Kyiv

[Misc123]

Moms and sisters are a taboo in my experience.

When you say Taboo, do you mean the relationship with the original girl is destroyed as a result?

[MagicSheep74]

Hello guys,

I went to Kiev last year with a little preparations from this very informative and useful forum. I find the whole obsession with a Ukrainian women a little strange. I believe in the West we are bombarded with dating sites pics, instgram, photohopped Slavic beauties. I believe the Ukrainian women along the Russians are the most artificially created beauties in modern times. They are masters of portraying themselves as goddesses with are almost untouchable unless your a seriously rich. But remove the tight fitting clothes, heels, and all the make-up and you are just left with a daily attractive women. The Models are now on Instagram to find there wealthy suitors.

On my day to day around the main street and the city center I never say anyway above a 7/10 , but then step into the high end nightclubs such as Sky Bar, Avalon etc and you are faced with these model type women. Is it the same women you see day to day, yes of course it is. They are just standing in 6 Inch Heels and spent 3 hours in beauty saloon before coming out.

I was there 5 days, and got 2 of the best girls from mambu around to my hotel that I could find. 11 Mirrors Design Hotel. Girls looked a 9, but when arrived were actually a 7. Reasonable experience was given and was fairly satisfied with the experience overall, Although would not repeat- $10.

Shooters was good fun and found a 6 ft 2, Black Hair, Blued Stunner there. She spoke no English and we could not even negotiate a price.

Went to Rio twice. Both times took home as 8/10 back to my hotel. She was a lovely girl that used to be a Nurse and provide a great service - $300.

I did find ' Tinder and Travel Dates to be a useful resource for probably next time, Did not get the chance to fully utilize it, I believe my next stop will be Moscow, they have one very high end massage parlor and about 3 Strip Clubs with sex on the premises. Might also pop my head in Night Flight, although I believe its have its day.

I am live in the South of Spain, so I am kind of spoiled with easy no hassle sex in many of the giant clubs along the Costa Del Sol who are easily as beautiful I what I see here.

I reckon the Top Level Girls in Kiev, these mythical model type are either long gone, have local boyfriends, or holidays with rich guys who proposition them through there instgram account.

Happy New Year.

[Guntherus]

Moms and sisters are a taboo in my experience.

Yeah, I knew that it is a crazy plan, but sometimes it is the only way out. The mother is almost certainly going without sex for a year or more, so she's all the more a tempting conquest. Not that she's ugly, she has the body of a teenager.

[Riina]

Serious about the mom, too!? I think sit would be a bold move to bang them both, maybe together. Sisters what? Has anyone tried this before?

Moms and sisters are a taboo in my experience.

[Guntherus]

Sure if a guys going to pay for her Mom he maybe getting serious about her.

Serious about the mom, too!? I think sit would be a bold move to bang them both, maybe together. Sisters what? Has anyone tried this before?

[Russel4339]

I have been to Kiev before about 4-5 years ago and I am returning this spring (I will post some reports soon. Maybe outdated a little, but I had some very interesting experiences). I was curious what kind of response rate some of you are getting on Mamba. It appears most of these girls reply to 10-15% of their messages, and that seems to be accurate for every 10 messages I send, I get 1 or maybe 2 replies. But, what percentage of these women on this site are interested in PFP? 10% 75%? . How do you guys usually propose the offer (and how do you determine of they are interested in PFP in the first place). I had my IP address blocked for asking girls this question, and for sending some "copy paste messages". Apparently they lift the ban after a 2-3 months since I can now get back on and set up a new account from my IP. I want to be more cautious this time, but I am curious what you guys think. I didn't know of Mamba on my last visit, but I want to dabble with it before I go. My trip is still 4 months away, but I plan to have more contacts than I can possibly meet on this visit so I am spending limited time with my pants on! Ha.

Thanks.

I have found that many of the professional ladies on Mamba will not answer messages where the meeting cannot be that day (or the next, maximum). This makes it difficult to plan ahead for meetings in several weeks or months. (This has gotten worse over the past several years).

How to tell if they want PFP? Look for women looking for sponsorship. Or looking for sex and meetings but not seeking relationships or marriages. Or women who are looking for men of all ages. Look for women who just have that slutty, P4 P, seductive smile. It ain't that hard.

As to proposing things, I just suggest that we meet. If they think meeting is a good idea, I suggest we meet at my hotel. By this time, the lady will have made it clear that she meets only for monetary renumeration. And then you can establish a price. (Always good to do upfront. Surprises are no fun).

Good luck. Would be interesting to know if you can make legit contacts 4 months out.

[AColonizer]

Just for your information, I have attached a picture of the bestseller sex tools on sale in the Arab health exhibition in Dubai on the 30 January: I guess Muslim men are real lovers with our sweet Slavic women. Ha ha ha.

[AColonizer]

What about the blocking of Mamba accounts, it depends by the luck, only: when a subscriber founds a disgruntled administrator, then everything is bad for him / her.

I have been to Kiev before about 4-5 years ago and I am returning this spring (I will post some reports soon. Maybe outdated a little, but I had some very interesting experiences). I was curious what kind of response rate some of you are getting on Mamba. It appears most of these girls reply to 10-15% of their messages, and that seems to be accurate for every 10 messages I send, I get 1 or maybe 2 replies. But, what percentage of these women on this site are interested in PFP? 10% 75%? . How do you guys usually propose the offer (and how do you determine of they are interested in PFP in the first place). I had my IP address blocked for asking girls this question, and for sending some "copy paste messages". Apparently they lift the ban after a 2-3 months since I can now get back on and set up a new account from my IP. I want to be more cautious this time, but I am curious what you guys think. I didn't know of Mamba on my last visit, but I want to dabble with it before I go. My trip is still 4 months away, but I plan to have more contacts than I can possibly meet on this visit so I am spending limited time with my pants on! Ha.

Thanks.

[BellBottomsDJ]

I have been to Kiev before about 4-5 years ago and I am returning this spring (I will post some reports soon. Maybe outdated a little, but I had some very interesting experiences). I was curious what kind of response rate some of you are getting on Mamba. It appears most of these girls reply to 10-15% of their messages, and that seems to be accurate for every 10 messages I send, I get 1 or maybe 2 replies. But, what percentage of these women on this site are interested in PFP? 10% 75%? . How do you guys usually propose the offer (and how do you determine of they are interested in PFP in the first place). I had my IP address blocked for asking girls this question, and for sending some "copy paste messages". Apparently they lift the ban after a 2-3 months since I can now get back on and set up a new account from my IP. I want to be more cautious this time, but I am curious what you guys think. I didn't know of Mamba on my last visit, but I want to dabble with it before I go. My trip is still 4 months away, but I plan to have more contacts than I can possibly meet on this visit so I am spending limited time with my pants on! Ha.

Thanks.

[YellowPaul]

When moms come into the picture, usually the sponsor is likely to marry the girl and is no longer perceived as a walking ATM. Just my experience.

I agree with you up to a point.

Sure if a guys going to pay for her Mom he maybe getting serious about her.

However all her pictures that she posts are never with her sponsor (I guess he is the cameraman too). Meaning in typical Ukrainian fashion she is keeping her options open.

[Riina]

Here how bad things are now as in the sponsor game in Ukraine. I noticed my current GF had her good friend in Saint Marteen currently on her Instagram. Turns out her boyfriend also flew out the girls Mother as well as her.

I was like.... Mother??

WTF. Talk about inflation. The blond is probably 9 body wise and 7 face to averages in my to a 8 in my books. I figure the guy must be a least 60 if he's paying for family members to tag along and she's late 20's single Mom type.

My girl is a relative newbie compared to her friend as I'm her first foreigner and she has never been on a plane or gone outside the country.

I told my girl instead of bringing her mother next we meet.....I might consider her bringing her younger sister who is 10 years younger and hotter. She never mentions anymore about bringing anyone anymore.

When moms come into the picture, usually the sponsor is likely to marry the girl and is no longer perceived as a walking ATM. Just my experience.

[YellowPaul]

It's been said before but I wanted to add my comments to all those previous posts that have complained about prices and professionalism in Kiev and about how all the best girls are now no longer in Kiev. Having just returned from Ukraine here are some examples of how the girls have become or are in the process of becoming hardcore jet setting escorts with prices to match:

Example 1.

Took a really lovely young lady back to my hotel who was sold to me as not being very experienced in escorting. She was indeed sweet and gentle but as I went down to dine on her why I couldn't help but observe that her arse bore all the signs of a well traveled passage. Talking later she told me that she had not visit Western Europe but had been to Emirates and Dubai! I wonder why?

Example 2.

Got a nice enough girl from Mamba who told me how she had started out in Shooters and was now saving up for a visa.

Example 3.

In a restaurant when I couldn't help but hear an attractive hooker tell her client how she had just got back from Barbados.

Example 4.

Took an attractive lady in her mid twenties out from Buddha Bar who told me that my 5 star hotel was not a patch on the one she had stayed at in Oman.

This is new reality. All the girls now know that the going rate is at least $100 and many of the girls have already sampled the delights of Dubai and expect to be paid accordingly.

In this new reality us old timers are forced back on to our existing contacts. For those newbies I suggest you contact our favorite pimp Andrei to show you the ropes. PM me if you want his details.

Anyone hoping to stumble on a hidden gem in a bar / club these days is delusional.

Here how bad things are now as in the sponsor game in Ukraine. I noticed my current GF had her good friend in Saint Marteen currently on her Instagram. Turns out her boyfriend also flew out the girls Mother as well as her.

I was like.... Mother??

WTF. Talk about inflation. The blond is probably 9 body wise and 7 face to averages in my to a 8 in my books. I figure the guy must be a least 60 if he's paying for family members to tag along and she's late 20's single Mom type.

My girl is a relative newbie compared to her friend as I'm her first foreigner and she has never been on a plane or gone outside the country.

I told my girl instead of bringing her mother next we meet.....I might consider her bringing her younger sister who is 10 years younger and hotter. She never mentions anymore about bringing anyone anymore.

[HugeDickMan]

Sorry, but this is a simple strip club and no disco. It's also called "Club Darling". There are 100% professional girls. It has nothing to do with a disco and a "real" pick-up.

Lazy day for your "Andrei". It seems that he has no real amateur girls if he "must" bring you to a public and well-known brothel.

I know it's a *****house dude, just saying what its name on the door is. Maybe Andrei brought me there because it was close to our meeting place and based on my description he thought I'd like some girls there. I was happy with my pick anyway, she looked like the girl Captain America kissed in Civil War but younger and Eastern European. In fact I screwed her once, bought her a drink and sat with her for awhile, then screwed her again, this time longer. The managers of the club are both nice ladies, no pressure and pretty too, I gave them both a hug before leaving.

[Riina]

Sorry, but this is a simple strip club and no disco. It's also called "Club Darling". There are 100% professional girls. It has nothing to do with a disco and a "real" pick-up.

Lazy day for your "Andrei". It seems that he has no real amateur girls if he "must" bring you to a public and well-known brothel.

Sounds like Andreii is a tout for Darling or some other establishment. A pimp that brings his clients to somebody else's brothel doesn't makes sense. "Yes Mr. Pimp come into my place and steal my girls".

It's better to say he's an adult guide with no talent to find a girl.

Have a great day!
Riina

[Misterxxx]

Darling Disco.

Andrei...

Sorry, but this is a simple strip club and no disco. It's also called "Club Darling". There are 100% professional girls. It has nothing to do with a disco and a "real" pick-up.

Lazy day for your "Andrei". It seems that he has no real amateur girls if he "must" bring you to a public and well-known brothel.