Kyiv

[AColonizer]

Anyway, questions remain:

I read fisting and BDSM in top-models.com.ua?, did you try those? Or just a pussy fuck? And above all, did they make swallow blowjobs as a standard service?

About slang, uncovered blowjob doesn't mean swallow blowjob. Therefore it is necessary always to specify "swallow deepthroat blowjob", always.

Thanks for help.

[Street Sleuth]

The girls on the web site keep changing. Sometimes they disappear and popup some time later. Sometimes they are gone for good. The only profile I see I tried and the girl is there is

http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=641

Sometimes they may cheat and send a different girl though. But, you can send them back without any issues.

I haven't tried all the services. blowjob without condom, not all girls do. But you can persuade them. Some did and some didn't

Anyway, back to my questions:

1. are there multiple agencies?

2. do the girls changing the agencies? the numbers and names keep changing and the girls are same.

3. how much controlled is this? are they in trouble for sharing personal numbers? etc.

1) Yes - multiple agencies, as well as some independants. As pointed out, when you click on 'friends', you'll see all the girls with the same phone number - that's an agency.

2) Its part of the EE Stimulus Plan - everyone has to buy a new SIM card every 90 days.

3) With agencies, quite controlled. They aren't supposed to give their personal number - but, if they like you, many will.

[Doctor_Skank]

What? You lost my number?

B-O-W-L-I-N-G

I'm in.

[Uke Boy]

I have been to Kiev a few times. I ordered different girls from top-models.com. Ua and had good results. More or less I should say I was satisfied, though some times things didn't workout.

What I am trying to understand is, if it is run by a single agency, multiple agencies? Of course, you see different phone numbers there. But, I see the same girls changing the phone numbers and seem to be associated with different groups. I wonder what does that mean? Does the girl keep moving from one agency to another one? Or is it that they are with same agency but changing the phone numbers or something else.

Top Models is just a site that takes various listings from both independents and agencies. It is the most reliable local site. When you click on the link to the girl's photos, you may see several other girls listed. That is either an agency or what they have here as a loose "co-op." I know of two girls on the site who live together and work in the same apartment but consider themselves indies.

Numbers change with some frequency, phones are lost or they get bad reviews on the local review site and change it to fool the unwary.

An indie is usually listed by herself but that is also not always the case.

Like anything else here, it really is just a case of luck, for good or ill.

[Adamg123]

The girls on the web site keep changing. Sometimes they disappear and popup some time later. Sometimes they are gone for good. The only profile I see I tried and the girl is there is

http://www.top-models.com.ua/?id=641

Sometimes they may cheat and send a different girl though. But, you can send them back without any issues.

I haven't tried all the services. blowjob without condom, not all girls do. But you can persuade them. Some did and some didn't

Anyway, back to my questions:

1. are there multiple agencies?

2. do the girls changing the agencies? the numbers and names keep changing and the girls are same.

3. how much controlled is this? are they in trouble for sharing personal numbers? etc.

Can you put the links or send a PM to me about who and what you received from top-models.com.ua?

I read fisting and BDSM in their profiles, did you try those? Or just a pussy fuck? And above all, did they make swallow blowjobs as a standard service?

Thanks

[Irish Lad]

Having been out of Kiev for some time, I humbly request some ISG insight on places to go:

Clubs (freebies, dates, pros)
Restaurants (dates, good chow)
Ho-ing (clubs besides RP w/pros)

Decadance, Kaif, PaTiPa, Avalon, Arena... these places still going? Where and what else is hot... or at least OK?

I prefer upscale or drinking holes. Or both under one roof.

What? You lost my number?

[DJ FourMoney]

I don't know if being black would have an special issues in Kiev, but I can tell you an Indian coworker of mine did have a number of issues with thugs hassling him on the streets around Arena, as well as being turned away from several clubs as part of their 'face control'.

I had no problems at all.... Face control huh? Cured with good looking women tagging along with you.

Is Russia media still telling lies and half truths???

Nate's web site is still up and following everything, maybe they should have actually done research, morons.

[LifeSavour]

Not fully free no, but I intend to start a Friday night curry for starters, of course with plenty of spicy side dishes

My life needs some spicing UP!!

[LifeSavour]

I love them, use 'them all the time. Nice way to meet very eligible mommies!

And Heck', you have not seen these 2 girls. I am doing this one on the CHEAP!

Well, I thought I was! UPDATE:

Got a sms from VV, Hello! Y am working to 23:00 o clock. Y do not vent to you. May be call me tomorrow?

OK, some thoughts. Since she asked for a call I will. Do I believe she is working until 23:00 when her Voila office closes at 21:00. Duh. But this reinfoces the fact that WE have to 'spring' when the time is presented 1st. These girls 'change' with the wind. Probably what happened is V2 could not come and VV was afraid of my sms where I told her there would be Kisses!

So, we will try for tonight! If a NO GO. Well there are many more 'taxis' to follow this one! Ha

On another note:

Been writing to a very nice, sexy looking 40 yr old. She wants to meet this afternoon. So do I. But what is wrong with these mother's? Don't they know how dangerous this BEHAVIOR can be, they are supposed to protect their little girls!!!!

Message:

I have the daughter - Alina. She is 18. She knows perfectly English language. If you not against we will be together.

Cell phone of my daughter: 8 ***.

hmmm, I'm NOT against!!!! (meeting daughter alone)

LS "Fawking Bastard" Guy

[Qjump]

Ah so you won't be a free man.. still, we'll have to meet for a weekly curry at the very least (make sure the Mrs understands..). That's a curry with side dishes, of course

Not fully free no, but I intend to start a Friday night curry for starters, of course with plenty of spicy side dishes

[Ash1001]

Yep full move, house hunting there next week

Ah so you won't be a free man.. still, we'll have to meet for a weekly curry at the very least (make sure the Mrs understands..). That's a curry with side dishes, of course

[Doctor_Skank]

Sorry, I don't believe you are going home by marshutka with these two girls instead of taking a taxi.

Riding the marshrutka together = true love! )

[Brandon88]

I don't know if being black would have an special issues in Kiev, but I can tell you an Indian coworker of mine did have a number of issues with thugs hassling him on the streets around Arena, as well as being turned away from several clubs as part of their 'face control'.

[Qjump]

Cool. The whole family's moving to Kiev? Is this permanent?

Yep full move, house hunting there next week. Good time to buy

[Hecker]

. Or rather 'blow by blow'. Hunting the "still costly ones"! Ha ha

I am slow! I let them think this is so harmless. I am like their 'papa', in fact I tell them first off "My sons are older"!

Vika the VOILA cable girl. In January I moved to a new flat. And had to spend about 3 different days and 4 hours with Vika (she was the only girl with some english). So for all her help I make my usual offer of meeting in cafe to help her english. She agreed, said she would drink coffee and I collected her number.

NOTE" guys never believe a word 100% from any of these girls! Even my last live-in Oksana, had her own $, never really asked for much either. 1 day I need to change a 200 uah note, asked her "Do you have any grivna? " NO NO!

Then I showed her the 200 and said I just want 40 or 50 and you keep the rest. MAGIC! I got my 50!

So back to VV girl. She had told me she lived on the street of this Volia office, with mama, papa, sister, brother. She had no boyfriend. I am thinking this is good, a gal with not much happening in her life other than work. We finally agreed to meet yesterday.

I picked a cafe 5 minutes from where she should be living. She was the customary 15 minutes late and another 15 to even find the cafe, even though she is standing just across the street. They just do not understand nor can they give decent directions!

Finally she pops down the stairs with another customary thing. Vika2! I almost blew the deal off then but the smile from this obvious younger one froze me!

They sit opposite, VV proposes beer, V2 wants Baileys! Cheap Skate pulls out 100 uah note and says "hey, I was expecting only one, next time we will PARTY! "

We talked for 90 minutes, they each drank 2 beers. I found out they were 25 & 18, VV was from Donetsk and is planning on going back in April (hurry LS). She re-stated NO boyfriend. V2 is 18, studies, has a BOY. (I love this, 'because I always then ask if they want a MAN? ) Always a laugh! They live together not far, but not on this street either.

So we start talking about Disco, they mention ones I have not heard of. NICE, 'because they are local ones. Easy to IMPRESS.

Then I ask about drinks, how about Kahlua? Never heard. I'm thinking "Feed them Black Russians and I will be fawking a White (UKR) Russian! Sambucca, da Da DA! They like! So, the plan is Friday night we meet at 21:30 near Darnytsa metro. Then marchutka to my home.

So far the damage has been 48 uah for 4 beers.

Ps. Just talked to VV to change from tonight to Friday. (Anya 38, sure thing is missing me and wants to come over, 36 F's. But she will not agree to photos I asked VV for V2's number but VV said no, NO! Good Signal!

Pps. This V2 is very sweet, smaller, and I wish I had a 'partner' 'because I really don't think I'll score 2 in bed on the 1st night at home. Hmmm ASH, where are you?

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Sorry, I don't believe you are going home by marshutka with these two girls instead of taking a taxi.