Kyiv

[Curlyjoe]

Hi!

I read the board and found references to Rakuena as a good massage place, Any other ones you would recommend?

[Gentleman Travel]

Anyone know what happened to Ziggy?
Did he ever get laid?
Ziggy, we were not trying to be mean, just helpful.
It's not that difficult - just get back on the damned horse!

Ok friends, I think I need an ISG intervention. I have been here 2 weeks and just yesterday sent a girl home on the airplane that I wasted about 12 days on. A few days to not call her back to make her go through my friends to become interested. A night out in Podol with her cousin (who is a good contact, she's a VIP on those boats so will be cool to take out to Avalon since she is living here locally, so not a total loss) a sushi dinner and a hasty retreat or two after tea later and she's returned to Canada.

Good riddance. Her body was slammin but her face sucked and we weren't goin anywhere.

So I guess my problem I need help with is take out. I have always gone to salons in Tel Aviv or St Peter and like to do it that way. Having all the relevent info from PM's and mamba pro's (I have a hard time finding any semi's or freebies there, very little return) I can surely order a cost effective lady out to my apartment....

My only problem is I'm chicken. I know to send them back with 50 UAH if their pictures were p'shopped too hard. I use tineye, I know what ot do but I'm scared to have some weird woman show up in front of my apartment. She knows where I live and I have valuables here. I guess I just need someone to talk me through it. I don't feel that there are any good salons here so I'm going to have to get over my feer. I swear once I get laid (there is no rush I'm here to stay) picking up freebies should be easier since the smell of desperation will have been, even if temporarily, cleansed from my person.

[Uke Boy]

I just can't keep away from the Board.
Uke Boy. Where do you go to have your Hair Cut In Kiev?
Talking aabout Obsession.

Jojo, sometimes it really is a pity you can't stay away from the forum

As for the haircut, I also travel with some frequency - and get it cut in London, New York and elsewhere. The price is higher but the quality is also much higher.

Right now I am at a resort on the Red Sea with a friend - she is my obsession and will remain that until Sunday and then maybe I will get a new obsession but I promise, Jojo, it won't be you

[Jojosun]

Well that is stimulating thinking!
I have googled "Universal Copulation Constant" and "Shadow Price Of Pussy" in search for references, but found nothing.
Do you have any further references on this ?
Kind regards;

B.B.

Here is the link to the Author Nick STORR ,writing under pseudonym.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Times-Price-.../dp/0754109607

This lively interesting discussion can be attributed to this British Lady.

www.Escortkarin.Co.Uk.

Who kindly answered my question re above, with a Typical British Modesty.. The research can be attributed to my cousin, who got a copy through the Local Library.

Anyone here heading to Sheffield, UK, will have an interesting discussion + I am sure good sex with a Mrs Robinson type of Looks.

I know I will when I get the chance, breaking the limit on the Age group that I go for 18/24.

[Zarsoul]

The only thing that I can think of in Kiev that is more or less Fixed, is the take out price of the Super girls in Rio Strip Club. US$ 300 for Few Hours.

My Kiev port of call for fantastic private dances.

Never tried the Take out, although when I visited a lot of the girls were Worth It.

Money & time issue for me. I have to wait until they finish work.

Hey guys, I keep in high consideration your opinions about strippers and professionals, but is there anybody out there interested in winging to D-lux or other clubs for good old pick-ups?

I am in Kiev working several days per month and I am looking for someone with good energy and willing to invest time in-the-field. Of course it is harder, but has never been impossible

By the way Jojosun is right, a good 50% of the girls in Rio are stunning!

If someone 25-40 year old is club-oriented, then he can write me at: [Email address deleted by Admin]

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[Jojosun]

Amusing, and possibly true. Are we talking about the price of a man's hair cut at a top salon, or a woman's cut & style? Maybe that is where River Palace and Night Flight prices come from?

An interesting and potentially relevant sidebar. On a recent mongering trip to Haiti, almost the only commercial service I saw operating in devastating areas were hair salons. You could drive a 1/2 hour without seeing a gas station or grocery store, but it always seemed there was a sign for a hair salon or beauty parlour. This in a country where people are desperately poor and always have been! Maybe they were all cover for brothels, multipling the price list by 10?

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I just can't keep away from the Board.

In London I go to Unisex Salons, and the prices I quoted were for Men's Hair Cuts.

I think we should keep this Dicussion a bit low keyed, because I know that there are some girls & their Pimps lurking here.

So if you Notice a Sudden Hike in Mens hair Cutting Prices in Kiev, you should Know Why.

Uke Boy. Where do you go to have your Hair Cut In Kiev?

Talking aabout Obsession.

[Gentleman Travel]

IF I were to you, I wait until I get to Kiev & Have your Hair Cut in A top Hair Dressing Salon.

The price they charge you for the Hair Cut is your Guide, as How Much to Pay for a Good Lay..

You need to Multiply this X 10 & Bingo =. You got The Answer.

And if you think I am just Kidding you, just read on.

Two things in Life have proved to be invariably true, the price of an ounce of gold has been always been the price of a good suite more or less, and the (Price Of a Good Fuck) is always (Ten Times) the Price of a Hair cut.

Amusing, and possibly true. Are we talking about the price of a man's hair cut at a top salon, or a woman's cut & style? Maybe that is where River Palace and Night Flight prices come from?

An interesting and potentially relevant sidebar - on a recent mongering trip to Haiti, almost the only commercial service I saw operating in devastating areas were hair salons. You could drive a 1/2 hour without seeing a gas station or grocery store, but it always seemed there was a sign for a hair salon or beauty parlour. This in a country where people are desperately poor and always have been! Maybe they were all cover for brothels, multipling the price list by 10?

[Jojosun]

LOL!

That is a so true never looked at it that way. When I come to think about pricing now. Maybe this should be a new chapter in Freakanomics. They always have weird co-relation to things.

I will be there for work but I get a weekend so I can sleep in.

The only thing that I can think of in Kiev that is more or less Fixed, is the take out price of the Super girls in Rio Strip Club. US$ 300 for Few Hours.

My Kiev port of call for fantastic private dances.

Never tried the Take out, although when I visited a lot of the girls were Worth It.

Money & time issue for me. I have to wait until they finish work

. This club should be on your Schedule as well.

In the same league as Baccara GO GO in Bangkok.

Their prices are 4000 BHT for few hours + 600 Bar Fine.

GIA, escorts in Kiev are reliable but expensive. Have a look at their site.

You can Take a girl on a Dinner date to one of the Clubs. Better than spending it on a Body Guard.

Then you have your Cake & eat it as Well.

[Jojosun]

Well that is stimulating thinking!

I have googled "Universal Copulation Constant" and "Shadow Price Of Pussy" in search for references, but found nothing.

Do you have any further references on this?

Kind regards;

B. B.

Apologies for the typing muddle in the first line in my post.

This was posted by a Female member on a Very well known (Uk Punting Site). I don't think it is Kosher to Post the link here

I will ask her though for the name of the Publication & let you know.

I am certainly no Archimedes, The greatest Mathematician of his age who anitipated the integral Calculus. But I agree with you that is Stimulating Thinking, so much so, that I did few Comparisons on Prices between A Hair Cut V Mongering In what I consider at this time, The Mother of All Mongering Cities in the World, London.

And here are my Findings.

1. The cheapest Hair Cut In London is £6. The Cheapest Decent Full Sex for one hour is £60, as advertised on adult w.

Well that is exactly 10 times the price of a Hair Cut.

2. The going prices for good hair cuts are between £12 to £15.

The going prices for a really good sex for one hour In London, is in the price range £120 to £ 150 an Hour. The only extra is Anal. This is priced at £ 40.

That is exactly 10 times the price I pay for my Hair cuts.

But then again I do get it cheaper by doing a lot of research costing me a lot of arm & leg work + money.

But I am not such a Cheap Charlie to go for the option of, Cutting My Own Hair.

Cheers.

As an After Thought. Archimides also invented, The Archimidean Screw Pumping Device. As well.

Cheers

[Bimbo Boy]

IF I were to you, I wait until I get to Kiev & Have your Hair Cut in A top Hair Dressing Salon.
The price they charge you for the Hair Cut is your Guide, as How Much to Pay for a Good Lay..
You need to Multiply this X 10 & Bingo =. You got The Answer.
And if you think I am just Kidding you, just read on.
Two things in Life have proved to be invariably true, the price of an ounce of gold has been always been the price of a good suite more or less, and the (Price Of a Good Fuck) is always (Ten Times) the Price of a Hair cut.
This goes back to Roman, Greek and even Egyptian times.
This Truth is known as the unviversal Copulation Constant, or if you happen to be an Economist The Shadow Price Of Pussy.
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Well that is stimulating thinking!
I have googled "Universal Copulation Constant" and "Shadow Price Of Pussy" in search for references, but found nothing.
Do you have any further references on this ?
Kind regards;
B.B.

[AsianChaos]

IF I were to you, I wait until I get to Kiev & Have your Hair Cut in A top Hair Dressing Salon.

The price they charge you for the Hair Cut is your Guide, as How Much to Pay for a Good Lay..


Slighly off topic here. The above pricing system wouldn't apply to Members who cut their own Hair, as they are technically called Wankers.

LOL!

That is a so true never looked at it that way....when I come to think about pricing now. Maybe this should be a new chapter in Freakanomics. They always have weird co-relation to things.

I will be there for work but I get a weekend so i can sleep in.

[Jojosun]

So if the standard for the hour is anywhere between US$80 to US$300 what do they charge for the whole night?

IF I were to you, I wait until I get to Kiev & Have your Hair Cut in A top Hair Dressing Salon.

The price they charge you for the Hair Cut is your Guide, as How Much to Pay for a Good Lay..

You need to Multiply this X 10 & Bingo =. You got The Answer.

And if you think I am just Kidding you, just read on.

Two things in Life have proved to be invariably true, the price of an ounce of gold has been always been the price of a good suite more or less, and the (Price Of a Good Fuck) is always (Ten Times) the Price of a Hair cut.

This goes back to Roman, Greek and even Egyptian times.

This Truth is known as the unviversal Copulation Constant, or if you happen to be an Economist The Shadow Price Of Pussy.

The above is an exerpt from a Publication by a travel writer who frequently indulged in P4p, and was Quoted by an escort.

All night prices are worked differently from Hourly rates, and I am the wrong person to guide you here, because I value my 8 hours sleep. More than spending it in the sack.

Anyway I thought you said you are going to Kiev for Work?

All night shagging ain't eaxactly Work, Or is it?

Slighly off topic here. The above pricing system wouldn't apply to Members who cut their own Hair, as they are technically called Wankers.

[AsianChaos]

Here is the Link to their office in Kiev.

http://www.Visitkiev. Biz/nightlife.htm.


The thing is Prices & opening offers IN Kiev Clubs are not set in stone.

Without you telling us, how long do you want the girl to stay?

All Night, couple of hours, One hour? /.

The prices posted here for Girls coming to your apartment is inthe range of US$ 80 to US $150. Varing from one hour to 2 Hours.

So this should help you working out the Prices for girls In Clubs

IF you read on here the opening prices for hot girls in top clubs, seem to be in the range of US$ 300.

Although a really Hot, Hot girl once told me in River Palace Club, it was US$400.. She said it without any hesitation& with a lovely Smile and a sexy Wink. I just replied with a blank look & with a similar wink, because You are Worth It.

So if the standard for the hour is anywhere between US$80 to US$300 what do they charge for the whole night?

[Gergiev]

I for one believed Tony B at the time.

Aw Jojo, please say it ain't so.

Please, please, please...

[Jojosun]

Thanks Jojosun, for the detailed information.

When you say the companies can provide VIP welcome at the clubs - do you have a website or do you have contact details?


.Thanks.

Apparantly, they organize VIP service at all top Clubs.

Your Own reserved Table & your Own waitress.

http://www.Visitkiev. Biz/stag_weekends.htm

Ukraine connections. Co. Uk. Their Uk Branch do have positive feedback posted on their site.

But the Proof Of the Pudding is in the Eating. You might get to Eat that Pudding. And if you do, Keep your fellow Members here informed.

IT does seem a better option than Spending Money on a Body Guard.

No Mocking Intended.

Your own waitress can double up as Your body guard in the Club & bed partner Later Own.

If the Price is Right..