Kyiv

[JohnTodd]

Visited Dolly's Massage today in Kiev. Was offered 3 ladies today all 3 were solid 9's.

I choose Elina, early 20's 32C. 26 32, 100 lbs, redish brown hair, very pretty.

The fee was 600 griva or about $75.

The service was excellent, a massage for 20 min then a tit screw, after completion, another massage for 45 min, then another great ending. Touching was allowed, but no penitration. The session lasted about 1 hr 15 min. I would recommend Dolly's.

[Sean EZ]

Sorry couldn't help commenting after seeing this post. I think London UK might be the best place to get working Indian girls. I had zero luck (though I know it's possible) to get P4P in Mumbai.

They were the most obvious foreigners in the bar. Short with very stocky physiques. They lasted about 15 minutes before hitting the exit.

[Climaxnow]

That was tourist right? There are none Indian working girls?

Best regards.

Owarunner.

In Kiev 11-13 October.

They were the most obvious foreigners in the bar. Short with very stocky physiques. They lasted about 15 minutes before hitting the exit.

[OwaRunner]

Last night at Vodka Bar, a group of of Indian girls walked in. The Ukrainian girls gave them such hard stares of WTF you doing in here. Nothing from the Ukrainian guys. It was interesting because some of the Ukrainian girls seemed sweet and all of a sudden you could see the hatred in their eyes. Surprising, not expecting that.

That was tourist right? There are none Indian working girls?

Best regards.

Owarunner.

In Kiev 11-13 October.

[Climaxnow]

Last night at Vodka Bar, a group of of Indian girls walked in. The Ukrainian girls gave them such hard stares of WTF you doing in here. Nothing from the Ukrainian guys. It was interesting because some of the Ukrainian girls seemed sweet and all of a sudden you could see the hatred in their eyes. Surprising, not expecting that.

[Climaxnow]

I'm having a drink right now and am not sure if I'm drunk, but I'd like to understand what Climaxnow is saying here correctly. What do you mean by "subway"? The girl didn't drop to her knees in a running metro, did she? I don't think the Kiev metro runs at 4 am, so by "subway" you mean an underground walkway that you often see in Kiev? I remember one that led to the River Palace from the Dnipro metro station. It was scary. In any case it is still hard to believe that that kind of action took place in an underground walkway. It reminds me of some French movie I've seen years ago.

The underground passage immediately at the corner of Caribbean. No, she did not drop her knees on hard concrete, my point was she dropped with out hesitation when I offered the money. Not really much of a conquest, she was a prostitute and we were alone in a tunnel at 4 am.

This was actually a poor decision on my part. Before I entered the passage, I noticed the streets were completely empty and figured I had about 5 minutes before someone else could walk in. I already knew what was going to happen in there. But really, I live 5 minutes from Caribbean. I should have walked her up to my apartment and played with her in my foyer and not risk a militsia shakedown.

[Uoykucf]

Dear Roll Buzz and Clement,

You know, what I am going to do for you guys.

I am going to even out what you refered to as "overpayment" by giving her only 200 when she comes tomorrow.

But I have a feeling she's not going to like it.

Let's see what happens.

Cheers.

She came back yesterday afternoon, I did what you said to keep the price down for everyone; so I gave her 200 this time to even it out. She stayed for 2 and 1/2 hours and this time was even better, real GFE and porn star sex right out of the movies. But guess what she wasn't happy and she said there won't be next time! She complained: 'You sexed me and blah blah. ' It was very unpleasant.

Well, she did suck my cock on the wing chair, and I did f*ck her on the huge boardroom dining table, on the love seat, on the sectional couch in the livingroom and ended up in one of the three bedrooms with more f*cking and DFK, with ending right out of the porno movies.

Probably can't see her anymore, but I did even it out with last time in order to keep the prices down for you guys. I can only hope everyone else on this board will do the same to keep the prices down for all you guys out there in the years to come.

Cheers

[Uoykucf]

Hi Roll Buzz,

Thanks.

These girls are tricky.

I've a lot yet learn from you guys.

I RTFF all the way back to 2008 before I took this trip;

So I'the like to think I know what I am doing but sometimes the little head gets in the way.

Cheers

Hi Uoykucf. Given this new information, I revise my remark. I confess that my ass got burned once by sending girls money in advance. Same by giving bonus payment after meeting. This really does nothing but spoil the girl's attitude. There are better ways to make her feel special and grateful to you. Let's say the girl needed money for rent, and as soon as she has enough, she will stop seeing you. Time for her is not so important as money. Better have her several times (like you now tell us you plan to do) , or refer you to another girl. And of course I am guilty of overpaying girls sometimes in the past. But never more. If she has agreed and seems happy with this agreement. But when negotiating the price, I always have the feeling that I get bad service. So, in the end, I think you handled correctly. Enjoy your time! Roll B.

[Sorbonne]

I had a fun time at Caribbean Club last night. Good show and the place was filled with older guys, some young hotties, and many milfs. What I did not understand was the fact most girls were obviously prostitutes but made no direct effort to solicit themselves. It was as if they were there to have fun and not look for customers. All the girls were very unguarded and open to talking to anybody. Anyone care to explain to me why no direct selling in there? Is this club code they are following or this is where these girls go to mostly have fun?

So it's 4:00 am and I decide to leave. I got really turned on because many of the girls were clearly drunk on the dance floor. Super hot early twenty something with really short skirt starts dancing with her panties completely exposed. Gave me quite the boner. As I walk out to the street, I saw to two milfs (both younger than thirty) from the dance floor walking towards the subway. I approached and told them I was scared to walk alone in there and they both took my hands and we walked together. I am not a fan of milfs but both girls towered over me in there heels and both were drunk and very feminine with girly voices. Yes they were prostitutes and the conversation quickly turned to if I we could all sleep together. Oddly, not for that night, they wanted to meet up another day. So here we are all by ourselves in a subway and my hormones just started raging as I started touching there asses. I don't know what got into to me but I pulled out 400 grivna and asked one of the girls if she would suck my dick. She dropped straight to her knees and grabbed my dick like she wanted it more than me. I grabbed the other one and played with her stomach and boobs while the other one was bobbing up and down on my dick. I blew my load into her mouth in about three minutes. Caribbean Club was good time.

I'm having a drink right now and am not sure if I'm drunk, but I'd like to understand what Climaxnow is saying here correctly. What do you mean by "subway"? The girl didn't drop to her knees in a running metro, did she? I don't think the Kiev metro runs at 4 am, so by "subway" you mean an underground walkway that you often see in Kiev? I remember one that led to the River Palace from the Dnipro metro station. It was scary. In any case it is still hard to believe that that kind of action took place in an underground walkway. It reminds me of some French movie I've seen years ago...

[Member #4491]

H.

I found after reading so many post. Compare to South East Asia. For mongers. Ukraine, Russia, EE seems to be a tough environment for that soft touch and love. Its more business like with less emotions compared to the post one reads in Thailand thread. Where its more personal and emotions involved. Even though I read very very less scams compared to Thailand where one gets pushed and ends up dead in the end.

I feel even though SEA may be far easier to get laid with more options and sheer number of women due to population. Ukraine seems more honest with less scams.

I read somewhere that only Honduras was more lethal to US tourists than Thailand, but traffic is the number one problem. Traffic, diseases, drowning, drugs or night club fights seems to be the biggest problems if you look into statistics covering the death of tourists. Scams is not so easily investigated by looking into statistics. If we consider the whole globe, I passed 100 trips where the hobby was pursued in some form. Sometimes just for an hour or two, and sometimes for several weeks. Many here are way more well traveled than me, and will know more about many destinations in the world, but I do absolutely not recognize my experiences at all in your statements, Starchild. Thailand is just so simple and convenient. You pay, they smile. For sure they are business oriented, but they are also pragmatic and implement a system that works reasonably well for everyone. Killing, hurting or scamming the customers is not an intended part of that system. I think you should visit these places and make up your own first hand opinion, Starchild. In any case, I am off to Asia again, so over and out on this topic.

All the best from Barba.

[Member #4491]

I went on Wednesday and did not inquire about tables. Bar stools were available for anybody that just wanted to sit. I think they banned smoking in clubs over a year ago in Kiev.

We had a bottle of wine and a shisha / galian / waterpipe and sat at a table. The table itself did not cost us anything.

B

[Member #4491]

I had a fun time at Caribbean Club last night. Good show and the place was filled with older guys, some young hotties, and many milfs. What I did not understand was the fact most girls were obviously prostitutes but made no direct effort to solicit themselves. It was as if they were there to have fun and not look for customers. All the girls were very unguarded and open to talking to anybody.

Great report CN. And what a great end to your evening at Caribbean. The night when I was there with Mr Knight, there where few guests, but the atmosphere was pretty much the same. The WGs danced and enjoyed with us, themselves and just about anyone that was up for it. No angry birds there. Maybe it is the Latin music?

Starchild, I know very well your Indian and IMHO you are full of it with these posts. LOL. No offense meant. I just have a totally different opinion from my 50+ trips to the countries you mentioned. Let us just drop it and agree to disagree.

Barba

[OwaRunner]

Yes, I liked

Not bad, what was the price?

BR.

OwaRunner

[Guntherus]

Hi Uoykucf. Given this new information, I revise my remark. I confess that my ass got burned once by sending girls money in advance. Same by giving bonus payment after meeting. This really does nothing but spoil the girl's attitude. There are better ways to make her feel special and grateful to you. Let's say the girl needed money for rent, and as soon as she has enough, she will stop seeing you. Time for her is not so important as money. Better have her several times (like you now tell us you plan to do) , or refer you to another girl. And of course I am guilty of overpaying girls sometimes in the past. But never more. If she has agreed and seems happy with this agreement. But when negotiating the price, I always have the feeling that I get bad service. So, in the end, I think you handled correctly. Enjoy your time! Roll B.

It's not an overpayment really.

Orginally we agreed on 800;

Then I negotiate the price down to 500.

At the end of the meeting, I decide to give her 800.

I guess my little head was still thinking.

[DoctorOral]

Yes, I liked