Kyiv

[Hecker]

I always say: it is not important my opinion (or your opinions) but it is important the reality. I reply you all: illusions, just illusions, illusions only.

I know your cases very well. I know what prostitutes think, too.

First of all, I agree approach is important but I add gentleman style is often not good.

I am sure most mongers are gentlemen. If it is true that approach is very important, girls should not raise their prices because this is a way to thank for your gentleman style. Instead, girls continue to raise prices year by year (or quarter by quarter). And you continue to think your gentleman style is good. Ridicolous!

When a man behaves as a gentleman, he shows himself to girls that he can do everything for them. And therefore girls, for their own natural instinct, take advantage of gentlemen in a cynical way. Therefore prices go to the sky.

I did my duty with everybody. If you want to continue to waste your money. that's your right.

You do not need gentleman attitude.You need pimp attitude.This comes with experience.You have to quickly callibrate each girl,search their limits etc.

[AColonizer]

I always say: it is not important my opinion (or your opinions) but it is important the reality. I reply you all: illusions, just illusions, illusions only.

I know your cases very well. I know what prostitutes think, too.

First of all, I agree approach is important but I add gentleman style is often not good.

I am sure most mongers are gentlemen. If it is true that approach is very important, girls should not raise their prices because this is a way to thank for your gentleman style. Instead, girls continue to raise prices year by year (or quarter by quarter). And you continue to think your gentleman style is good. Ridicolous!

When a man behaves as a gentleman, he shows himself to girls that he can do everything for them. And therefore girls, for their own natural instinct, take advantage of gentlemen in a cynical way. Therefore prices go to the sky.

I did my duty with everybody. If you want to continue to waste your money. that's your right.

[Explorer69]

Who are you? One more pimp that advertises here? I know what is "the work" better than you.

Money is the most important matter in life. And women, all kind of women, know that! You are free to be generous with prostitutes, because you are thinking with your own penis, of course.

Approach? Are you joking? OK, we, me too, can be a gentleman. But what do I usually see? When prostitutes need money, they make swallow blowjobs to old and dirty men with no approach, just men say "I want swallow blowjobs, 30 euros". I really laugh when I read that some people dress smart to meet prostitutes. Do you want a prostitute or a wife? The difference is the respect! A prostitute doesn't mind of you at all, you pay her and that's it! You could die one minute later the fuck, on the same bed, and she has already forgotten you: you are crazy, why have men to be a gentleman with prostitutes? Maybe you like to play as a gentleman, but you pay the time to play as a gentleman and not to have sex: good deal, sure!

And about services in Kiev? You come to Italy (and, perhaps, in all over the world) and all Ukrainian prostitutes make no-condom blowjobs. Why? Try to switch your brain on!

I am rather shocked by this attitude! You are far out and very wrong! My experience are that if you treat girls well, it may be either pros - or specially semipros, the treatment you receive back is much better. If you start pushing them, what you get back is bad. Of course now and then you meet the wrong girl, but if you you think it gets much better by playing tough and strong, then you have missed something important. Treat them like a lady and you get a hot (and sometimes very tender!) sex partner in return. Smile to the world and the world will smile to you!

[Gentleman Travel]

Money is the most important matter in life. And women, all kind of women, know that! You are free to be generous with prostitutes, because you are thinking with your own penis, of course.

Approach? Are you joking? OK, we, me too, can be a gentleman.... Do you want a prostitute or a wife? The difference is the respect! A prostitute doesn't mind of you at all, you pay her and that's it!

I disagree. I admit I do not have a lot of experience with prostitutes, or P4P as most of us refer to it here, but I think your attitude and approach can make a lot of difference, especially in Ukraine, where there are a lot of relatively "normal" girls hustling for a little extra money. They are not all harden hookers.

Based on my own experience and many of the stories recounted here, I see a lot of evidence that treating a semi-pro well can lead to better treatment in return. Of course there are exceptions and girls who view every guy as a "mark" to be exploited to the max, but there is also a world of working girls out there who will tailor their attitude and service level to suit yours.

Same is true with strippers. Some girls just go through the motions no matter what, but some girls will give you a better time if you treat them well. Same is true with any service profession.

Sure you have to make sure you get what you pay for, but sometimes you also get what you deserve (for better or for worse).

[Qjump]

Who are you? One more pimp that advertises here? I know what is "the work" better than you.

Money is the most important matter in life. And women, all kind of women, know that! You are free to be generous with prostitutes, because you are thinking with your own penis, of course.

Approach? Are you joking? OK, we, me too, can be a gentleman. But what do I usually see? When prostitutes need money, they make swallow blowjobs to old and dirty men with no approach, just men say "I want swallow blowjobs, 30 euros". I really laugh when I read that some people dress smart to meet prostitutes. Do you want a prostitute or a wife? The difference is the respect! A prostitute doesn't mind of you at all, you pay her and that's it! You could die one minute later the fuck, on the same bed, and she has already forgotten you: you are crazy, why have men to be a gentleman with prostitutes? Maybe you like to play as a gentleman, but you pay the time to play as a gentleman and not to have sex: good deal, sure!

And about services in Kiev? You come to Italy (and, perhaps, in all over the world) and all Ukrainian prostitutes make no-condom blowjobs. Why? Try to switch your brain on!

Pimp? Well before we get into a real nasty argument I will not respond to your insult.
I confirm every time I read your posts it’s always negative about Ukraine and how you can’t get bbj and anal sex off all hookers you meet.
If Ukraine is so bad stay home! Don’t come here! It’s really that simple.
Market forces are a thing here….
So you come here spouting real anger towards women here and hookers and you seem to think because you are paying money they should do what you tell them?????
If you want the best out of anyone who works for you there must be a relationship of mutual understanding…… but obviously with your mindset you have never managed a single person…. If you have god help them.
Keep on smiling!!!!!!!!!

[Hecker]

Hi!

I will be visiting Kiev at the end of the week. I have found a couple of ladies on Flirt.ru looking for sponsorship. The deal: be my "girlfriend" and I will provide financial assistance.

2 of them (20 and 24 yo) are asking for 1500 USD for 3 days (all day), the last one (26 yo) the same price for 5 days.

What do you think about those prices?

To give you a comparison I found a girl which is asking for 100$ per day and 100$ for each of her girlfriends per day.So it is 300$ for 3 girls for the whole day.

[AColonizer]

Who are you? One more pimp that advertises here? I know what is "the work" better than you.

Money is the most important matter in life. And women, all kind of women, know that! You are free to be generous with prostitutes, because you are thinking with your own penis, of course.

Approach? Are you joking? OK, we, me too, can be a gentleman. But what do I usually see? When prostitutes need money, they make swallow blowjobs to old and dirty men with no approach, just men say "I want swallow blowjobs, 30 euros". I really laugh when I read that some people dress smart to meet prostitutes. Do you want a prostitute or a wife? The difference is the respect! A prostitute doesn't mind of you at all, you pay her and that's it! You could die one minute later the fuck, on the same bed, and she has already forgotten you: you are crazy, why have men to be a gentleman with prostitutes? Maybe you like to play as a gentleman, but you pay the time to play as a gentleman and not to have sex: good deal, sure!

And about services in Kiev? You come to Italy (and, perhaps, in all over the world) and all Ukrainian prostitutes make no-condom blowjobs. Why? Try to switch your brain on!

AC wow I can see why you are a real hit with the women, jaded to say the least. You seem to get a shit deal everytime you come to Ukraine why not just stay home and save money? Or perhaps you have the same problem at home? Bad service? Bad girls?

Ever thought your shitty approach rubs the girls up to start? And thats why you are treated in such a way?

I would guess so.

To those in Ukraine for the first or five hundreth time don't take his posts to heart. You get out what you put in!

So make the effort and enjoy the times, don't and just stay home!

[Cruiser D]

Luka, GIA has been covered ad nasuem here. Below average girls at above average prices.

Street, is the apartment a western remodel? Where is it located?

Rozan, you can still sponsor a girl for $1500/month so you tell me if you are getting a good deal at 3 days...

[Eros74]

What about Gia ? It is a long time I saw no report about this agency, back feedbacks or what ? what I like in Gia, you see in advance which services girl provides.

Any other agency we can trust in Kiev about escort girls ?

Spasibo..

[Qjump]

AC wow I can see why you are a real hit with the women, jaded to say the least..... you seem to get a shit deal everytime you come to Ukraine why not just stay home and save money? or perhaps you have the same problem at home? bad service? bad girls?
Ever thought your shitty approach rubs the girls up to start? and thats why you are treated in such a way?
I would guess so.
To those in Ukraine for the first or five hundreth time dont take his posts to heart.............. you get out what you put in!
So make the effort and enjoy the times, dont and just stay home!

[AColonizer]

Yes, saint words! You will meet the lady in person and take her in your flat. Here, you will look at the lady's body very well and you will ask about "services" and you won't be afraid about "embarassing" questions because, as Street Sleuth wrote, "Ukrainians aren't known for the honesty/service". Ask about no-condom blowjobs and anal sex because they are normal sex in all sex meetings. Will the lady reply "niet"? OK, don't worry, say "no respect of me, no money to you" and kick her out the flat. Please, don't worry because we, all forumers, are sure she will provide bad sex and she will waste your money. In this way, you will contribute to decrease girls' prices in Kiev. Otherwise, the next time, you will pay 150$/first hour for an easy pussy fuck.

Rozan,

The girls posting 'sponsorship' - if you are only in kiev a short while, they aren't really for you. They will want all the money up front, and Ukrainians aren't known for the honesty/service.

You are better off with the one hour straight forward girls on flirt - there are oodles of them, typically around $100/hour. Some good quality, some not.

[Street Sleuth]

Rozan,

The girls posting 'sponsorship' - if you are only in kiev a short while, they aren't really for you. They will want all the money up front, and Ukrainians aren't known for the honesty/service.

You are better off with the one hour straight forward girls on flirt - there are oodles of them, typically around $100/hour. Some good quality, some not.

[Street Sleuth]

I haven't chimed in here for awhile. I've been in Kiev for awhile, so mostly do the local thing - local freebies, as well as some P4P w/Russian speaking only girls, to be found on various websites (much cheaper than RP, but quality not always as good).

In any event - I have a sizable apartment, and a decent database of info (stored in my aging head). If anyone is headed to kiev for a short jaunt, and needs a relatively cheap, 'liberal' place to stay, send me a private message.

[Rozan481]

Hi!

I will be visiting Kiev at the end of the week. I have found a couple of ladies on Flirt.ru looking for sponsorship. The deal: be my "girlfriend" and I will provide financial assistance.

2 of them (20 and 24 yo) are asking for 1500 USD for 3 days (all day), the last one (26 yo) the same price for 5 days.

What do you think about those prices?

[Cruiser D]

Which strip clubs are these AC?