Kyiv

[Vegamars]

You need to pay a small fee to enter River Palace and then you can go wherever you wish. At any time you'll see at least 50-60 working girls by the bar in the disco, but there are also many other girls sitting by the tables and dancing on the floor. Actually it's much more interesting to communicate with the non-working girls that will possibly lead into a long-term relationship without having to spend anything other than a drink and a dinner.
You might find some pros hanging around the most popular places like Club111, Joss and Mandarin, but it's more likely that you'll pop into natural ralationships here as those girls are much more beautiful. Let me warn you about the general misbelief that the Ukrainian girls are so willing to go to another country. Actually most of them, especially those living in Kiev and who have been to other countries in Europe cannot see any reason to go on living in a boring and dull atmosphere, so it's quite difficult to persuade them to take to another country. What they prefer is to have fun and to travel here and there occasinally!
If you wanna have some fun, you might try to have a look at
www.gia.com.ua
The service is quite satisfactory and it's just $60 for 1 hour and $160 for the night!

[City Angel]

I have read about River Palace on other reports on the board. I have looked at some general websites, where it says that it’s a casino, restaurant, sports bar, strip bar and disco.

Does the admission charge get you in to all of the parts of the boat? Or are the disco and strip bar extra? How many working girls are there likely to be there on an average night? And is every woman present a working girl or are there some amateurs they’re looking to meet westerners to get them out of the country?

Vegamars you wrote about Mandarin, Joss and Club 111 are these places for exclusively working girls or are they just bars/night clubs where a lot of working girls hang out?

Have been looking at some of the adult personal websites for some pro and ammeter action. Have any of you guys tried these out? Any success?

I'd really appreciate it if some one could help me out with a few of these questions? Although I'm relatively experienced punter, I've never really been anywhere as far off the beaten track as the Ukraine. So I'm trying to get as much concrete info on the scene there as I can.

Will promise some reports of Cundum proportions whilst I’m out there.

City Angel

[Vegamars]

Zair is located in Irpen town by the forest about half an hour by car from the center of Kiev. Though the environment on the way is quite attractive both during the summer and the winter, nothing is very different and attractive out there even after midnight. There's a hotel, restaurant, disco, casino and a strip bar, but it's not so interesting in terms of meeting girls. You can find dozens of similar places much more crowded with beautiful girls in the center of Kiev and around. I would recommend River Palace, Mandarin, Joss and Club 111. One very special and interesting place is Dino's Bar right on Kreschetuk Str across Dnipro Hotel. There you can find a good atmosphere underground with live music and strip show. Most important of all you'll be amazed to see a menu of about 20 pages including all kinds of drugs such as crack, extacy and so on if you're interested in the subject!!

[TheGuyFromNY]

Anybody familiar with a place called Zair? I saw there website and was curious if anyone knows anything about it. For instance, how far from center of town?

Thanks

[Vegamars]

The best hotel in terms of quality, price, service and girlfriendliness is Dnipro Hotel right in the center of town at the end of Kreschetuk Street. Compared to other cities and especially Moscow, where the lowest rate for a 3-star hotel is $80, Kiev is quite cheap anyway. For instance, you can rent a taxi or a private car for the purpose of taxi, drive wherever you like all around town from early morning till late at night ( The driver will be very happy to chat with you all day long and wait for you outside as long as needed when you have to go somewhere! ) and you'll pay a max. of only 200HRV ( about 40 bucks )
The best club to meet new girls ( I'd always prefer streets, cafes and restaurants as it seems much more natural and enjoyable ) is of course River Palace with a restaurant, disco and casino together.

[Mongering1]

I have tenative plans to check out the mongering scene in the Ukraine. I have not done any research yet, but will read this forum when I have the time. So, if any of you would like to email me or post a step by step guide for the mongering scene I would greatly appreciate it. I will of course post a complete trip report when I get back.

Bud
mongering1@yahoo.com

[Swissman]

Hi all,

I'm new in this section. I write some reports in the Moscow section and of course in the section of Switzerland.

I'm planing a trip to Kiev and now i have some question, ma by some of you can help me.

Which is a good Girlfrendly Hotel there
Where is the best place (disco or so) to meet a girl (ex in Moscow is it Nightflight and cesterfield)
What about the prieces

thanx!
Swissman

[City Angel]

Have booked an apartment in Kiev between the 12th and 19th of November. If any of you guys are in Kiev at this time it would be good to meet for a couple of hours for a drink and to compare notes. My email is cityangelplayer@hotmail.com

[Vegamars]

If I were you, I'd never use any kind of company to arrange anything in Ukraine as it would obliterate the real adventure and joy of your stay there which distinguishes Ukraine from any other country including Russia,Belarus,Lithuania,Estonia and Latvia.
If you insist on a virtual solution, www.*************.com
www.travelsexguide.tv and www.meta-ukraine.com
will make you quite content! You can find all sorts of info on travel, apartments, nightclubs, escort services and everything you can think of, even for other Eastern European countries.

I'll be on my way to Kiev again very soon folks! Who knows, maybe you'll see me on the way for great fun together?!

[Armorer]

secada,

Check out a mag, it comes out weekly, its free, has listings of clubs, places to eat, escorts, everything you could want. Also tells you what is going on that week.
THat is one of the first things I try to find when I arrive.
I think they have a web address aswell.
www.whatson-kiev.com
I Think that is it.

[Secada]

Hi Guys,

is there any newpaper in KIEV with advertising of Girls (Massage, Erotica etc...) like in Moscow ?


Thanx
Secada

[City Angel]

Fantastic field reports Cundum!!

I'm planning a trip to the Ukraine in January, do you think it is worth venturing outside of Kiev for purely mongering purposes?

Have looked at several companies offering apartments in Kiev. What company did you use? How much did you pay?

How did you find the woman in Night Flight? Where they Pro's? Amateurs? Young? Old? Any English Spoken?

Thanks,

City Angel

[Cundum]

Report from Ukraine

Arrived Monday evening 25th August - met by project driver and taken to my temporary apartment. I was left with the key and immediately telephoned Tanya (a girl-friend) who came on over and gave me all that I needed for the evening (I don't propose to share her telephone number she's a friend).

Tanya will never stay long after sex so she left at about 9:00 which was still quite early evening for me since I had flown Eastwards to get here. I walked to club Velvet (Hotel Ukraine) 45 UAH entrance and 15 UAH per beer. (Exchange rate is just over 8 UAH = £1). I was here because last time I was in Kiev I had persuaded a girl called Lada, for the price of a private dance in the club, to come to my apartment for a REALLY private dance. I wanted to see if she was still working here - she wasn't and I couldn't persuade either of the two young lovelies who came to sit with me to meet me outside the club. After about half an hour I left and walked on up to Hotel Dneipre. 3 ladies in the coffee bar all wanting $200 for services in my apartment. They were not young and certainly not raving beauties so I wont bother to go there again.

As I walked back along Kreschatic I saw two ladies in a coffee stall and said hello. I need to say at this point that I am not a young man so I tend to avoid wasting my time on the very young and sometimes stunningly beautiful girls you often see along this street. Of the two ladies one was heavily pregnant (she was seated with her back to me when I first saw her - I may be a little old but I am neither blind nor stupid!!!!!) Her friend (name Alona)was about 35 (I subsequently discovered) with a very large bust but was a little heavy around the hips - but not outrageously so. I discovered that it was her birthday today (it was just after midnight by this time) and so I insisted on inviting both to dinner that evening at Pervak, my favourite Ukrainian restaurant. The pregnant one declined (luckily) and so we agreed to meet outside the restaurant at 8:00. We were both on time and Alona turned up stunningly dressed - we sat in the restaurant and had two cocktails each and shared a main course and then agreed that coffee should be taken in my then apartment which was just across the street. On the way back we stopped to buy Martini (her choice) and milk for coffee - neither of which were opened that evening since I immediately began to give Alona her real birthday present which she was more than happy to receive in several places ( I don't like A so this orifice was not put to the test). Alona was a real enthusiast - in fact I needed to turn on the TV to drown the animal sounds! We agreed to meet again in two days time and she left. (By the way, I have few words of Russian and Alona spoke some English so our communication in the restaurant was quite acceptably fluent).

The next day at lunch time I exchanged eye contact on Kreschatic with another young lady of I guess about 34 - very slender and dark haired. She did not speak a word of English but we managed to agree to meet at 6:30 that evening. We duly met but did nothing on the sex front because she had to get home to her dogs and cats (2 of each for what its worth). So we exchanged phone numbers (which did nothing for her as I was moving apartments the next morning and did not yet know my new number) and agreed to meet two days hence. Regrettably I failed to turn up (for a work related reason) and was unable to call her in advance. I failed to have the courage to call her again (a) because of the language problem which is always more acute over the telephone and (b) because I haven't had a lady-free evening since that time.

I was consoled that evening by Yana who by amazing coincidence is the flat mate of Tanya (my very best Russian girl friend in Marbella) and is in Kiev staying with her sister for almost the same time that I am in Ukraine. So I, Yana, her sister and her sisters' two boys met outside McDonalds where I bought everyone a meal (I'm not a cheapskate - that was what they had come in to the centre of Kiev to do). The Macdonalds was taken to a nearby bar and a couple of brandies later we made a quick call to Tanya in Marbella for permission for Yana to come back to my apartment. The sex was OK (nowhere near as good as with Tanya so I hope I haven't damaged my relationship with her for nothing). Yana has gone to Turkey this week with her sister et al, so can't be contacted but can be found in the Playboy Club in San Pedro de Alcantara (Costa del Sol) most evenings. Her working name is Marina.

Whilst waiting that evening outside Bessarabskaya Rinok for Yana I was spoken to (in Russian) by a quite small but attractive young lady. I am always very polite so I answered her. I thought she was saying 'rabotayet' to me (meaning are you working here? as opposed to are you here on holiday? but she was actually saying 'rabotayu' which means I am working which she quickly confirmed by saying 'ya prostitutka'. (Translation unneccessary!!!) I explained that I was waiting for my girl-friend but we had time to exchanged names, telephone numbers and my address (so that she could come and visit me). Her English is non-existent and her name is Yula. Her asking price was 40 dollars which I suggested should be 200 UAH which is roughly $38 - I'm sure the price could have been reduced further but I start to feel guilty about really heavy bargaining - these girls have to live, and their lives are generally quite complicated with other members of their family to support. When I called the next day (Friday) I was a bit thrown to hear a male voice but he didn't hesitate to hand me over to her. I discovered later that it was her brother. Any way we met and had a super evening - two hours altogether with her giving me a BBBJ with CIM when my tackle failed to live up to expectations. We are due to meet again on Wednesday 3rd September. We did so - unfortunately it seems that she hasn't paid her telephone bill because it isn't answering at present.

On that same Friday afternoon I was walking back to my apartment with some shopping when a rather attractive lady of about 35 stopped me to ask me for directions. I do not look like a Russian/Ukranian!!!! She is a teacher of English - needless to say we exchanged telephone numbers and will meet when I have a free moment (which is obviously also related to recovery time).

Later on that evening I went to River Palace and met another semi-professional (name of Tanya!!!!) with whom I enjoyed a fulfilling 1 1/2 hours although this was not until 2:00 a.m. on Saturday morning for UAH 250 plus the costs of getting into the club and a few drinks which totalled about UAH 180 so this option is not the cheapest.

I have spelt out the above in some detail because I wanted to make it clear that the opportunity in Kiev for meeting and 'bedding' as many attractive ladies as you wish is almost unlimited.

I am in Ukraine for most of September and will only write again if something unusual occurs. (Apart from any other consideration I am denied access on the office LAN to WSG so am going to have to visit a cybercafe to get this report onto the discussion board).

[TjMax]

Thanks VegaMars,

I was able find a program with a high res steet map of kiev that linked all the pieces together with your descriptions...

Looks like a nice compact area... Cant wait to vist...

The russian web sites had the best info...

Thank god for bable fish!!!!
Just wish I could keep the thing from squirming arround in my ear when I am talking to a total hottie

-Max

[Vegamars]

Allright guys, some more hints to lead your way! The heart of Kiev is of course Kreshetuk street on the left bank of Dnieper river in old town, which takes about 20min. from Borispol Airport by taxi!

Anyone living in Ukraine would know this place and if you're still not sure to find the place, you can ask about the famous Dnipro Hotel just at the end of Kreshetuk Street and in a very large square across the big park with the Stadium of Dinamo Kiev!
Once you get there, you'll find yourself on the fascinating Kreshetuk street of about 2km long with all the big streets across it. The street is closed to traffic at weekends and you'll be surprised by the crowd and of course so many girls hanging around in all kinds of concerts and happenings on the street. Padole is located just across Dnipro Hotel and it takes just 5 min. on foot to reach the main street of Padole which is full of new restaurants,cafes and bars and gives you the feeling of wandering around Hollywood street in L.A. When you go uphill on the backstreets of Padole, you get the glimpse of Monmarte in Paris, but the combination of all these feelings are far beyond any words to describe, you must actually live it and feel it inside!