Kyiv

[Irish Lad]

Hello all,

Please excuse but I can't figure out how to "quote" from other threads.

Hecker wrote:-

"I disagree that 50% of girls in clubs are available. If it were so, all short time travellers to Kiev would score freebies and this does not happen. Actually it does not happen anymore since 2004. When I go to a club I hit on every hottie, so I know how high the actual chances are. I saw seldom foreigners pull girls in clubs. And looks do matter in Ukraine. You will see seldom an ugly man with a beautiful girl as it often happens in the West or in other countries like Czech Republic."

1. I believe 50% of girls in clubs are available, for free or at a price. I’ve always felt any single girl is available all over the world. I of course could be wrong but maybe it is this belief that boosts my confidence and success rate. It’s all a game anyway. Either way, my point was that sex is easy and cheap in Kiev and this reality should be your trump card when hunting in clubs. I was a frequent short term traveler to Kiev before moving here last year and my success rate was 60% in clubs but YMMV. Having said this I remember certain patterns that emerged for me back then. I never pulled the day I arrived. I never pulled on a Saturday night. I never pulled in 112.

2. Just because a percentage of girls are available, doesn’t mean a short term traveler to Kiev will pull. There are many reasons for this but 2 important ones are too much alcohol taken and bad attitude. If I have drunk too much I have almost no chance of pulling. Being drunk means "loser" to Ukrainian girls. The same for my bad mood days and the days when my coat ticket number is 13. This is life, but I still believe that anyone’s success rate is 10 times higher here than in most other countries. It’s also a question of being comfortable in whatever environment you’re in. A fellow forum member, who is also a friend, has never in his life pulled in a club, yet is scoring 2/3 times a week from making dates in cafes and inviting them to his home.

3. I have never been told by a girl in Ukraine that looks are important to her. Good shoes rank 10 places higher in my opinion. I see supermodels all the time with ugly guys 30 years older than them in Arena bar. When I see this situation in less financially obvious circumstances I think of the following reasons:- She loves him, he doesn’t drink too much, he dresses her better than he dresses himself, he doesn’t cheat too often, he works damn hard to provide for her or he would kill to protect her.

4. My taste in girls is very wide ranging so “hotties” to you may not mean the same to me and vica versa. Although there might be a high percentage of 9’s and 10’s in a club, I sometimes feel in the mood for a 6 with massive tits. I pointed out a girl to a friend of mine who has lived here for 14 years in a club one night saying “she’s my favourite here” and his reply was “you’re guaranteed to fuck her”. I asked why he thought so, and in between laughs he said “because no one else in Ukraine would”.

Strange!

IL

[Irish Lad]

What? You did not get her to bring her friend too?


These girls who come from the provinces, you don't even pay their train fare?
No shopping? No clubs? Just dinner, drinks and fuck? Amazing!

I didn't get her to bring her friend, maybe next time.

Yes, I paid for the train fare, see post #789 in photo gallery section. I always do.

Didn't go shopping and wasn't asked to take her shopping and didn't offer. I have bought gifts before, but not often.

I take them to clubs some of the time but not always. Didn't last weekend and didn't tonight with this weekends visitor from Poltava. Went to restaurant, she didn't eat, came home, fucked and she's sleeping while I write this.

Amazing?

[Prosal]

No shopping? No clubs? Just dinner, drinks and fuck? Amazing!

Got a nice and cute stripper in Chisinau for totally free, not even a dinner (she always had dinner at home before our meetings). She costed me just a few drinks when we met in some cocktails bar at 9/10pm before she went working in Bacardi (a strip club in Botanica neighborhood), and taxi fares. A super nice and humble girl with very few materialistic expectations. She would get off of work at 5am, SMSed to see if I was available, and if I was, would go to my apartment, drink a few beers, talk a bit, bang me, sleep, re-bang, and then leave around 1pm. No questions asked.

Talk about a nice situation. Makes you very relaxed in that even if I went to a non-pro disco or had a date with a non-pro and say didn’t succeed that night, I always had my cute stripper to fall back on in the morning.

Zippy banged her friend, also stripper in Bacardi, for free. A nice and good-looking girl indeed.

Don't know if this could happen in Kiev. But this happens in Chisinau.

[Uscot]

Was recently in Kiev for first time - very interesting city, but did not get a chance to check out the nightlife unfortunately. Security guys at Dnipro Hotel asked if i wanted female company for the night for 100 USD - anybody know about this service?

[Gentleman Travel]

Anyway, a few days later a girl from the same city kept looking at my profile so I wrote saying "why look but not write? " She replied and invited herself to Kiev. 2 minutes later my mobile goes. Original girl asking why I had invited her friend. I replied "you don’t come so I find someone else". She said "I’ll arrive tomorrow". She didn’t, but 2 days later she calls saying I have ticket I arrive 8. 15pm. I said "No, you said yesterday, someone else is coming today, don’t come".

What? You did not get her to bring her friend too?

I apologized but said she was"blah blah" and not to be wasting my time. She apologized and said "I can come Friday? " I said "yes, but only for 1 night". She came, we ate, we fucked several times, she went. She wants to come back. Now, to answer your question. I have no fucking idea why!

Pulling in clubs here is very much a game of poker when you hold all the Aces. It’s when you forget this concept and revert to western thinking that your success rate falls. I try to always remember that I can get laid for less than the price of a dinner...

These girls who come from the provinces, you don't even pay their train fare?
No shopping? No clubs? Just dinner, drinks and fuck? Amazing!

[Alphamale]

This site immediately asks for $50 reg fee via Paypal. Makes me suspicious.

Any dating sites with free-trial periods for Russian/Eastern European beauties?

One Wing Low, I have used this site with no problems, One of the guys from here set it all up and his assistant runs it very well.
Makes it so much easier.

[Doctor_Skank]

This site immediately asks for $50 reg fee via Paypal. Makes me suspicious.

Any dating sites with free-trial periods for Russian/Eastern European beauties?

Most dating sites are free of charge, like omen.ru, love.mail.ru or destiny.com.ua. However the link I posted is not a dating site per se, but rather a service that helps you navigate and communicate in the various free dating sites. It's primarily a method of helping those who don't speak Russian or don't have the time to use the site and communicate with both pro and non-pro women. It might be worth the $50 if it gets you laid...

[One Wing Low]

This site immediately asks for $50 reg fee via Paypal. Makes me suspicious.

Any dating sites with free-trial periods for Russian/Eastern European beauties?

Wallyally,
need further assistance on dating via the dating sites, you might want to try:

www.datinghelponline.net

[Doctor_Skank]

Dear all.

So much advise on the site. How can I dial 1045 with my ukraine sim from outside the Ukraine? Advice would be appriciated.

Info on Lybid: the hotel has status "green" before 11 pm - afterwards, all girls do need to check in. Book double room (and pay for it too) if you want to advoid any hussle.

I normally deposit a room key with the girl and she will follow - giving security my name and roomnumber. If I call in a girl, I just give that information on the phone and deposit the key on the left side of the entrance somewhere at the (unused) terrace.

Hope that helps.

Wallyally,

Well not sure how it is in every country, but I just dial 1045 whenever I am in Europe... no prefix, nothing. Goes through and profile gets boosted. If you need further assistance on dating via the dating sites, you might want to try:

www.datinghelponline.net

I agree about the double room, that's good advice. I always book a double... often it costs the same as a single or only $10-15 more.... and you can have any guest you want there, she may just have to register at the desk. If a girl is coming over, make sure she has her national passport.

[Uke Boy]

Frankie,

The good news is that you are not another Gia pimp. However, from the rest of us here, please do go away.

Your site is nothing but a ripoff of other local Ukraine sites. Not only that but I have had the pleasure of meeting a number of the ladies and on your site much of the information that you have is so wrong as to be useless.

You are nothing but a thief, an incompetent ripoff from other sites.

Gentlemen of this forum, you are better off using the local Ukraine sites, this one from Frankie is a waste of bandwith.

[DoctorOral]

Frank,

We have seen many agencies and site on Kiev - the one you posted perfectly fits in the rip-off-total-scam scenery, so please just leave it out of here.

Thank you!

[Frankkiev]

http://www.megateens.info

They have many nice girls there on the site.

Greetings

Frank

[DoctorOral]

Dear all.

So much advise on the site. How can I dial 1045 with my ukraine sim from outside the Ukraine? Advice would be appriciated.

Info on Lybid: the hotel has status "green" before 11 pm - afterwards, all girls do need to check in. Book double room (and pay for it too) if you want to advoid any hussle.

I normally deposit a room key with the girl and she will follow - giving security my name and roomnumber. If I call in a girl, I just give that information on the phone and deposit the key on the left side of the entrance somewhere at the (unused) terrace.

Hope that helps.

[MarkABC]

[CodeWord140][/url]]Dear friends!

I stayed in Ukraine for 3 weeks, It was so nice trip.

and now I'm in Lybid, Kiev.

Anyone who know how can I meet some ukrainian girl near here?

Is there anyone who can answer for my ask?

Thanks friend!

Maybe I need call to GIA

(Is lybid let a girl to my room?)

I have been in Lybid hotel in Kiev and I had no problem to bring back girls from River Palace, Moda bar, Club 111 (who was located just next to the hotel)...

During the day (afternoon) we just walked straight to the elevators. During the night (evening and night) the girls had to register at the reception but I was not asked any extra money as I booked a double room - single use.

[Hecker]

You can upgrade to VIP through web money if you buy a card in web money and put its number on VIP registration. However you need o know russian to do it cause both webmoney and resistration in VIP are in russian.