Kyiv

[AntonySun1996]

I will come to Kiev again soon in December and I'm considering staying in this place.

I'm wondering if I would have problem taking my girls inside. Some are working girls some are semi pros. Has anyone had any experience in this hotel? Any information would be appreciated.

[MagicSheep74]

One nasty problem I have seen in this forum thread: if you are a poster who thinks UK is a rip-off / not available hot girls: name the alternative! I can always book my next vacation there. But don't just badmouth this place unless you KNOW a better one.

Your welcome. If you would like to have sex with a more beautiful girl than you can in Kiev for money, see list below. If you are looking for a long term relationship with a Ukrainian girl, ignore list below.

Club Vive. Madrid.

Brix. Singapore.

Premier. Dubai.

Pigmalion. Madrid.

Club Aphrodisia. Zurich.

New Scandalo. Malaga.

Club Globe. Zurich.

Spasso. Bangkok.

Estark 92 - Malaga Spain.

girlsbcn.com - Barcelona.

Scandallo + Cafe Photo. Sao Paulo Brazil.

FKK Oase. Germany.

Escort privada. Lisbon.

911- Aurora. Moscow.

[PhotoSlider]

From my own experience its 2000 UAH + 200 for taxi for an hour (approximately 72 $). In Comparison, multiply by 3 its 211 $ for 3 hours with a girl from Rio. Am just doing the math here be aware that this doesn't include entrance and drinks in the club. But I should mention again that in Rio you don't have the option of 1 or 2 hour, you only get 3 or more.

Negotiations at Rio before the departure establish the length of stay. Could be 2 hours, or could be "till the morning" - which often is interpreted as 5-6 am, and maybe no intercourse upon wake up.

Agency girls tried to extort from me 200 Taxi fee. I insisted on 100, stating that I am a long term customer with special arrangement, and if they don't like it, they can leave. 21 times 100 I get another girl)). My consolidation agency supports me. Besides all agencies are within 100 UAH reach, and I don't care about paying for round trip.

At the same time 9 hours ago I gave 500 tip to a 8-9 girl. There was a nonstop DFK, BBBJ, 69 and great love making in multiple positions all for 1800+100+that tip. I couldn't extend beyond one hour as I had obligations with another young lady this morning. I also gave her that hand lotion that Riina recommended as a small gift.

[Gsi2810]

You will have fun. If you don't embark with expectations of 9's and 10's you won't set yourself up for disappointment. There are beautiful women everywhere in Kiev. Many of them need money and they are open sexually. This is what I like about Kiev as my meetings (mostly off Mamba) include some "getting to know you" time that is off the clock. This is rare in mongering where one hour usually means 60 minutes only. In my experience the women are normally open to be wined and dined off the clock. I rarely ever repeat with escorts but every trip to Kiev I usually meet up with the same ladies several times.

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From my own experience its 2000 UAH + 200 for taxi for an hour (approximately 72 $). In Comparison, multiply by 3 its 211 $ for 3 hours with a girl from Rio. Am just doing the math here be aware that this doesn't include entrance and drinks in the club. But I should mention again that in Rio you don't have the option of 1 or 2 hour, you only get 3 or more.

It all depends on your budget and your needs (and taste ofc). For example, I would invest in a beautiful girl who is also sweet for few hours or maybe even the night rather than having an every day (I don't want to sound objectifying) decent girl.

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Thank you gentlemen, I still have a over half a year left before my trip will keep this message acrhived for future references. Cheers!

I don't want to seem ungrateful or greedy or someone who doesn't do research but I would be very obliged if we can have a conversation about this, if any of you gentlemen have any tips for Moscow as well unlike Kiev forum I have only read a couple of pages there. My summer 2019 will boil down to Moscow or Kiev. I gather that Moscow is far more expensive but English speaking is a bit common and as one poster said "the level of pussy walking down the street is incredible" Haha.

But the prices seem out of the world, 300 $ or near-about. My obsession with salvic girls began when I first visited Pattaya a few years back. Thai girls are great and all but the girls at the Russian clubs stole my heart with their beauty (of course there were a lot of Ukranian women there as well). The prices quoted in those clubs seemed obscene we are talking 500 $ for an hour or maybe it was 2 hours. The girls of course were stunning, if I were to wear my cheap charlie hat, a flight to BKK and then Pattaya (quite a cheap city) and hotel there is a quite cheap so is it actually worth going to someplace like Pattaya and mongering with the Russian / Ukrainian girls there? I remember reading a post in a forum which stressed that one should never monger with expats and always stick to locals for a better experience.

[Habeed]

Well, I don't know Russian. But I travel to Kiev this weekend. I have been messaging girls on Ukraine Date and mamba. UKD has so far proven more fertile. I have found about 6 who have agreed to meet: unfortunately I have not been able to pin many of them down on pricing. I think many are semi pros: they didn't stop talking to me when I discussed basically P4 p but they want to meet first. One girl offered 300 USD per day rate, where this would be all night and the morning each day. Alas, she sent some clear recent photos and she is about a 6 to me.

The hottest one I have gotten a response from on mamba won't discuss details until I arrive.

One nasty problem I have seen in this forum thread: if you are a poster who thinks UK is a rip-off / not available hot girls: name the alternative! I can always book my next vacation there. But don't just badmouth this place unless you KNOW a better one.

[JeffAA]

Thank you for the detailed report sir, my Kiev trip will be around the same next year and I'm reading up on this forum (around 10 pages). Would also like to thank PhotoSlider for his numerous reports as well. I am an easy to please mongerer and most of the guy's 7 would probably be my 8. 5 or 9 but to me some romance goes a long way. So I don't really prefer escort agencies, my P4 P action comes from bars and streets and maybe even Tinder (have to download Mamba), I like to know the girl a bit, have a drink or two with her for an hour, dance with her and then have GFE, at this point she has warmed up to me as well and since money has been decided beforehand she can focus on having fun with me. I'm all about the GFE experience and honestly it's hard for me to maintain "my boy" if she isn't warm or we ain't going at it like lovers instead of a professional relationship. I'm relatively young but I don't consider this an issue GFE turns me on rest doesn't. One of the posters mentioned the clubs are too expensive for local girls but streets are kinder to mongerers. Also I guess strip clubs like Rio are fair game for me as I get to know the girls and have a drink or two with them before going ahead..

Photo Slider (again many thanks for your posts) often mentions he abided by 2000+100 cab fare rule for the escorts should I expect this kind of pricing from the girls I meet while having a night out? I get that girls from strip clubs like Rio will be like 2 X or 3 X the price. I have read around 10 pages of the forum yet and of course will read up a lot more before my trip in the coming months.

From my own experience its 2000 UAH + 200 for taxi for an hour (approximately 72 $). In Comparison, multiply by 3 its 211 $ for 3 hours with a girl from Rio. Am just doing the math here be aware that this doesn't include entrance and drinks in the club. But I should mention again that in Rio you don't have the option of 1 or 2 hour, you only get 3 or more.

It all depends on your budget and your needs (and taste ofc). For example, I would invest in a beautiful girl who is also sweet for few hours or maybe even the night rather than having an every day (I don't want to sound objectifying) decent girl.

» I mentioned in my report that mamba is great, the cheapest rates I could get is 50 $/ h for a decent girl (remember that premium might give you and advantage and its not even expensive).

• As for the guy who asked about any Gia girls, I'm sorry to say that non of the girls I saw are still on the website, I guess I bring them bad luck XD (one of them got married, don't ask me how I know) .

However here are 2 names in case they get back:

1. Rita. Fluent English, A cup, slender 165 CM body, really knows what she's doing, a goddess face, perfect for a GFE.

2. Ivana. Blonde, decent English, be cup maybe, less with the GFE more with action itself (might let you do stuff you didn't expect).

[Member #4722]

Thank you for the detailed report sir, my Kiev trip will be around the same next year and I'm reading up on this forum (around 10 pages). Would also like to thank PhotoSlider for his numerous reports as well. I am an easy to please mongerer and most of the guy's 7 would probably be my 8. 5 or 9 but to me some romance goes a long way. So I don't really prefer escort agencies, my P4 P action comes from bars and streets and maybe even Tinder (have to download Mamba), I like to know the girl a bit, have a drink or two with her for an hour, dance with her and then have GFE, at this point she has warmed up to me as well and since money has been decided beforehand she can focus on having fun with me. I'm all about the GFE experience and honestly it's hard for me to maintain "my boy" if she isn't warm or we ain't going at it like lovers instead of a professional relationship. I'm relatively young but I don't consider this an issue GFE turns me on rest doesn't. One of the posters mentioned the clubs are too expensive for local girls but streets are kinder to mongerers. Also I guess strip clubs like Rio are fair game for me as I get to know the girls and have a drink or two with them before going ahead.

You will have fun. If you don't embark with expectations of 9's and 10's you won't set yourself up for disappointment. There are beautiful women everywhere in Kiev. Many of them need money and they are open sexually. This is what I like about Kiev as my meetings (mostly off Mamba) include some "getting to know you" time that is off the clock. This is rare in mongering where one hour usually means 60 minutes only. In my experience the women are normally open to be wined and dined off the clock. I rarely ever repeat with escorts but every trip to Kiev I usually meet up with the same ladies several times.

At the bars expect to pay $100-$200 but in my experience (only had two ladies from bars) that normally gives you a few hours of crazy sex, especially when booze is involved. These girls will try to get the most out of you as possible so be firm with negotiating. I like Caribbean Club, ladies there every night but best selection on weekends. For a fun time Closer club has international DJs on weekends (think underground rave) and is always packed when they have a show. If you are on the younger side and have game it's certainly possible to meet hot women there but it's not a pickup joint like the tourist clubs.

[Gsi2810]

This is my first post here in these forums, I'm writing this in response to Rog123 and DramaFree11 comments about guys not sharing their experience from the trips and giving tips to other fellow mongers, this is a short guide to mongering in Kiev, I hope it will help other guys who read the forums.

Note 1 : I've been visiting these forums for years and the information I got helped me a lot and this is how I pay back and give respect to other mongers who share their experiences and help others have happy times.

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Thank you for the detailed report sir, my Kiev trip will be around the same next year and I'm reading up on this forum (around 10 pages). Would also like to thank PhotoSlider for his numerous reports as well. I am an easy to please mongerer and most of the guy's 7 would probably be my 8. 5 or 9 but to me some romance goes a long way. So I don't really prefer escort agencies, my P4 P action comes from bars and streets and maybe even Tinder (have to download Mamba), I like to know the girl a bit, have a drink or two with her for an hour, dance with her and then have GFE, at this point she has warmed up to me as well and since money has been decided beforehand she can focus on having fun with me. I'm all about the GFE experience and honestly it's hard for me to maintain "my boy" if she isn't warm or we ain't going at it like lovers instead of a professional relationship. I'm relatively young but I don't consider this an issue GFE turns me on rest doesn't. One of the posters mentioned the clubs are too expensive for local girls but streets are kinder to mongerers. Also I guess strip clubs like Rio are fair game for me as I get to know the girls and have a drink or two with them before going ahead.

Photo Slider (again many thanks for your posts) often mentions he abided by 2000+100 cab fare rule for the escorts should I expect this kind of pricing from the girls I meet while having a night out? I get that girls from strip clubs like Rio will be like 2 X or 3 X the price. I have read around 10 pages of the forum yet and of course will read up a lot more before my trip in the coming months.

[DramaFree11]

We are all on this thread talking about UA girls, But out of curiosity and not disputing your figures wherever you got them from, do you have any idea where those " Newbies " Hail from?

Are you talking about civvie girls or WGS? If its the former, then Ethnicity, Nationality, Age, Looks, are very important factors & of course $$.

No one can judge the looks of such girls without unblurred photos.

As for pro girls in Kiev, an average or below average girls in the eyes of a monger from Country X might look a stunner in the eyes of a monger from country why.

Average looking girls at best!

[Jojosun]

Embarrassment, 40-60% Of newbies fail in Kiev. Just not that easy Kiev, unless you're looking for very low or average girls.

We are all on this thread talking about UA girls, But out of curiosity and not disputing your figures wherever you got them from, do you have any idea where those " Newbies " Hail from?

Are you talking about civvie girls or WGS? If its the former, then Ethnicity, Nationality, Age, Looks, are very important factors & of course $$.

No one can judge the looks of such girls without unblurred photos.

As for pro girls in Kiev, an average or below average girls in the eyes of a monger from Country X might look a stunner in the eyes of a monger from country why.

[Guntherus]

Thanks Jeff for your report, interesting and informative.

[AntonySun1996]

Does anyone has recent experiences with GIA girls? Any girl to recommend? Busty long legged blondes preferred.

[DramaFree11]

When Everything is so quit in the forum it comes to my mind that so many aspiring punters have used this forum to ask for advice when going to Ukraine for the first time, promising to send a report upon return. To my best knowledge, none have appeared. Maybe their trip was a total failure and they are ashamed of reporting the mistakes. But this is what others can maybe learn the most from.

Embarrassment, 40-60% Of newbies fail in Kiev. Just not that easy Kiev, unless you're looking for very low or average girls.

[Member #4722]

This is my first post here in these forums, I'm writing this in response to Rog123 and DramaFree11 comments about guys not sharing their experience from the trips and giving tips to other fellow mongers, this is a short guide to mongering in Kiev, I hope it will help other guys who read the forums.

Note 1 : I've been visiting these forums for years and the information I got helped me a lot and this is how I pay back and give respect to other mongers who share their experiences and help others have happy times.

Note 2 : this guide is from my own experience in Kiev and I will try to hit all the right spots for a cheerful visit. However some points in this guide might be based on my personal preferences (we don't all like blondes) .

An objective summary about my trips:.

Thanks for sharing!

[DramaFree11]

I think it's just sometimes selfish people. In every forum here on the site you find guys asking questions and promising detailed reports after their trip but it almost never happens. These people have no interest in helping others. I have shared some contacts here in the past via PM without even a "thank you" in return.

Has nothing to do with being selfish, All about embarrassment. I would say 40 to 60%, I'm newbies fail drastically in Kiev. There's a reason why none of them post. People don't want to deal with the reality of you Kiev, They want to keep fantasy alive.