Kyiv

[JohnDoe091]

I can confirm that salaries are this low. I have lived here for 12 years and average salaries are less than they were 12 years ago. I should know. I employ 25 Ukrainians and pay above the norm. Yes, some people earn more than this but the median is certainly in this range. The only sector that pays well is software development.

I am confused, are you saying he is right and that an average girl earns around 5-8 K, or are you saying it is between 9-12 K?

What's the average salary in 1) Kiev, 2) Poltava, 3) Sumy for a girl?

What's the average per hour, for sex, a girl charges in 1) Kiev, 2) Poltava, 3) Sumy?

[Stevie69]

He is just there to raise the prices for the rest of us.

In retrospect, however, it would have been nice to start "vacationing" in eastern Europe when I was in my late 20's instead of my mid 30's. Early 20's, however, seems a little odd. Maybe he is more mature than the rest of us.

Depends who you are. I have no idea why a college age guy like you Anthony would be in Kiev without a legitimate business reason. But for grown up guys with no interest to work and just want to enjoy life, Kiev can be awesome with all the fun to be had.

[Stevie69]

Are you saying that 6000 is the norm now, or more?

One girl once showed me her contract, she was very happy about it, as an administrative assistant, and it was only for 7000 UAH, before taxes.

I can confirm that salaries are this low. I have lived here for 12 years and average salaries are less than they were 12 years ago. I should know. I employ 25 Ukrainians and pay above the norm. Yes, some people earn more than this but the median is certainly in this range. The only sector that pays well is software development.

[TuneFor]

Just a few words regarding this 5 days that I have spent in Kiev.

Still haven't visited Rio or had GIA girls as managed to find some action without them.

Mamba works just fine as it is full of hookers (I meet with 3 of them and all of them send msg first).

Then Tinder also works good, someone of them are not calling them self Prostitutes but they are because at the end it cost more dinning in all this fancy restaurants then just paying for sex. (although it might feel little better not having this money exchange and make it official).

Day game I still haven't tried as I had some medical problems after partying too much for weekend so still recovering. But problem for day approach (apart from mine not so good day game) will be English level.

Also lack of English is problem when you meet girl from Mamba, it is hard to establish Chemistry if there is no much of talking and if there is no good chemistry sex usually becomes mecanical which is big turnoff for me.

Still final conclussion has to be made and still 4 days left but so far I liked Kiev, women are my type regarding look but regarding attitude and mental state not so much as they are somehow cold, almost like objects, far away from s. America attitude.

But s. America is more far away and also I don't speak Spanish so again would have same problem.

I guess for Europe Kiev might be best you can get and will come back for sure but next time more experienced.

Sorry for bad English but I am kind in a rush no time to check for errors.

Final report to be made.

[OlaOlsen]

Hello,

Sorry for my bad language.

I have her number from other site.

She have ad on other web sites.

With other price.

This is not dangerous to write here!

Not "probably". Both management and girls read it.

I believe OlaOlsen made a mistake / typo. It must have been Karina or Kristina who used to work for GIA, and do not anymore. Too bad OlaOlsen doesn't have PM privilege.

I met Karolina, had great time, she wanted to meet again, and refused to give her phone number. Unfortunately I had a flight to catch and didn't repeat.

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[Jymondor]

http://gia-escort.com/girl/larisa4

Does anybody have experience with Larisa?

I haven't, but I read a review in a "secret thread" of the local forum I have access to. The monger who wrote that review is in trust so that I can make a quick summary here.

Her face is pretty. Like photos in the profile but less glamour. She is really tall on her heels. The legs are to die for. She is a professional model.

Tits are about the D-size a bit saggy but not too soft.

There is a scar on the bottom of the belly.

Friendly.

Non-pro massage but good.

BBBJ is rather soft.

DATY accepted well.

DIGITS allowed.

FS was OK. It looks like she likes it.

In general her skills a bit limited, but good attitude.

No words about English skills since the guy communicated in Russian.

All in all the report was rather positive, but I am still not convinced to take her next because of more exciting options available and I am not a big fan of very tall girls. Maybe later after I try first line girls. Larisa is prescripted for the leg lowers.

[PhotoSlider]

Why price in USD and UAH so different?

1 day in UAH is 23,000 UAH ($850) while it lists 1 day as 1200 $ ?

Remember what Stevie69 said?

And why are people allowing the negotiations to be conducted in foreign currencies?

[PhotoSlider]

Why price in USD and UAH so different?

1 day in UAH is 23,000 UAH ($850) while it lists 1 day as 1200 $ ?

Yep. $300+ difference.

Because GIA gets away with requesting more from foreigners, and foreigners obey and comply.

Management spin is that locals visit more often and thus have discount.

Management also says that after 5 visits foreigners can start using UAH prices.

Invest in learning local language and save!

[Coyle]

Why price in USD and UAH so different?

1 day in UAH is 23,000 UAH ($850) while it lists 1 day as 1200 $ ?

Nope. There is not much. If you can read Russian and Ukraninan, then try here:

https://gia.la/r/girl/larisa4

http://caryonline.com/ru/girl/larisa4

6 feet tall though! While ordering ask GIA that she puts high heels on.

[Coyle]

GIA probably reads this forum and this is their no. 1 rule to not give contact info to clients so you might get the girl in trouble for posting this kind of information.

I guess you are talking about Ira on gia.

She is all about chanel and has some attitude asking this that and left after 1st pop saying she feels sick or something. She is picky and all about money.

Avoid.

[Irish Lad]

No one has long worked in Kiev for 5000 hryvnia secretary in a month. It's an anachronism. In Kiev for a long time there are no such salaries. It's the money that a girl gets in such a city as Chernigov or Sumy. But not Kiev. In Kiev 9-12 000 hryvnia is the average and not the best salary for a girl. He most stupid uneducated girl from the village gets in Kiev 8 000 hryvnia working in a supermarket. This is work for the peasants where most of the girls are peasants. I live in Ukraine almost 8 months a year and is well aware of this from the Ukrainians themselves. Also consider that a huge number of girls have a father or mother who work in Europe and send money to their daughter every month. Now at least 5-6 and according to some experts' estimates, even 9-10 million Ukrainians work outside Ukraine. The poverty of Ukraine is a little myth. Created by the Ukrainians themselves.

I can confirm that salaries are this low. I have lived here for 12 years and average salaries are less than they were 12 years ago. I should know. I employ 25 Ukrainians and pay above the norm. Yes, some people earn more than this but the median is certainly in this range. The only sector that pays well is software development.

[DramaFree11]

You are correct, all my friends were making way more then this amount. I would ask, they would laugh, and reply I am not stupid. Most guys choose to believe what these girls tell them and unfortunately it is not true especially with the girls that mostly deal with foreign guys.

No one has long worked in Kiev for 5000 hryvnia secretary in a month. It's an anachronism. In Kiev for a long time there are no such salaries. It's the money that a girl gets in such a city as Chernigov or Sumy. But not Kiev. In Kiev 9-12 000 hryvnia is the average and not the best salary for a girl. He most stupid uneducated girl from the village gets in Kiev 8 000 hryvnia working in a supermarket. This is work for the peasants where most of the girls are peasants. I live in Ukraine almost 8 months a year and is well aware of this from the Ukrainians themselves. Also consider that a huge number of girls have a father or mother who work in Europe and send money to their daughter every month. Now at least 5-6 and according to some experts' estimates, even 9-10 million Ukrainians work outside Ukraine. The poverty of Ukraine is a little myth. Created by the Ukrainians themselves.

[PhotoSlider]

GIA probably reads this forum...

Not "probably". Both management and girls read it.

I believe OlaOlsen made a mistake / typo. It must have been Karina or Kristina who used to work for GIA, and do not anymore. Too bad OlaOlsen doesn't have PM privilege.

I met Karolina, had great time, she wanted to meet again, and refused to give her phone number. Unfortunately I had a flight to catch and didn't repeat.

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[Member #4722]

Hello,

Anyone tried Karoline at GIA?

I do have her phone number and offer for better deal than on GIA because she then not need to pay to house any money.

Ola.

GIA probably reads this forum and this is their no. 1 rule to not give contact info to clients so you might get the girl in trouble for posting this kind of information.

[OlaOlsen]

Hello,

Anyone tried Karoline at GIA?

I do have her phone number and offer for better deal than on GIA because she then not need to pay to house any money.

Ola.