Kyiv

[Gunny822]

Dear all,

Hope I am posting my question properly and in the right place.

I recently joined the fourm, today to be exact. I have been a long time reader as a visitor. The site has been very informative for my trips through Europe and the Middle East. A lot of knowledge on this site.

Can anyone recommend a reasonable escort/GFE for Kiev. Or an english website. I am planning a short trip to blow off some steam in the near future, and was thinking Kiev. Have never been there.

I am considering one of the 48hr apartment, transport, and escort packages from Vodka Escorts. Has anyone here used them? Or would I be paying to much. The want 1400 euro for the 2 days. First problem is I only speak english.

Thanks

[Perolav]

I am tryiing to get a discussion going on the current situation in Kiev, but i guess you still think its the number 1 spot in europe?

Its an illusion that you can have girls wich are 8 to 10 on the scale for free at mamba, it aint happening. Time for all to get those feet on the ground and see what the situation really is. Even Prague surpasses Kiev these days both in looks, service and price.

What the hell are you talking about.

[Reiner Otto]

Maybe you will find that more UA girls will be heading to Germany to work in the FKK clubs, as a result of the new EU directive.

Which directive ? The request to the Schengen countries, to remove the processing fees for visa applications for UA citizens ?
Or the intention, to issue "test visa" (whatever that will mean) to UA citizens 2012 for the Soccer Championships ?

I think, you overhyped the EU directives a bit :-)

[Simex]

Would be great be if you could share the Polish houses in London for £70 per hour. I know a few around East and West London, the service is ok and girls are in the 5'6's for looks.

The hidden gems are the so called Students that come over during the summer and winter semester breaks for 2-3 months to earn a few bob before going back to study. I am a regular to a few that come over every 3-6 months and the looks are in the 8-9 cat. Will post some pics to prove it.

Actually there are many Polish Brothels in London, that are not advertised on Adult Work. Prices from £ 70 for one hour.

I don't think you will find any Ukrainian Brothels in London.

Visa issues for UA Nationals to enter the UK, is the Barrier..

Same for girls who advertise themselves as Russian.

They are usually either from Lithuania, Latvia, or Romania.

Advertising themselves as Russian, make them sound more exclusive.

Last week the EU issued a new directive on easing Visa requirements for citizens from Ukraine, Bosnia, India and Moldova.

But this only applies to countries in the EU, which are in the Shengen Visa Scheme.

The United Kingdom is not a member of this Scheme.

It operates its own Visa scheme for entry to the UK.

And if anything its going to be even harder for non EU citizens to get work, student Visa permits to come & work, study in the UK in the future.

Maybe you will find that more UA girls will be heading to Germany to work in the FKK clubs, as a result of the new EU directive.

[Curlyjoe]

as christmas times is coming closer and free time is available, i was preparing for a little stint to kiev again. after spending the usual hours on flirt i am not so sure if i will be going anymore. in my head kiev is ruined as a monger destination, period. the quality is not there anymore and i am not e cheap skate, but we just have to face it, paying 3-500 dollars for a couple of hours contributing to the payment for a new nokia vertu is just plane stupid in a country where a md makes 200 dollars a month.

i know many will say its lots af freebies to be had, sure there are, but how nice do they really look? i rather stay home and wank my pecker then put the effort in to fuck someone ugly for free.

theres hould be a warning sign for mongerings when all the restaurants in the city are asian/fusion with no direction at all, as this means they have no idea what is happening in the rest of the world. to go in and rep001ter the dollars like they were the last on earth have contributed to something wonderfull has become something shitty.

i guess its a bit late to feel sorry for the situation but kiev is official dead.

r.i.p
kiev
5th century - 2010
here lays the remains of once a great city where marvelous pussy could be had

what the hell are you talking about.

[Jojosun]

AC. Good report. It'd all about having fun and playing the game. I have been spending my free time in FKK Land and Poland. Your report really inspired me to take the plunge and hit Kiev this spring.

Let me know when you're in London and I'll hook you up with some Hot Ukranian and Polish Brothels in the City. Prices are at £100 per hour on Adult Work. PM me and I'll send you some hot pic's.

Simex.

Actually there are many Polish Brothels in London, that are not advertised on Adult Work. Prices from £ 70 for one hour.

I don't think you will find any Ukrainian Brothels in London.

Visa issues for UA Nationals to enter the UK, is the Barrier..

Same for girls who advertise themselves as Russian.

They are usually either from Lithuania, Latvia, or Romania.

Advertising themselves as Russian, make them sound more exclusive.

Last week the EU issued a new directive on easing Visa requirements for citizens from Ukraine, Bosnia, India and Moldova.

But this only applies to countries in the EU, which are in the Shengen Visa Scheme.

The United Kingdom is not a member of this Scheme.

It operates its own Visa scheme for entry to the UK.

And if anything its going to be even harder for non EU citizens to get work, student Visa permits to come & work, study in the UK in the future.

Maybe you will find that more UA girls will be heading to Germany to work in the FKK clubs, as a result of the new EU directive.

[Crocodilechik]

Guys,

Has anyone booked any of the female guides from this agency and do they offer more than just guide duties/translation etc?

Thanks

[Perolav]

as christmas times is coming closer and free time is available, i was preparing for a little stint to kiev again. after spending the usual hours on flirt i am not so sure if i will be going anymore. in my head kiev is ruined as a monger destination, period. the quality is not there anymore and i am not e cheap skate, but we just have to face it, paying 3-500 dollars for a couple of hours contributing to the payment for a new nokia vertu is just plane stupid in a country where a md makes 200 dollars a month.

i know many will say its lots af freebies to be had, sure there are, but how nice do they really look? i rather stay home and wank my pecker then put the effort in to fuck someone ugly for free.

theres hould be a warning sign for mongerings when all the restaurants in the city are asian/fusion with no direction at all, as this means they have no idea what is happening in the rest of the world. to go in and rep001ter the dollars like they were the last on earth have contributed to something wonderfull has become something shitty.

i guess its a bit late to feel sorry for the situation but kiev is official dead.

r.i.p
kiev
5th century - 2010
here lays the remains of once a great city where marvelous pussy could be had

[Simex]

AC - Good report......it'd all about having fun and playing the game. I have been spending my free time in FKK Land and Poland......your report really inspired me to take the plunge and hit Kiev this spring.

Let me know when you're in London and I'll hook you up with some Hot Ukranian and Polish Brothels in the City. Prices are at £100 per hour on Adult Work. PM me and I'll send you some hot pic's.

Simex.

Encouragements are always appreciated. I am sure ClimaxNow is entitled to his views and I do not mind constructive criticism. I am just waiting for someone to call me an idiot for spending over 9,000 UAH in 1 night to get the guide between the sheets and that even once. But I learned a long time ago that you cannot win them all. But at the end of the day she will be my long term investment.

I am a frequent visitor to Frankfurt and usually end up staying at the Flemmings Hotel located right across FKK palace. Never been to Berlin. But will try. Will be there again in Frankfurt in 6 weeks. Usually end up in Oase, Palace and sometimes even World.

I am leaving for Zurich in 2 days to meet this hot ukrainian model living in Switzerland but married. She says that she loves him but needs something a bit more attention. She is 26 and we have been in touch for the last 2 months. So just going to Switzerland to give her something that I believe she is craving for. She is very into me and I hoping that I will be the permanent fuck buddy. We have been planning a tentative trip in Jan to Bahamas but figured that we need to meet first to see the chemistry. She has a high paying job in the financial sector.

So I keeping my fingers crossed.

[Hedonist]

Well done! But even when if you call a local taxi company the standard quote to the airport from center is never less 120 grivnas. It is the same for locals and foreigners. I lived in Kiev for 2 years and the cheapest ride to the airport from the center I had was 100 grivnas...

This is one is reliable: http://www.fm-taxi.kiev.ua/include/en/index_en.php

Shanson Taxi is also OK. There are many more. Just google it up!

Your taxi ride to the airport for 80 gryvnas, won't be obtainable by any Tom, Dick, or Abdul heading to the Airport.

Perhaps with your local knowledge, you post some links for Taxi because, that can undercut the Taxi Fares to & from the airport paid by non UA mongers.

[HunterDave]

Thursday

Thursday morning I woke up with a strange feeling. I realized this was the first night I had ever been sleeping alone in Kiev. I prefer to spend the nights with the girls, so it was kind of unpleasant to wake up alone. I also believe morning sex is a great day to start the day, but not this day

Later this afternoon I was about to experience my first Mamba bait and switch. It happened to me before with girls from Top-models, but never with girls from Mamba. I had been corresponding with the girl for a week or so, which is shorter than usual, but still. I had absolutely no suspicion of a possible bait and switch, so I was very surprised when I met Katya. Should I have sent her away again? Yes. Did I overpay compared to the services I got (no DFK and only CBJ)? Yes. Do I regret? No. I expected one type of girl, but got another type which was also very much to my liking. Blond hair, nice body, big and very firm tits and shaved pussy. Despite of the CBJ, sex with her was great, especially cowgirl and doggy.

Services: Kissing, CBJ, COB

Damage: 115 USD (900 UAH) for 2 hours + 70 UAH for taxi

Value: Very good

At 6 pm I met with the possible freebie from Monday evening. We went to O'Briens Irish Pub, same place as Tuesday evening. I really like this place, especially because of the live music every night. Some Ukrainian band with a female lead singer was playing this evening, mostly Rock 'n' Roll.

Around midnight we went back to my apartment. I didn't ask if she wanted to stay for the night, since I could feel it was too soon. First base, that's all. Around 2 pm she was on her way home in a cab.

Friday

Friday noon I met with another possible freebie. We had lunch together and went for a walk in a nearby park afterwards. On my previous trips I've only been meeting with P4P's, but on this trip I had decided to invest more time in possible freebies. Hopefully, it will pay off on future trips.

Friday afternoon I met with the girl from Sunday and one of her girlfriends, Svetlana. She was short, with blonde hair, average face and body, but big, fake tits.

Services: DFK, BBBJ, rimming, anal, lesbian, swallow, golden rain

Damage: 250 USD for 2 hours

Value: Excellent

Friday evening I once again met with yesterday's possible freebie. After dinner we went to Avalon around midnight. Entrance was free for women, 150 UAH for me. We went upstairs to the night club (there's also a restaurant and lounge on the ground floor). The night club was only half full with "reserved" signs on all tables, so we went to the bar upstairs to get a drink. I really enjoyed the two very hot dancers above the dance floor.

Even though I was busy trying to seal the deal with the freebie, I also tried to spot the "working girls" there. Honestly, I didn't spot many. I also saw a lot of foreign guys just standing next to the bar downstairs, so this might have been a slow night. However, at 1 am the place was packed and I did see a lot of stunners.

We left Avalon around 3 am and went back to my place. I spent the rest of my stay with her, why my report ends here.

Conclusion

About 1, 100 USD spent on 7 P4P's, including 2 threesomes. Most of the sessions were 2 hours. Only two sessions were all nights, which I prefer. However, I'm quite satisfied with the result of this trip.

When I first started coming to Kiev I was very worried about overpaying (and I did, of course), but now it's only secondary to me. Of course I don't wish to pay horrible prices, and I still believe it's very important to negotiate very hard with the girls, but as long as I get the services and results I expect I don't mind paying 800-1, 000 UAH (100-125 USD) for a couple of hours or 1, 500-2, 000 UAH (190-250 USD) for a night. Some services cost extra, and that's the same all over the world.

I'm from Denmark in Scandinavia (Europe), a country filled with beautiful women. In general, I think most men can agree to that Scandinavian girls (from Sweden, Norway and Denmark) are some of the most beautiful girls in the world, at least if you like blonde girls. However, P4P is a different matter here, just like Sorbonne wrote earlier today. In fact, the P4P scene is practically non-existing here. Brothels, escort service (also from brothels) and freebies are the only options. Prices in Danish brothels are horrible. Normal price is between 275-370 USD for CBJ and classic only. Per hour! Furthermore, prices for taxi, going to restaurants and shopping are equally high.

I guess that's why I love Kiev so much and why I don't mind paying 100-125 USD for 2 hours with a beautiful Ukrainian girl. This is just to give some perspective on prices and not as an excuse to pay whatever I want. With time it's my plan to hook up with freebies and only use P4P for the sake of variety. I'm not quite there yet, but working on it.

Mellow

Restaurants and clubs visited:

- Restaurant Khinkali. Georgian food. Mid-range. I went here three times during my trip. I can recommend this place.

- O'Briens Irish Pub. "Traditional" Irish pub with live music every night. Mid-range. Highly recommended.

- "Puzata Hata", Ukrainian self-service restaurant in the Kiev Passage. Very cheap. Nothing fancy, but good enough to get you full.

- Café Etno. Spanish tapas food restaurant. Mid-range. Mediocre food.

- Restaurant "Swing". Restaurant with live jazz music. Mid-range. Recommendable, if you like jazz.

- Avalon night club.

- "Grill Asia" Restaurant, located in the Hyatt Regency Hotel. Fusion food. Expensive. Recommended.

Mellow,

Sorry this post is so late! Thanks for 2 great reports. Sounds like your trip was very fruitful and bountiful! From the fotos, some very nice pulls. I see your prep and work before arrival paid off handsomely. Glad to see those Shota Rostevelli apartment fotos. Hope the jacuzzi worked out well. I hope to be just as successful for a few nights late next week depsite the cold weather changes. More layers of clothing to remove! Love to unwrap nice hot little gifts!

Hunter

[Irish Lad]

Congratulations AsianChaos,

You came, you conquered, you came.

Perfect approach to the Ukrainain market. It's all about fun and for Ukrainian girls it's how you spend money that counts and you did it well.

So much more interesting reading reports like yours rather than "where can I get laid for $50?".

For the money you spent you had fun, a long term contact (valuable for the infrequent visitor) and some more "once in a lifetime" experiences.

I'm a fan

[Billy Elliot]

I have a gf in kyiv, so she had the number and sorted out the taxi for me, I can get the company name and number from her when I am there this time for you guys (I can also ask if they speak english). It seems like paying around $20-$25 is ok from the airport to downtown to be honest for a normal guy on his own, but anything over $25 you are really being ripped off as I did the first time I ever went there.

Meant (links to Taxi cos)

[Climaxnow]

Maybe the tone of my posts can be somewhat confrontational, but they do serve to make simple points.

Flash is very low on the mongering food chain. If your looking for prostitutes, all you need is cash. If your looking for girlfriends, all you need is a few simple tools that present yourself as a descent human being. My belief, that as a foreigner, you should stay low key.

I too enjoyed your posts A.C.. Keep um coming.

[CallSign Papa]

You just don't get decent prose like this on the site everyday, savour it