of the girls. Preferably, try both independently beforehand. It is all about references; if they are good friends, it will be better. Only once have I had two strange girls. I had a double booking, and both girls arrived at the same time. I offered a threesome; they looked at each other and smiled. It worked.

The double BJ, which is great, but after that, you have to keep in mind that you are having sex with two girls one one, and then the other, and then back to the first one. It is a little more difficult if there is absolutely no girl-on-girl action. However, even the most heterosexual woman will kiss another woman if their tongues find each other while giving a BJ. With a penis in their faces, it cannot possibly be lesbian, can it? After that, you can probably count on a little caressing, and even fingering. The bold ones will go all the way to DATY. Anyway, getting BOTH girls fully involved at all times takes some conscientiousness on your part. One thing that works when the girls do not engage with each other too much, is doing one while she is on the lap of the other one. Particularly when they are friends, they enjoy watching each other being pounded.

Finally, and unfortunately, having to switch condoms every time you switch girls is a pain in the ass. At the very least, you have to insist that the BJ is without a condom (one more reason why you should try them out independently first). If they are really good friends (barely semi-pros who trust each other, or real pros who have gone together to get tested recently), you might get away with not switching condoms, but that is up to them. If you are fingering or eating their pussies, you are transferring fluids between them anyway. The best would be without any protection, but it would be unwise. You know you have a good session when every time you switch the condom, as soon as your penis is bare, one of the girls jumps on it and suck on it a while before you put on a new condom.

Hey,

I am preparing my next trip to Kiev. This time I want to try "Threesome".

If you have experience of threesome, can you share your experience / tips / such as what's so good about threesome. With two girls, 4 hands, 2 pussies, 2 mouths, 2 glory holes?

Thanks!

[PhotoSlider]

Contrary to my previous day-dreaming posts about readily available and widely open Ukrainian pussy)) Here I am with a newbie Q for veterans.

Synopsis: 2018 Orthodox Easter is on April 8. Too early for mini-skirts.

Flowering chestnuts are in May, so are some of the ex-Soviet holidays.

May-June are for Finals at the numerous universities, yet they don't study much. They make money, and pay those pesky professors.

June-July becomes too hot, and some of the beauties say: "Fuck it! I go to Cannes / Monaco, put on my most revealing bikini, and squeeze them suckers dry".

Objective: Visit not too late and maximize the ROI.

Question: What are the days / weeks that mongers will be complaining about them fat scammers and ugly cheaters, and what would be the best time to go to Kiev in May?

As you may know by now, I like well groomed, educated students with good manners, perky breasts, sweet nipples and healthy waist measurements.

Thank you much in advance for sharing your expertise.

[Womaniszer]

Hey,

I am preparing my next trip to Kiev. This time I want to try "Threesome".

If you have experience of threesome, can you share your experience / tips / such as what's so good about threesome. With two girls, 4 hands, 2 pussies, 2 mouths, 2 glory holes?

Thanks!

Threesome is an art. First one should learn how to do it. If you know the art, than you can definitely try. But I have seen lots of people who are unaware of threesome.

It has rules to perform 3 some.

[PhotoSlider]

Yes, balcony seat in opera. Everyone pretends to be gentleman and lady. I am going to make this happen when I visit next time.

I will buy entire balcony seats for her and make her sluttiest ever during all ballet show.

I see! Maestro knows a thing or two about perversions. You'll make my dream come true.

FYI: Holding the hand between tender thighs, barely covered by her silky dress, even while sitting in parterre, is perfectly fine, and doesn't raise any brows at all. Your lady of the night would actually expect it. And if you don't, she would feel uncomfortable, doubting that you appreciate her beauty. No matter the age difference.

Drinking is another story. Parterre is usually a no-no. Got to be respectful to performers. Even Belvedere is troublesome, got to be creative with cognac in a cup of coffee and such. I guess some of us became too drunk, and misbehaved in the past. Your balcony would be NP, especially if every other night bartender sees you with a new girl.

The best spot for truly taking her, is outside of the balcony, between the entrance doors and curtain separating adventuresome couple from other spectators. 6 seats in one section would be 400+250+100 times 2 = 1500 UAH = $55. Make sure it is uninterrupted by the calls from the agency by paying the girl for the duration, or having dedicated MILF, and by all means, go for it, man!

I'm sure this sort of things happens every night at NYC Metropolitan, and in La Scala.

[Coyle]

Yes, balcony seat in opera. Everyone pretends to be gentleman and lady. I am going to make this happen when I visit next time.

I will buy entire balcony seats for her and make her sluttiest every during all ballet show.

This is pure 24 karat gold!

Diversity. Assured unexpectedness.

The only regret I have is this: I could have had a BJ (or more) while in theater on more than one occasion. Not a movie theater, a real theater with performance on stage, and everybody watching. Girl was ready and excited, and I wasn't afraid, just decided I respect her feelings or something.

My regrets are more akin to amusement and need for more creativity, more adventure. It's totally doable though.

[PhotoSlider]

Hey,

I am preparing my next trip to Kiev. This time I want to try "Threesome".

If you have experience of threesome, can you share your experience / tips / such as what's so good about threesome. With two girls, 4 hands, 2 pussies, 2 mouths, 2 glory holes?

Thanks!

You have only 1 dick. Some girls do not consider substitutes as worth considering, and object to being second, in terms of penetration order. It's a matter of honor and pride, so to speak.

Also, changing the condom in the process makes it technically difficult.

Lots of nuances.

[Coyle]

Hey,

I am preparing my next trip to Kiev. This time I want to try "Threesome".

If you have experience of threesome, can you share your experience / tips / such as what's so good about threesome. With two girls, 4 hands, 2 pussies, 2 mouths, 2 glory holes?

Thanks!

[PhotoSlider]

...How many times you look back, "I should have talked to her" while slapping your poor peppie at night alone?

They are not standardized in all aspect of life. This sex industry is not organized. I think, Kiev became sexually famous not because of standardized process nor well organized system.

If you prefer that sort of "expectable" service, go to Germany or Austria. Ironically speaking, I like Kiev because of this unexpectable encounter.

This is pure 24 karat gold!

Diversity. Assured unexpectedness.

The only regret I have is this: I could have had a BJ (or more) while in theater on more than one occasion. Not a movie theater, a real theater with performance on stage, and everybody watching. Girl was ready and excited, and I wasn't afraid, just decided I respect her feelings or something.

My regrets are more akin to amusement and need for more creativity, more adventure. It's totally doable though.

[Riina]

Hahaha. Your experience was just like my first time.

Hotel and strip club are bad idea in my opinion. Ukrainians have some level of self-esteem which is nothing but sheer piece of paper in the beginning. But when you find a way to dodge this, you will find a way to get as much as you want.

The principle I follow. When girl / escort is not nice to you in the beginning (when first met without exchange of money or any), I go into next level. Bribe - money, perfume. Even after this 2nd trial, still not friendly or willing to give it to me what I want, I quit and give up and go. Bitches go away and I don't waste my time. Good for both parties. Most girls, when I offer the "bribe", they come in my way, suck my cock without condom or fuck me as if they haven't had sex for ages. Don't be a winy wimp.

I think my first trip was not successful because I put my emotions in front of me. Also this Western culture's pressure. Do not fucking think about talking to a beautiful girl on the street thing. Forget about this, relax and when your dick says she is hot, aim and go fucking talk to her. She will never come back and you will never see her again. Go talk to her! How many times you look back, "I should have talked to her" while slapping your poor peppie at night alone?

They are not standardized in all aspect of life. This sex industry is not organized. I think, Kiev became sexually famous not because of standardized process nor well organized system.

If you prefer that sort of "expectable" service, go to Germany or Austria. Ironically speaking, I like Kiev because of this unexpectable encounter.

With Ukrainians, keep it real simple with an offer for expected services. Absolutely no extra money is to be thrown their way in good faith. And absolutely no extra money is to be thrown their way in good faith. Lastly, absolutely no extra money is to be thrown their way in good faith.

Guys from the West are truly brainwashed to believe they can not approach a beautiful girl on the street. One of the best parts of traveling to Kiev is seeing the excitement of college age girls when I approach them with street small talk. I don't approach older girls, just the ones that still have juices.

[Coyle]

Hahaha. Your experience was just like my first time.

Hotel and strip club are bad idea in my opinion. Ukrainians have some level of self-esteem which is nothing but sheer piece of paper in the beginning. But when you find a way to dodge this, you will find a way to get as much as you want.

The principle I follow. When girl / escort is not nice to you in the beginning (when first met without exchange of money or any), I go into next level. Bribe - money, perfume. Even after this 2nd trial, still not friendly or willing to give it to me what I want, I quit and give up and go. Bitches go away and I don't waste my time. Good for both parties. Most girls, when I offer the "bribe", they come in my way, suck my cock without condom or fuck me as if they haven't had sex for ages. Don't be a winy wimp.

I think my first trip was not successful because I put my emotions in front of me. Also this Western culture's pressure. Do not fucking think about talking to a beautiful girl on the street thing. Forget about this, relax and when your dick says she is hot, aim and go fucking talk to her. She will never come back and you will never see her again. Go talk to her! How many times you look back, "I should have talked to her" while slapping your poor peppie at night alone?

They are not standardized in all aspect of life. This sex industry is not organized. I think, Kiev became sexually famous not because of standardized process nor well organized system.

If you prefer that sort of "expectable" service, go to Germany or Austria. Ironically speaking, I like Kiev because of this unexpectable encounter.

Was in Hotel Rus for most of the last two weeks in Kiev. Hotel promoted a strip club on the 2 d floor with 1/2 off discount coupons handed out starting at 10 pm for 100 UAH or $5. Went once to this club and then another time to the club at Presidential Hotel next door. Little pressure to buy drinks or tip and good looking girls, but after buying several drinks and tipping 100 UAH for a number of girls, asked a girl about going to a hotel room. She said that that was not permitted but she would take me to the VIP room for 200 UAH. Declined and left. Another member of my tour did the 200 UAH VIP room thing, but he only received a lap dance. He claimed that girls for going to a hotel room were available in the smoking lounge but I did not check this out. If you are going to the clubs, advise wearing a coat and tie, as you will be treated better.

Contacted some girls from an online website but the first did not look anything like the photo so I offered to pay afterwards and put the money where she could see it, as I did not trust her to just grab the money and walk out. I told her I did not trust Ukrainians to not cheat me so pay afterwards, then she walked out (without the money since I blocked her from just grabbing it from the top of the TV) saying I was crazy in a loud voice. Tried again later, hotel security got involved but when I told them I paid for a double room, they stopped hassling me in the lobby. You might want to get a local cell phone with a Ukrainian sim card for $30 (around 900 UAH) for easy calling local girls.

Overall, I'd suggest getting a double room for a few bucks more or an Airbnb room as the hotel security watch the lobby and if you haven't paid for a double room, they will be hassling you for "tips" or whatever. Saw one working girl sitting around on the 2 d floor but did not try to contact her as the online girls website looked like a better quality of girls, but the photos do not show what will be arriving in your cab. If you do not like the surprise (landwhale or? Arriving by taxi, send the girl back and try again and ask for the girl (model) shown in the photos. Good luck getting that.

[Stevie69]

The bit about getting an apartment as opposed to a hotel is definitely true, and it has been mentioned here many times before.

I also like to protect myself against girls not providing the agreed-upon services once they have money in hand. I am certainly not going to wrestle the money out of their purses. Paying afterwards is the only insurance. I also put the money somewhere visible. However, I have also had girls walk out.

Are you sure the sim card was 900 UAH? I remember getting one at the airport, as soon as I arrived, for about 100 UAH. It lasted for my entire 2 week trip.

Was in Hotel Rus for most of the last two weeks in Kiev. Hotel promoted a strip club on the 2 d floor with 1/2 off discount coupons handed out starting at 10 pm for 100 UAH or $5. Went once to this club and then another time to the club at Presidential Hotel next door. Little pressure to buy drinks or tip and good looking girls, but after buying several drinks and tipping 100 UAH for a number of girls, asked a girl about going to a hotel room. She said that that was not permitted but she would take me to the VIP room for 200 UAH. Declined and left. Another member of my tour did the 200 UAH VIP room thing, but he only received a lap dance. He claimed that girls for going to a hotel room were available in the smoking lounge but I did not check this out. If you are going to the clubs, advise wearing a coat and tie, as you will be treated better.

Contacted some girls from an online website but the first did not look anything like the photo so I offered to pay afterwards and put the money where she could see it, as I did not trust her to just grab the money and walk out. I told her I did not trust Ukrainians to not cheat me so pay afterwards, then she walked out (without the money since I blocked her from just grabbing it from the top of the TV) saying I was crazy in a loud voice. Tried again later, hotel security got involved but when I told them I paid for a double room, they stopped hassling me in the lobby. You might want to get a local cell phone with a Ukrainian sim card for $30 (around 900 UAH) for easy calling local girls.

Overall, I'd suggest getting a double room for a few bucks more or an Airbnb room as the hotel security watch the lobby and if you haven't paid for a double room, they will be hassling you for "tips" or whatever. Saw one working girl sitting around on the 2 d floor but did not try to contact her as the online girls website looked like a better quality of girls, but the photos do not show what will be arriving in your cab. If you do not like the surprise (landwhale or? Arriving by taxi, send the girl back and try again and ask for the girl (model) shown in the photos. Good luck getting that.

[AntonySun1996]

Brides are the number one export of Ukraine, the only thing worth something from Ukraine. Residency info shouldn't be too hard to find. Heck, I'll bet lot of guys on this board have married Ukrainian women.

Yeah I did find some info about this on the internet. Just feel it would be difficult to DIY, but I'm not sure if the migration agencies are reliable or just fraud like the dating agencies.