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11-24-20 01:57 #21145
Posts: 26Last nights in Kyiv
Went to Harem stip club, it's loaded with young beauties, may be around 30. Entrance was 500 uah, however you can sometimes get half price on slower days, try to let them approach you near the door inside arena.
Out of many apts I liked one on mechnykova st 6. You get thorough massage and good oral before sex. In my 2 times there, the girls worked and earned the amount, 1600 uah each time. The girl selection is moderate; you can find prettier girls elsewhere so its balance of beauty vs service / attitude.
I had mixed experience with mamba. I did find a student from mamba and had session with her twice, in fact she is the only girl I repeated ever. I also found an 25 year old Arabic girl who has a day job but she sometimes work to earn extra cash. Lot of hit and miss on mamba.
Comparatively SA girls are more expensive and high quality. I learnt from one girl that they have to pay 600 uah to get listed on SA. I took 3 separate girls out for dinner from SA. Only 1 I was able to lure back home.
Weekend Quarantine:
Kyiv has weekend quarantine, and daily after 8 pm. Meaning restaurants, bars, shops everything is supposed to be shut. Half or most strip clubs still work, using backdoors or quick entry thru front door. Dubai restaurant in arena also works but has 500 uah minimum per person spending requirement. There are few other restaurants still open during quarantine.
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11-23-20 05:14 #21144
Posts: 623Originally Posted by Kozerog [View Original Post]
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11-23-20 02:06 #21143
Posts: 623Originally Posted by Riina [View Original Post]
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11-22-20 19:12 #21142
Posts: 709Originally Posted by ExpatLover [View Original Post]
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11-22-20 18:52 #21141
Posts: 242Originally Posted by ExpatLover [View Original Post]
After talking a bit, if she seems like a good prospect, invite her to your apartment. Before she can accept/refuse the invitation, explain that you are an older foreigner and tourist, and as such, it would shameful for both of you (you = cheapskate, girl = naive fool) if she visited you and didn't get a nice gift afterwards, but of course you don't want to insult her by discussing the proposed gift unless she is interested. If she is interested, state clearly how much you will pay, what services you absolutely need, and then explain clearly that money will be counted out and placed on table when you emerge from bathroom (I assume you take your wallet into bathroom) and remain there until she leaves, and that she will not be forced to do anything she isn't comfortable with and can leave the apartment early if she wants, but in that case she doesn't get the gift.
Each guy has to figure out his own way of stating the above expectations and procedures, based on how much bluntness the girl can take. To avoid problems, avoid ambiguity. That is, explain everything very clearly upfront so the girl has no excuse for not understanding.
I'm leaving out a lot of steps. Maybe you need several dates before inviting to your apartment. Maybe you don't want to discuss cash amounts amd services and not define "gift" or conditions under which gift will be given. My thinking is that, assuming the girl is interested in you without money, adding 2000 UAH sweetens the deal and makes her very careful about shit-testing you, wasting your time, etc.
I went the opposite way, and converted an escort to a sugar baby. I took a two week break from her recently, without explaining why, after accidentally on purpose letting her glance at a Viber message with smiley from my pretty young Russian instructor. Now that we are back together, certain disagreeable attitude I noticed in her previously has completely disappeared. Maybe she missed my golden dick or my super seduction skills during that two week break. Or maybe it was the 5000 uah I give her each visit.
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11-22-20 18:09 #21140
Posts: 4Anyone know if the clubs like darling Rio etc are open? Always enjoy killing a few hours during my visits. Thank you!
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11-22-20 14:56 #21139
Posts: 4759May be you have to come to the basics: how to seduce a woman, 99.9% of the girls are not prostitutes so money will not work.
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11-22-20 12:58 #21138
Posts: 64Originally Posted by LuckyNuts [View Original Post]
At some point you will develop a feeling if she do P4 P or not. Also, she will address the topic by herself. Don't worry Besides there is still the chance that you won't have to pay for it. .
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11-22-20 10:50 #21137
Posts: 499Originally Posted by LuckyNuts [View Original Post]
Mamba is filled with scammers and other bad shit, but it is working for me. Time and effort. But I am living in the city alone with nothing better to do than work on the hunt. I enjoy spending time finding the gem, but most people don't have time to spend a couple of hours a day on hunting. I mostly don't have the interest in what apartment girls have to offer.
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11-22-20 03:44 #21136
Posts: 623Originally Posted by Jojab007 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by VinDici [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Stevie69 [View Original Post]
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11-22-20 00:23 #21135
Posts: 332VPN needed?
I read in the Dnipro thread that Tinder and maybe Mamba cannot be accessed in Ukraine unless you have a non-Russian VPN. Can anyone confirm or deny? And explain? Thanks.
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11-21-20 23:16 #21134
Posts: 332A law of nature.
You are probably right. The top few girls get the vast majority of the attention. It is like a law of nature.
However, the point remains. The top girls, the ones you want, have likely already seen a few customers that day. If you pick the ugliest one, you might be her first customer all week. In any case, the bed has already been used several times that day. I just prefer secretaries, nurses, cashiers and retail girls, bank tellers who work independently, get all the money themselves, and agree to meet at my place.
Originally Posted by Misterxxx [View Original Post]
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11-21-20 20:49 #21133
Posts: 324Still in Kyiv for a short while.
Originally Posted by GamerGuy [View Original Post]
I've only booked outcalls to the hotel, 2 indies and an agency (or Salon as they say in Ukraine) girl so far in my 3 days. I'm staying in a small boutique hotel, and they don't give a fuck if I have girls over, they are business focused pure and simple. I even asked the receptionists to speak to escorts to guide them to the hotel (it has an awkward location and so far no one has managed to find it with some further assistance, including my initial cabbie) I'll write a full report once the trip is finished.
One caveat, my tastes are not in line with what other mongers usually go for, I prefer older BBWs types, although I do vary my tastes somewhat. The 2 indies were 100% older BBWs and certainly the type of escort, many others on this forum would turn away.
The agency girl was a plain MILF next door, however I must say that particular agency is great. The pictures they sent were accurate, they quoted me a price for the services I wanted, and the escort performed everything exactly to my specifications, no cheating or quibbling. The price they quoted was what I paid and not a penny more. Honest and reliable, which is not something I've experienced from agencies before. I tend to exclusively book indies, however my lack of Ukrainian language skills is hampering my efforts, it is taking considerable effort to book indies and when all is said and done, I'm saving maybe $25 compared to just going with this agency I tried.
Those who have been mongering for some time know the game of asking for kissing or CIM, paying extra for this, and then the girl claiming no knowledge, or that she never does this and they shouldn't have agreed before etc etc. It's not the money that bothers me when this happens, I just don't like being played for a mug. Which is why I was overjoyed when the agency girl performed to expectations.
I will continue the indie hunt, but this agency will be a solid plan be if things don't go as planned.
I have an indie lined up tomorrow afternoon, so hoping that works out. I've been lucky so far and not been ripped off, let's see if my luck holds out a little longer.
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11-21-20 17:59 #21132
Posts: 324Originally Posted by LuckyNuts [View Original Post]
I'm Kiev for a few more days, could you please share via any numbers of interest. I have purchased a subscription.
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11-21-20 17:11 #21131
Posts: 26Originally Posted by GamerGuy [View Original Post]