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So would you say on a daily basis total 200 $: 100-150 $ for 1 girl and 50 $+ for food, drink, clubs, taxi / metro??

To answer your questions more directly:

$50 for food and drink is a bare minimum, that happens only when I stock the fridge and eat / drink at home during marathons or do Puzata Hata. Otherwise, - I pay for the girls when we go out. Some refuse to eat at fast food. Some do not mind at all.

I eat alone 50/50, perhaps even less than 50%, so $10-20 for light breakfast for two, $20-40 for brunch, and $30-70 dinner with drinks.

Most expensive so far was $200 a night for me and 2 girls at Avalon (with frequent customer 10% discount), including Chivas Regal whiskey for favorite GF and 4 rounds of cocktails for all of us that made the other girl completely drunk. Pinnacle of the visit!

And the number above excludes lodging and airfare?

Correct. AirBnB is usually $50-$125 a night, including maid service every 3-4 days. It has been more like $50-75 a night for 1-2 bedroom lately.

How many hours do you figure on getting for that 100-150 $ from 1 girl, let alone 2 or 3? Definitely not GIA.

GIA and Rio prices are well known. Agency girls 1500-2000 UAH / hour, not higher. Never pay for extras, prefer getting them based on mutual consent- for free.

Freelancers are free or the cost of wining / dining / entertainment. MILFs - $100 total for 5-10 hours.

Going multiple days with the same semi-pro typically runs at $10/ hour considering gifts, collateral and sometimes an envelope upon her departure. Those girls I keep only if they are exceptional. One was dismissed at "Mandarin" for misbehaving and lack of forthcoming with BJs back at my residence.

And where will these numbers go in next 1 year, now that Ryanair will deliver 700,000+ tourists into Kiev / Lviv?

No idea about Lviv. 700 K / year is 2 K a day. Not sure if it significantly increases already existing competition for resources.

If UA joins EU, then all the prices will go up, and food quality will go down. Same for haircuts, real estate, etcetera.

But we can enjoy what is available nowadays.

[Riina]

$200 a day sounds about right with lodging, food, and a girl. It's a lot of money if you calculate a two week trip with loss of work. Most guys deep down are looking for relationships and not 2000 uah slam bam thank you mam meetings. Relationships take time and are hard to find. Chances are you'll spend many thousands all for illusion even if you stay awhile. Kiev is a ridiculously expensive mongering destination with a high risk of disappointment.

All the above said, the rewards can be amazing. I met this girl for nothing and she wanted me as a sponsor. Six months after I left Kiev, she was posting photos of herself in thousand a night Dubai hotel rooms.

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So would you say on a daily basis total 200 $: 100-150 $ for 1 girl and 50 $+ for food, drink, clubs, taxi / metro???

Misc123,

Apologies for somewhat patronizing tone in my previous message. Most of the Forum members, including you, already know more than enough, and I shouldn't have sounded condescending.

Tastes differ, so do expenses and modus operandi.

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So would you say on a daily basis total 200 $: 100-150 $ for 1 girl and 50 $+ for food, drink, clubs, taxi / metro??

And the number above excludes lodging and airfare?

How many hours do you figure on getting for that 100-150 $ from 1 girl, let alone 2 or 3? Definitely not GIA.

And where will these numbers go in next 1 year, now that Ryanair will deliver 700,000+ tourists into Kiev / Lviv?

Opinions anyone??

You try to plan, calculate and budget. Kiev is too diverse, meaning you should be more versatile.

I can walk most of the time, even for more than an hour to one destination. Or use metro-subway for 2 UAH single ride, or stay with the girl inside the whole day. Taxi shouldn't run more than 200-400 UAH a day. Maybe even 100-150 UAH for a simple round trip.

Food can be Puzata Hata for $20-30/ day with decent meal and even a beer, or $200/ night for a threesome at upscale restaurant, or $70-$200 for a good size (20-50 spoons) can of truly great caviar as aphrodisiac and 2-3-4 bottles of excellent local brut. Most of the ladies enjoy caviar.

Girls can range from a freebie to a $500-700/ day GIA, or 3-5 agency girls / day for $50-70-100/ hour just for myself or with friends, with occasional 2-hour engagement here and there. Run a spreadsheet to add up.

If you are on a tight budget then do not go to Kiev. It'll suck all of your money dry. No matter how much I had in the past for 2 days or 3 weeks, I always left with no more than $200-300 in my pocket and sometimes had to use ATM more than once.

One young beauty from River Palace back in the day didn't negotiate beforehand, and upon leaving asked for "at least $200!" I only had $177, and some of it was for taxi to KBP the same night. She exclaimed:

- Why is it always like that!

If you want to enjoy 1-2 pops a day for 1500-2000 UAH each without having prior established connections and minimize expenses then why bother with Kiev at all? You run a risk of not achieving much and leaving disappointed. I had few bad short visits to Kiev myself. Agencies are hit and miss. Same with Rio. I would kick out one girl utterly disappointed, then have the fuck of the century right after.

I do not hire limos or sponsor lavish after-parties ordering tables at Buddha-bar. Just as Rog123 said: budget $200-$500/ day.

[Misc123]

So would you say on a daily basis total 200 $: 100-150 $ for 1 girl and 50 $+ for food, drink, clubs, taxi / metro??

And the number above excludes lodging and airfare?

How many hours do you figure on getting for that 100-150 $ from 1 girl, let alone 2 or 3? Definitely not GIA.

And where will these numbers go in next 1 year, now that Ryanair will deliver 700,000+ tourists into Kiev / Lviv?

Opinions anyone??

Realistic assessment. Key quantifier here is "at least".

$200/ day for ladies and general expense = food + drink + transportation + entertainment, etcetera, - is not exactly budget in Kiev, but definitely not splurging. Hence few extra hundred to continue no matter the obstacles.

$50/ day would be slow. $300-$500+ is not unusual even without Rio / GIA.

"Kiev is not pocket friendly" (c) 2018 Riina.

[Visal]

I need your input here about what other website to use to contact semi pros.

Mamba and tinder are already being used by me.

[GDreams]

Around Arena is best.

Apartments are convenient and there are many good options, search on google. Stick to within one to 2 streets off Kreshatik and between Independence square and Bessarabska Rinok.

[SandyMed]

Do hotels in Kiev allow Girls. Which area are preferred and safe of course?

Most hotels allow girls in Kiev. You can check with hotel by calling them, but I have stayed in two good hotels and had faced no problem in inviting girls.

[DramaFree11]

Wow, we agree on something, you are correct about the budget.

Realistic assessment. Key quantifier here is "at least".

$200/ day for ladies and general expense = food + drink + transportation + entertainment, etcetera, - is not exactly budget in Kiev, but definitely not splurging. Hence few extra hundred to continue no matter the obstacles.

$50/ day would be slow. $300-$500+ is not unusual even without Rio / GIA.

"Kiev is not pocket friendly" (c) 2018 Riina.

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On my trips after airfare and lodging I like to have at least $200/ day for ladies and general expenses. Normally have a few extra hundred "in case of emergency break glass" if I strike out on social media or want a sure thing from Rio or Gia.

Realistic assessment. Key quantifier here is "at least".

$200/ day for ladies and general expense = food + drink + transportation + entertainment, etcetera, - is not exactly budget in Kiev, but definitely not splurging. Hence few extra hundred to continue no matter the obstacles.

$50/ day would be slow. $300-$500+ is not unusual even without Rio / GIA.

"Kiev is not pocket friendly" (c) 2018 Riina.

[Riina]

Which area are preferred and safe of course?

Around Arena is best.

[Hot Leo]

Do hotels in Kiev allow Girls. Which area are preferred and safe of course?

[Member #4722]

Any alternatives where I could meet pretty girls and make do with English in Ukraine?

What would you recommend?

All the opinions have been written about extensively in this thread.

[Member #4722]

I understand, thanks!

Any idea on what a good budget would be (in UAH) excluding airfare, presuming economy independent accommodation and meeting 2-3 girls for longer term during the stay?

On my trips after airfare and lodging I like to have at least $200/ day for ladies and general expenses. Normally have a few extra hundred "in case of emergency break glass" if I strike out on social media or want a sure thing from Rio or Gia.

[JohnDoe091]

Kiev is not pocket friendly.

Any alternatives where I could meet pretty girls and make do with English in Ukraine?

What would you recommend?